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A couple of interesting tid bits to rub it in: That car had a Honda sourced, transverse mounted, V6, the C27A If it wasn't clear from transverse mounted, the death knell (or was it dead sentence) for that car was it was FWD! Terrible handling 🤣

I see what you did there 😄 Did the commentator say at one point "I don't think the bikes would be going this fast later..."?

and you would know this how? Have you owned either? Have you driven either, other than for a, short by comparison, test drive? Have you lived with either on a daily basis? Now who's generalizing their limited "personal experience"? In my limited 7k miles experience with the car on a daily basis since last June, power delivery has always been linear with no sudden surges of power or lack thereof. But then that's my limited personal experience with the car I own. Also, fixed your double negative there. Unless you meant that they do drive like 215/300 cars.

Now there's a topic that's sure to light a few flames (tongue in cheek). https://jalopnik.com/hybrid-cars-light-on-fire-more-than-electric-and-gas-po-1848454698 the aticle https://www.autoinsuranceez.com/gas-vs-electric-car-fires/ the study Notice the table of recalled hybrids in the second link, chrysler followed by the ultimate driving machines BMW et al. Handling that truly sets your pants on fire 😉

Seriously, you think people on here are petty enough to get you banned over this thread? Just wow... it isn't, 8.9s to 62mph doesn't exactly set your pants on fire you might have that backwards, at least from my perspective

I don't think I saw anyone on this thread call you a "heretic", and in quotes no less. Are we being a bit defensive now? 😭 (insert baby waaa noise) Your arguments are a bit "erratic", and you don't carefully read, or perhaps misread what has been said. Like the whole "why don't you admit it" nonsense.

Don't cloud the issue, you said which is exactly what I said above. All cars have negatives and positives. No-one is saying it has no negative. This is one that I found that balances those in a manner that works for me. Would I like it to handle like a C6 while keeping its comfort level, and pin me back into my seat when I hit the gas pedal while giving me an american V8 burble and at the same time getting a 60+MPG return? Sure who wouldn't. That car sadly doesn't exist.

Didn't I just say as much, I literally said if I were on a track I'll take a C6, thank you?! How is that not clear? It seems you really hate the ES.

You'll notice I included two examples at 50 and 60, which are the limits most twisty roads in the UK are set at. Also see the post above from @e-yes

Yes there is when you have a 50MPH speed limit and eveyone slows down coming to a sweeping bend and you don't have to. Trying to put handling experience into a 20MPH speed limit perspective is an excercise in reductio ad absurdum. Yes I've taken it into the lake country and to single track roads that lead up there at 60MPH, and it handled predictably and competently at the speed limit, no surprises. Was it as enjoyable as a C6, no. What I'm trying to say is, we drive in the real world, not some theoretical track. For real world driving, it sets an excellent compromise between handling and comfort.

I also don't see how the ES handles poorly. At legal speed limits, it can take corners and motorway speed bends without hearing squeeling tortured tyres despite the weight. Yes I've had cars that can take a corner like they were "on tracks", but none that could do it without drama and be as comfortable. I feel they've found a near perfect middle ground between handling and comfort. Now on a track I'll take a C6 corvette thank you, but after a few hundred miles on highway 1, the cornering ability novelty wears thin as the back pain sets in. BMWs are marginally better than a corvette on ride comfort, but not by much. Only Audis I drove were a horrendous painful A3 and a better estate A6, I wouldn't call either a middle ground for anything when it came to handling and comfort. Neither was comfortable, A6 marginally better than the A3, and handling was just ok. Not being entirely fair as the A6 was an estate and you definitely felt the heft in the corners. The last gen E class is too wafty and bouncy at speed (mind you autobahn speed), and handles like a boat. It was comfortable though. On the "boring" perspective, if that means it's less likely to get noticed, vandalized and nicked, then I'm glad it's boring.

LOL! I'm missing my turbo, those damn assembly line workers forgot to install one!

