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John noted his quote came via a comparison site.

Insure the Box have been around a while, at least since 2020. interestingly, their policies are also underwritten by Aioi Nissay Dowa Insurance UK Ltd, the same company Toyota are a large shareholder in. Which given the connection to Lexus & Toyota insurance that they also underwrite, perhaps explains why they have the car in their lists already.

As am I. Also interesting to see the difference (or not) a heat pump made for the ID.7!

Not familiar with the IS specifically, but on the more recent cars this is a configurable option. Worth checking the manual to see if you’ve got the option turned off?

I managed to solve the problem of data being off… I did have to remove, reset, and re-add my profile twice. No idea why it seems to have worked after the second attempt… but it just has! By re-adding my profile, all my settings seem to have been re-downloaded correctly, just had to re-pair my iPhone.

I have the same issue and error in my NX - but a 2021 dated map! I use CarPlay so haven’t yet raised with dealer to fix… curious how you / others get on!

NFU Mutual may be worth a call - they still have their own underwriters and very friendly whenever I’ve called. otherwise, you may want to run a quote for a similar insurance group car. My NX is also extortionate to insure in London - but an equivalent Audi PHEV was almost identical in price. I know you have the canbus issue in your RX, but, with less NCB and a theft claim, I suspect your quotes for other similar cars may be similarly expensive…

Not just the reviews, but Lexus themselves! https://www.lexus.eu/new-cars/lbx-world-premiere/performance-and-powertrain “The LBX’s luxury status is witnessed by the lengths Lexus has gone to manage noise and vibration (NVH). These include adding a balancer shaft to the engine to reduce vibration that can generate a booming effect in the cabin”

What’s your source for that please? The discussions in the Yaris forums (my partner has a Yaris) on this topic are all about whether the 130 variant engine coming to the Yaris and Yaris Cross will also include a balancing shaft like the LBX, because the current 115 engine in those cars doesn’t have one…

The NX is a two tonne SUV, hybrid or not. An SUV was never the right purchase if your priority was conserving fuel. My last two cars were diesel saloons. I moved to an SUV very aware my fuel consumption would increase significantly, and it has!

Yes, Lexus Coventry is part of “Listers”.

Given Lexus (as a percentage of their cars) are the number 1 stolen car brand in the UK in 2023, overtaking JLR, I don’t think it’s unreasonable for anyone to suggest Lexus ought to take some action. JLR are spending £15m retrofitting upgrades to their Land Rovers and other cars… dating back to cars from 2016! They are owning the issue, and are even subsidising insurance costs given that some of their cars essentially became uninsurable (plenty reports in these forums of very high prices or insurers refusing to renew and drop cover for Lexus models). Whereas Lexus have introduced a protection plate, that doesn’t actually solve the issue, and is only available on one of the vulnerable models. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13060215/Britain-stolen-cars-Interactive-graphic-targeted-thieves-list-Lexus-RX-Range-Rover.html#

The newer current-gen NX (like the new RX) have an encrypted canbus, that isn’t vulnerable to the current injection theft. It’s not just about the location of wiring but how messages on the canbus are treated.

To be clear - you are financing the whole cost of the car on PCP as well, and you will pay interest on the balloon payment for the entirety of the PCP agreement (2-4 years typically). While you are right that the aim is to pay the car’s depreciation for the period you have it, the interest costs on the balloon payment can be quite large - and you’ve no ability to pay that down during a PCP. Whereas with a traditional hire purchase, you’re financing and paying off the entire amount over the term.

Assuming your monthly payments aren’t tiny, you should close that gap between the value of the car and your finance settlement as you’ll still be making monthly payments between now and July/August. Although it sounds like you may have overpaid and/or have a really high interest rate - in which case refinancing to save interest between now and then may be worthwhile (depending on your circumstances & exact loan situation).

More detail here on what JLR are doing to try and fix theft and insurance issues for Land Rovers… https://www.fleetnews.co.uk/news/jlr-takes-action-to-stem-range-rover-thefts seems to suggest they similarly have a number of canbus vulnerabilities, but are proactively fixing cars going back to 2016!!

The Daily Mail now have an excellent article, using DVLA data to rank cars with the number stolen vs the numbers registered. Ie in percentage terms, rather than just the highest numbers. The Lexus RX is number 1 on the list, with *1 in 46* of all those registered stolen last year! https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13060215/Britain-stolen-cars-Interactive-graphic-targeted-thieves-list-Lexus-RX-Range-Rover.html#:~:text=According to MailOnline analysis of,SORN) being nabbed by thieves.?utm_source=LexusOwnersClubUK&utm_medium=ForumLinks

For the luxury car tax list price, it excludes the first year tax and first registration fee (£55). Thus a car at £40,300 can still fall under depending on the co2 rating and initial tax rate. Lexus are aware of this as the ES starting price has been £39,995 and now £40,000 for quite some time… despite list prices on other Lexus models going up hundreds or thousands of pounds in the same time period.

Yes, now available both Yaris and Yaris Cross (not entirely clear if it’s identical, but, there is a new 130 engine for those cars in top trims). Won’t be in any existing cars, but, it’s an evolution of the 115 (which I know drives very nicely).

Long story short - the 12v battery is tiny. Turn the car on if you’re going to be working in it for anything more than a minute or two.

Yes, it’s 10 years / 100k miles. I guess it depends on your definition of “significant “ and what the price premium is for a newer, lower mileage model…

There doesn’t appear to be a “Lexus premium” for my car insurance. It’s a huge amount of money (that’s mostly my fault for being in London), but quotes for comparable plug-in SUVs are comparable- those in slightly lower insurance groups are fractionally less, those in higher groups are fractionally more (e.g. Audi Q5). Just as you’d expect.

Insurers have been quite happy to stop insuring Land Rovers which have a bigger market share than these Lexus. They lose money by insuring a vehicle and then having to pay out its full value due to theft. Far better to simply not cover it - and given the Lexus market share vs number of cars out there, it’s not even a rounding error.

It is indeed a game of cat and mouse. But Lexus/Toyota seem to have given up, effectively leaving whole generations of cars easily stolen. Whereas JLR are spending £10m to retrofit older vehicles with better security.

I would similarly have issues about paying more for less! The cheapest car is almost always the one you own already - with the potential for a Relax warranty until 10 years / 100k miles, is there any reason to change? If you’re looking at other brands, have you considered the Toyota Yaris Cross? It’s due a small facelift/refresh (already out for Yaris) and could be a good and much cheaper option in top spec trim…. https://www.toyota.co.uk/new-cars/yaris-cross/premiere-edition