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Actually test drove it back in 21. Pretty decent, not as quiet iirc, lane keep is last gen bouncing from line to line, no lane centering. Better infotainment control though with the rotary wheel. High spec has good quality cabin. Ingress egress, I'm big, not as easy.

Also, I'm not feeling particularly generous towards Lexus/Toyota. The A$$holes won't acknowledge, let alone fix, a major design flaw that means your car is basically unlocked all the time and they expect I'll buy another of their products. The Ghost will prevent them driving away with your car, but it won't prevent them getting in.

Test drove the model 3. Before they completely got rid of the signal stalk, having the speedo outside of your line of sight is annoying, wind noise and uncomfortable seat. Now the signals are on the steering wheel as buttons in the new update (btw not even on opposite sides, on one side, one on top of the other). What were they thinking??!! Although the reviews seem to suggest they have improved insulation, noise and fit and finish. Not sure how I feel about it being built in China. Between them and tesla, quality control is a big question mark. Will probably give it another test drive, just to be thorough.

Mustang mach e, I know yet another SUV. I wouldn't trust a VAG TSI motor after all the timing chain and then belt issues crapping the bed just out of warranty. Honda civic, economical hybrid but prices are insane. Same price as the ES, and an ES it is not. Honda CRV, expensive, noisy in comparison. All the VW IDs. Horrendous driver controls. Genesis and hyundai ionic 5, very swiftly stolen. They don't even need to pull the wheel lining. Done by remote. Mazda cx60, another suv. Merc EQE. Uncomfortable seats in base trim, expensive, poor visibility. Merc EQC, cramped shoulder room compared to ES. VOLVO S90, V90?

No idea on specifics, but yes battery drain seems to come up as well as non start. Lexus response now is, no we don't have a recommended 2nd immobiliser, even though they used to mention getting a ghost installed.

Your installer is correct, there are problems. Lexus have also been made aware, so I'm waiting for what other nonsense they're going to spout as a solution. The question they've been asked, do you have a recommended second immobiliser and more importantly an authorised installer that will not invalidate the warranty? I.e. if problems arise from this will you fix it under warranty?

Yup that's not going to cause any problems at all.

Sorry missed the above link. Even the ADL (anti defamation league) refused labelling HRW, Amnesty and Oxfam as antisemitic. “We strongly believe that these organizations are crucial to ensuring robust civil society and democratic protections worldwide,” the ADL said, while acknowledging there was “significant disagreement” between it and the three groups on Israel policy. The ADL said calling the groups anti-Semitic “is neither accurate nor helpful to the fight against anti-Semitism.” https://www.timesofisrael.com/adl-slams-us-effort-to-declare-rights-groups-anti-semitic/

Specific Crimes Genocide Coined in 1944 by legal scholar Raphael Lemkin, ‘genocide’ is a term with both sociological and legal meaning. As Lemkin explained, the term [genocide] does not necessarily signify mass killings. More often…the end may be accomplished by the forced disintegration of political and social institutions, of the culture of the people, of their language, their national feelings and their religion. It may be accomplished by wiping out all basis of personal security, liberty, health and dignity. When these means fail, the machine gun can always be utilized as a last resort. For Lemkin, the violence inflicted against the individual is secondary to the aim of the destruction of the larger group to which individuals belong.[28] Our current understanding of genocide shares a great deal with Lemkin’s interpretation: It is a special, collective type of violence enacted against a specific people. The term was defined with greater legal specificity in the Genocide Convention as acts “committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group.” These acts could include components such as “(a) Killing members of the group; (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; and (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group.”[29] This definition is mirrored in Article 6 of the Statute of the ICC, which gained jurisdiction over crimes occurring in Palestine since June 13, 2014,[30] and in the Rome Statute, to which Palestine acceded on January 2, 2015. During the 2014 Gaza War, the U.N. Special Advisers on the Prevention of Genocide issued a statement that they were “disturbed by the flagrant use of hate speech in the social media, particularly against the Palestinian population,” and that “individuals have disseminated messages that could be dehumanising to the Palestinians and have called for the killing of members of this group,” while “remind[ing] all that incitement to commit atrocity crimes is prohibited under international law.”[31] This sort of language is not isolated, either. Israeli lawmakers have publicly called for action against Palestinians that would clearly meet the definition under the 1948 Convention. In 2008, Matan Vilnai, the Deputy Defense Minister for Israel, declared that the increasing tensions in the Gaza Strip would bring on a “shoah” (or holocaust). He stated, “The more Qassam [rocket] fire intensifies and the rockets reach a longer range, they will bring upon themselves a bigger shoah because we will use all our might to defend ourselves.”[32] Israeli Justice Minister Ayelet Shaked posted a statement in June 2014 on Facebook stating that “the entire Palestinian people is the enemy” and he advocated for Palestine’s destruction “including its elderly and its women, its cities and its villages, its property and its infrastructure.” The post also called for the killing of Palestinian mothers who give birth to “little snakes.”[33] The language is shocking, and when combined with the policies enacted by the people saying things like this, it becomes clear that the actions of Israel could constitute genocide. Professor of international law Francis Boyle agrees, and he testified in 2013 that “The Palestinians have been the victims of genocide as defined by the 1948 Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide.” He went on to say that for the past 65 years, the Israeli government, and the legal systems before them, “the Zionist agencies, forces, and terrorist gangs – have ruthlessly implemented a systematic and comprehensive military, political, religious, economic, and cultural campaign with the intent to destroy in substantial part the national, ethnical, racial, and different religious group (Jews versus Muslims and Christians) constituting the Palestinian people.”[34] The repeated campaigns of violence into the Occupied Palestinian Territories (OPT), causing a civilian population to constantly live under the very real threat of airstrikes or other military action, and not allowing them to leave, seem to satisfy some of the elements of the crime as laid out. The same is true about the policies of tightly controlling food, water, electricity, and fishing – all of which warrant at least investigation by the ICC. https://worldwithoutgenocide.org/genocides-and-conflicts/israel-palestine-conflict-history-causes-and-international-law#_ftn34 and today we see south Africa arguing the same in the Haugue https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-south-africa-genocide-hate-speech-97a9e4a84a3a6bebeddfb80f8a030724 I also see you ignore this bit: I'm guessing then this is acceptable? Neither side are angels, and Bluemarlin again hit it on the head.

