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Have you tried a slower type 2 (7kwh) ? Or if you’ve only been trying those, try a CCS fast charger? 

otherwise I’m afraid back to your dealer - ideally before your Battery runs out…

31 minutes ago, GSLV6 said:

I think it had the updates you describe but the cost of a new model is more than I can justify, another reason for looking at an RX4, pre touch screen model....or was until I read about security vulnerabilities...

There are nearly new examples of the RZ on Autotrader from just under £43k - including from Lexus dealers. The depreciation on them is ridiculous, at these (nearly new, very discounted) prices they are much more reasonable! 

8 minutes ago, DavidCM said:

I've only ever seen one Genesis in the flesh....on the back of a breakdown truck.I believe they are a gussied up Hyundai...In the same way Lexus and Toyota operate.

Spot on, they are indeed a posh Hyundai. 

15 hours ago, RXtoNX said:

Unless things have changed in the past month map updates currently can only be done by the dealer. 
They are FOC but it means that the dealer will need your car for 2 hours. Had ours done 2 months ago & dealer provided us with a courtesy car for the day.

There are instructions on the Lexus website detailing how to do it yourself… but I couldn’t get it to work either (you need a license code for the new update, and the part code showing was invalid according to the Lexus system!). 

On 4/30/2024 at 6:29 PM, stepheneric said:

Are not Lexus also owned by Toyota??

Yes, Lexus is Toyota’s premium brand.

The point I was making is that the Jemca dealerships are ultimately owned by Toyota. Most dealership groups are normally entirely independent and not owned by the car manufacturer (e.g. Steven Eagell also mentioned are entirely independent).

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Car_dealership

4 hours ago, wharfhouse said:

That's disappointing to hear. I've arranged my previous Extended Warranties and the the 10 Year Plus Extended Warranties through Lexus Reading (Jemca - they have a number of dealerships in the south-east) and they have alway been on the ball - even contacting me the last time to see if I wanted to renew. Maybe worth a call to them (assuming you haven't already)? Maybe others who have this will chime in if they have arranged it through dealers closer to you. 

Jemca are owned by Toyota themselves - so not surprised they are clued up! 

9 hours ago, Sundance said:

Ahem ...

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Insurers are getting around this by making minor changes to policies - thus arguing the cover isn’t equivalent and so the pricing doesn’t need to be the same. 

6 hours ago, Brian R said:

Just thought I would ask whether anyone has had any related contact with/from their dealer? I, too, was supposed to hear from mine around now, and perhaps during the course of next week I may well give mine a prod unless others might be aware of any change to the Lexus scheduling.

Lexus changed their public update from “April” to “coming weeks” - suggesting a delay… 

6 hours ago, RONNIE W HODGEKINSON said:

Okay Bill.. Lexus cars Have a higher Risk of being Stolen But ALL cars Are at Risk But does that Give them Licence to Hugely Increase Everybody who Owns a Lexus .Its just another Excusal SCAM To Rip people off And its down to one thing ONLY Pure Unadulterated GREED..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lexus were the most stolen car brand in UK 2023. More than 2% of all Lexus cars on the road were stolen.

It’s entirely understandable that insurers will therefore decline to cover them, reducing competition, and both the higher risk and less competition inevitably feeds through to higher prices for consumers.

It’s not a scam - it’s the market working exactly as you’d expect. Overall, insurers were predicted to lose money in 2022 and 2023, and plenty lost rather a lot. https://www.ft.com/content/5dca87fb-1e03-4309-8a4a-01dee4fe4748

2 hours ago, Mincey said:

A scruffy lot. I really abhor this American trend of not wearing ties. I used to work for a large US multi-national Engineering firm and was always appalled when the awful CEO would do a broadcast sans tie.

No-one wears a tie anymore. Except perhaps lawyers in court!

The RX500h should support Android Auto - however, at this time, it’s not wireless and you need to connect via a usb cable. Note that only one of your usb sockets in the car connects data to your screen (the rest are for charging only), so you also need to ensure the right cable is connected to the right usb port.

3 minutes ago, Xez said:

You are correct that purchase incentives have been removed from BEV/PHEV vehicles. Dealers are still able to offer discount and pass on their manufacturer rebates to offer improved prices when it suits them as they approach their sales targets. Lexus still operates a dealer rather than agency structure, thus dealers can, and do, compete for business.