Thank you John, which is what I was trying to say. The CC's have also sunk in recent tests, which is why they switched to CC+ to keep ahead and now there's the CC2 and the treads and compounds keep getting updated all the time. P4S' are what, now a 5 year old design that is kept popular by people buying what they're used to. Bugs my wife to no end the amount of research I put into purchases like tyres. I've had Bridgestone UHP summers a looong time ago (can't even remember the name), Continental extremecontact all season on the XF in Salt Lake, before that favoured the Yoko V4Ss for a while on my 2 door Accord, really liked the Dunlop winter sport (4 I think) I had on my civic up in Scotland, they're up to 5 now . I've also had a share of michelins the Michelin P4S on our XF before being sold, another set of michelins on the 4 door Accord, and the CC+ on the 4 door civid in Germany. Goodyear Wrangler ATs on my F150. I'm pretty sure I'm missing some sets, lots of travel and lots of swapped cars over the last 20+ years of driving but as one can see no preferred brand or tread, just whatever comes up trumps in testing for the type of driving I anticipate for where I am in the world.

Went back to the manual. I only remembered the under door handle keyhole. Found the boot one on the ES on page 546, on the other side of the license plate under the lip mirroring the button release location.

This guy's channel is very useful, can one of the mods sticky it please. Nice find David! Spark plug, filters and fluid replacements for a host of lexus vehicles. https://www.youtube.com/user/Vikgerasim/videos

Thank God we can still access the jump points in the engine bay without electricity (cable latch release). Can you open the boot (and battery therein) when the 12v is dead? It's an electronic release on mine.

Well with a hybrid, technically you could start it from the cig lighter, you'll only be using those jump batteries to start up the dead electrical systems, the traction battery would take care of spinning up the electric motor and subsequently the actual engine. Assuming of course the traction battery still has charge and that cig circuit is connected when car is off.

Compact Jumper batteries can feed though the cig socket to jump start the car https://www.acc4u.co.uk/collections/jump-starters/products/black-decker-12v-cigarette-lighter-plug-in-car-battery-booster-jump-starter

While newer lexuses and other manufacturers have their primary cat in the engine bay for quicker warm up, it's the secondary cats they're stealing now and those are still below. GS wasn't a target in the past, it is now...

Here's a question for you Herbie. I've read the manual cover to cover, always do, and while that procedure is in there they are vague about the EPB. If the 12v battery is dead, does operating the shift lock release release the EPB? Only thing I found outside of the manual was this, and it seems the answer was no on an NX and to release requires removing the wheel. (https://www.clublexus.com/forums/nx-1st-gen-2015-2021/950980-how-to-manually-release-parking-brake-when-battery-is-dead.html) Seriously what was wrong with the manual handbrake?!

11 gallon tank, car can do 60+ MPG on long hauls, that's 660+ miles if you want to run it to empty. See

The only "tire preserving" driving I do is I don't brake often, at 84k I still hadn't changed pads. I maintain speed and plan beyond the tip of my nose when it comes to slowing down and accelerating. Not particularly difficult to do, especially when I know the route and know when and where speed limits change. On the other hand, loops I take at maximum posted limits, and enjoy the lateral G's. That civic was known for its cornering ability and I relished its limits in the dry and the wet. Took it on twisty routes through the Eifel. I also enjoyed the excellent off the line acceleration. I also maxed out that car on the autobahn on more than one occasion but not frequently. Mind you that civic only weighed 1.3 tons. Oh and I drove that car non-stop germany to uk and back once before selling on that same set of tires. I'm on my second set now on a new car. I drive considerably more sedately in the ES than in the civic. However, we have rougher surfacing here, and it's a 1.6-1.7ton car. I'll report back how long this set lasts with my "driving style". EDIT: proof of longevity attached to previous post. Tire compounds and treads have moved on from our prior preconceptions.

Have the measurements on dealer service papers to prove it. Rather insulting of you to say outside realm of reality. I will note that's on German tarmac, UK surfacing is a lot rougher, but speeds are more sedate. EDIT: proof attached from last service before car was sold to the same dealer 11.2021 with 4k more use. btw Tires replaced prior to PDI, received car with <10km on odo.

Last set I sold the car 3+ years later with 84k km and they still had 4.5-5mm left. Average MPG on a 2018 1.5T manual civic was 5l/100km (56.5MPG). Yes they did get noisier with age. Must be rotated.