Sadly, your belief can be too easily shown to be misguided. I wish it weren't. I prefer a one state solution where the two democratically figure it out and leave the rest of the world out of it, but: "Palestinian citizens of Israel, who comprise about 19% of the population, face many forms of institutionalized discrimination. In 2018, discrimination against Palestinians was crystallized in a constitutional law which, for the first time, enshrined Israel exclusively as the “nation state of the Jewish people”." https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/02/israels-apartheid-against-palestinians-a-cruel-system-of-domination-and-a-crime-against-humanity/ You don't believe amnesty international. How about Human Rights Watch describing the same: https://www.hrw.org/report/2021/04/27/threshold-crossed/israeli-authorities-and-crimes-apartheid-and-persecution FYI your citizenship and nationality are not the same in Israel. You are a Citizen of Israel with a Jewish, Arab, Druze...etc. nationality (from Israeli center for Democracy). Several prominent Israelis—including a former Education Minister, a former Knesset Member, a celebrated playwright, and several Arab citizens—requested that the State recognize a new category of nationality: "Israeli." This category would include all Israeli citizens, Jews and Arabs alike, rather than using the current ethnic-religious classification. In a petition to the Israeli Supreme Court, they argued that the current categorization, which focuses on ethnic-religious origin, distinguishes between Arab and Jewish citizens and thereby contributes to discrimination and to infringement of the rights of Israel's Arab citizens. https://en.idi.org.il/articles/6516 ...they failed or how about one of a plethora of discriminatory laws "The “Citizenship and Entry into Israel Law” bars family reunification for Israelis married to Palestinians from the Occupied Territories." https://www.un.org/unispal/document/auto-insert-207202/ Isn't that the equivalent of preventing a british citizen from marrying and subsequent reunification with someone from North Ireland in the UK? Is that acceptable? Also, don't forget that those who have Citizenship are only about a 1/3 of the total Palestinian population. Why not just give this "equal citizenship" to all 6 million? Here's a reasonable backgrounder from CFR: https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/what-know-about-arab-citizens-israel Also, they are allowed to join the IDF, and some do. Another bit you've been misinformed on.

Both sides are the issue. You can't fix a genocide by committing another one. But we're stuck in that cycle, and people are too dumb to learn. How's fixing the WW2 genocide by committing another one working out so far? Not so great eh.

Jordan, refugees and those that actually have settled and are no longer considered registered refugees 3 million https://www.refworld.org/docid/49749cfcc.html Lebanon 250 to 300k https://www.refworld.org/docid/49749cf0c.html Syria 500k https://www.unrwa.org/where-we-work/syria ...etc. Here's a longer list with refs on wiki https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinians Yes there is incredible misinformation out there. Bill aka blue marlin hit the nail on the head. They got fed up after the multiple forced migrations.

You're kidding, right? https://www.unrwa.org/palestine-refugees Where do Palestine refugees live? Nearly one-third of the registered Palestine refugees, more than 1.5 million individuals, live in 58 recognized Palestine refugee camps in Jordan, Lebanon, the Syrian Arab Republic, the Gaza Strip and the West Bank, including East Jerusalem.

Which dealer please?

Are you using the right USB slot? Some of them, in newer cars, are power only.

Summer tyres are basically the same consistency of hockey pucks under 7C. Traction dramatically decreases in the cold if you have summer tyres even without water ice or snow. I always opt for all season tyres.

More like "the ES is not targeted", few incidences is too much acknowledgement.

Can you turn off communication/ota updates with lexus? That seems to be a common problem with other ev marques draining their 12v.

So basically with the new system it's a nag screen that won't go away until you activate the lexus connected services, right? At least with the previous version you had the choice to use connected services or not. After reading through the terms and conditions I found them too intrusive, tracking your location, speed, cornering, acceleration, braking...etc. No thanks. See https://arstechnica.com/cars/2023/09/connected-cars-are-a-privacy-nightmare-mozilla-foundation-says/

I'm not sure they're entirely wrong on that. We live in a new build complex with garages large enough to park cars in and open your door to get out (I know shocking), and I have yet to see one household other than us who park their car in their garage.

With mirrors unfolded 206.5cm.

Tom, are your glasses by any chance tinted. I drove another car with a similar system, only way it would shut up is by taking off said tinted glasses. Some tints reflect IR. https://www.embedded.com/breaking-down-misconceptions-about-driver-monitoring-systems/

Speaking to my contact at the dealer, now they are having warranty problems arising from the secondary immobilisers they told everyone to get, as they are loom/canbus "invasive". That last word, verbatim his. It's their next headache and they fully deserve it. Instead of coming up with an in house solution, now they have to contend with a myriad of problems from non standardised installations on vehicles that are even still under their initial warranty, let alone relax.

Exactly right. Same boat. Honda e. Would like more range if getting a second ev.

To be fair, it's all electric cars. Between their over inflated prices, all the second hand ones coming off salary sacrifice schemes and no one on the second hand market willing to pay the over inflated price = crash deflation. https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/electriccars/article-12482397/Electric-cars-values-plunged-most.html