With regard to your point about the opaqueness of lease/PCP deals I would expect that the deposit and underlying interest rate charged within the calculation must be shown before committing to the deal. However as you say on a simple headline table as you provided it is quite possible that there are differences hidden beneath the surface.

The other factor now is the ZEV mandate. Manufacturers, and thus dealers, need to ensure 22% of their vehicles sold in the UK this year have an EV certificate credit. They can get a certificate by selling an EV, borrowing against a future year, buying certificates from other manufacturers (e.g. Tesla)… or earn partial credits by reducing their fleet emissions (as it’s the government, there’s of course a complex formula to work that out). This latter point helps PHEVs as their emissions are a quarter or less of a typical car now - so more incentives to sell PHEVs can be expected, just as manufacturers (including Lexus) are now offering ridiculous discounts on new EVs.

Every certificate (car) short of the 22% will cost the manufacturer £15k per vehicle - so there’s big money on the line. Much better to e.g. give a £8k PCP deposit contribution (as Honda have for their EV) or other discounts on PHEVs, than pay a £15k penalty later!

1 hour ago, CT200NI said:

 

More power to the people driving around in the fruits of their labour. And anyway, it's a small group of 'those 1% people' who pay for I think the bottom 20% of income earners NHS and other things, doesn't 40p of every £1 they earn get taken, just like that?! Personally, I think there's a case that that's unfair..   

 

We passed a tipping point a few years ago - the majority of the UK population now get more from the government in public expenditure and tax credits / benefits than they put in. A smaller and smaller top slice of the population are paying for nearly everything. The top 10% of earners pay more than 50% of all income tax. The top 1% pay 28%.

And 40p? Top rate of tax is 45p plus 2p national insurance - meaning 47% of every £1 earned disappears. And if you’re lucky / unlucky enough to earn between £100k and £125k, your marginal tax rate is *60%*. 

It’s a small miracle anyone still works hard and pays taxes. 

I am however very grateful for anyone who buys a new car - as without those purchases, there’d never be any used cars for everyone else to benefit from…

2 hours ago, IGR said:

 

Comparing FWD vs AWD models on the Lexus website shows that FWD is cheaper to buy, has better MPG, lower emissions therefore lower VED and less weight whereas AWD has better acceleration.

 

Thanks

Just note that only the first year (at time of registration) VED is cheaper - since April 2017 VED rates aren’t based on co2. It’s a fixed annual fee, and in the NXs case, as models are above £40k you’ll be paying the luxury rate - approx £600 per year. 

personally the savings with FWD are minuscule in the overall picture of purchase and running costs. 

4 hours ago, John Adams said:

Bob, how did you book this. I was thinking of doing it for a longish trip in September but my dealer hasn't a clue. Did you just email Lexus Reserve?

It’s detailed in the T&Cs:

https://www.lexus.co.uk/content/dam/lexus/nmsc/united-kingdom/cross-model/Lexus-Reserve-TandCs-2.pdf

3.1 You must book your Reserve Days by emailing lexusreserve@lexus.co.uk.

Lexus NX cars in the USA are manufactured in North America. We get our NX from Japan, so it may be we’re not impacted. 

2 hours ago, Malc1 said:

Kia I’m understanding some years ago had a poor reliability record necessitating an extraordinary 7 year warranty 

Fact is now I believe that the 7 year warranty is rarely needed by buyers ……. Indeed I have pushed my senior guy in Delhi to have his company 7 seater petrol SUV ……. Kia …… for reliability, cost, prestige even  etc 

 

Some owners are having to make considerable use of the warranty - Google “kia mild hybrid tensioner” - due to an engine that seems to have a reoccurring and very expensive fault. Sadly many vehicles have been off the roads for several months waiting for the parts as well. It hasn’t been a positive experience for them.

3 hours ago, Ken R said:

Whilst I align with your sentiments regarding MG I don't agree that Hyundai/Kia are "AWFUL". Ten years ago that may have been the case but the range of cars that they produce today are at the cutting edge in terms of design and recognised as such by the car buying public who are seeking  above all, reliability and value for money. I have driven various Kia models from the Picanto to the EV6 and have been impressed by the quality. Indeed I came close to purchasing a EV6 to replace my Lexus NX300h two years ago but range issues eventually overtook my enthusiasm for what I considered to be a superb car that was almost on par with Lexus in terms of build quality.

Excepting the engine issue, I would tend to agree with this… except probably not the Picanto. I drove one when my partner was looking for a small car… absolutely awful thing and engine. Only thing worse was probably the Honda Jazz. Went for a 2 year old Yaris in the end…  The rest of the Kia range seems pretty good though from what I’ve experienced. 

Kia have also shown that they can build good EVs - and we have to be honest that the EV6 is a much more realistic EV proposition (with a real world range of 300 ish miles) than the Lexus UXe and RZ with their very limited ranges (170-200ish).

Lexus changed the wording in their notice from “April” to “coming weeks”, suggesting an extended wait and longer timeline than originally envisaged. Until the post says a solution is available, and dealerships actually have something to update/install on vehicles affected, the answer to this thread is quite simple: zero and no-one.

https://mag.lexus.co.uk/lexus-uk-statement-on-vehicle-theft/?

19 minutes ago, dts439 said:

Thanks, will give it a go - not played with HV/EV for some time.  As you say it always seems to use EV at very low speed if it can.  Never quite got why it needs 2 separate buttons for HV/EV and Auto HV/EV.

It’s because there are quite a few options…

HV - hybrid, will fall into Ev as appropriate

Auto EV/HV - will switch between Ev and hybrid mode

EV only - will stick in EV mode as much as possible 

CRG - you hold the button down to select this - forces petrol engine to run and uses petrol to charge the Battery

I think there’s at least one more mode I’m forgetting, but I’m sure this is all in the manual somewhere.

1 hour ago, wivenhoe said:

Just checked. It now says the 42 days is limited to 2 weeks a year - so how am I to use the 42 days they have said I get but over 2 years ?  They really can’t much right can they. 

That was always on some of the marketing. But it’s not included in the terms and conditions - and those are what is important. 

1 hour ago, wivenhoe said:

I had 2 Merc, a BMW & a Range Rover PHEV’s - I wished I stuck with them. My last car was a Range Rover Velar (0 - 60 6s) averaged 90mpg with me plugging in it regularly and mostly local driving. I would have swapped my RZ for a RX 450h except they offered me £ 48k for a 6 month old car that cost £ 73k. Oh well. 

Huge depreciation but £48k also seems generous, as there’s regularly been nearly new RZ Takumi’s on sale for under £50k on AutoTrader for the last few months.

On 4/16/2024 at 7:20 PM, PaulWhitt20 said:

 

Would my next car be an EV? Probably not unless you could guarantee charging at your destination. At the moment I think the best option is the plug in Hybrid if you can keep hold of it.

Or could Lexus Reserve come to the rescue for planned trips?

This is the main reason I went PHEV. All my local journeys are done on the Battery, but the petrol tank is also good for 500 miles or so when I need it. 

Our second car might be an EV when more affordable options are available, otherwise a small hybrid hatchback and a SUV PHEV seems a sensible balance for now!

40 minutes ago, UX250h said:

Just wondering...

Has anyone managed to get cheaper insurance due to 

1) The lexus app being able to track the vehicle location

2) Use of a steering wheel lock

 

 

No & no. The app doesn’t meet the requirements of a tracker for insurance purposes - it can be disabled easily if someone gets into your vehicle. Many insurers don’t even reduce premiums for thatcham rated trackers. 

use of a steering lock is sometimes a condition of insurance, rather than a way to reduce premium. 

1 hour ago, Silvabane said:

 

I feel like some sort of government intervention is needed. Read online an 18 year old will pay on average over £3000 for a small city car in certain places..

It’s an intervention from Lexus you need!

https://mag.lexus.co.uk/lexus-uk-statement-on-vehicle-theft/?fbclid=IwAR2u1DC_0mAo4_kSpK_1FLViLNyHJq0nAKctwfXCMxQi1CwuNiGBA10yY0w_aem_ATXzc0mSafM1xX72JZyfSo-7KpoTKXtkPQjmf6ToRhjQ_4GsDaGMH6Nf5ACoFWEW2pE

Lexus were the most stolen car brand (as a percentage of vehicles on the road) in 2023. Lots of insurers thus refusing to cover any Lexus vehicle at all, or, charging a small fortune… 

38 minutes ago, Simon Gibbs said:

@Paul29bit Thanks. I went for the ex demo Sonic Platinum sport at Lexus Cheltenham. 73 plate with extremely low miles. I have been thinking about it for a while and hearing they were coming to an end in the UK decided now or never. 

You will need to share photos please when you have her!