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You couldn't make it up!

Spot on Malc, but I think it's simpler than that. The WFA argument by the TUC is not about pensioners it's about who "controls" the country. Having caved in to pay claims within days of attaining office the unions know when they see a vulnerable animal. This has all the echoes of a 70's style Arthur Scargill moment.

"in his defence"? As the longest serving Minister in that illustrious post I admire your pun 🙂

Totally believable 😎 don't you know who I am?

Very reminiscent of the Labour great Dennis Healey who savaged property speculators when Chancellor and introduced a top rate of income tax of 83%🤯. Yet in his will of nearly £3 million pounds (when 3 mn was a lot of money) £1.9 mn of that was his house!! He also had a damascene conversation it appears? 🤔🙂

I used to be indecisive but now there's a definite probability of a firm maybe that I can't make my mind up 😂

Ask any German they can assist you I am sure 😅

Mugs are what you drink from not vote for 🙂. Watching youtube just now on the Reform conference from Birmingham what struck me was ; with the exception of Dr David Starkey I know of no other who are totally supportive of this countries history, achievements and gifts to the world. Yet withdrawal of the WFA is one example of a very clear attack on the very group trying to protect our very culture.

Which doctor? How lucky are you getting time with a doctor? 😅

Neither will the 22bn black hole analysis, or Rayners 5 days in a luxury penthouse in New York for a value of £1250 🤯🤯🤯.

From today's BBC interview of Lisa Nandy , Ms Nandy said: “Well, actually, there are mixed views out in the public about the winter fuel allowance. I think most people will accept that the very wealthiest shouldn’t be in receipt of something that costs the country over billion pounds a year. I think most people would accept that the very wealthiest pensioners shouldn’t be in receipt of a free allowance.” Charlie cut in and said: “Sorry you were pointing the finger at very wealthy pensioners.” Ms Nandy replied: I’m not pointing the finger at anyone.” Stayt said: “That is the phrase you used.” Presumably she means the House of Lords? Or retired Union bosses?

"The unripe grape becomes as sweet as honey, at a slow pace" (ancient Greek proverb"

I also read this today from the open policy forum " The Labour Party’s largest-ever donation came from a Cayman Islands-registered hedge fund with shares worth hundreds of millions of pounds in fossil fuels, private health firms, arms manufacturers and asset managers. While the £4m donation by Quadrature Capital is the sixth-largest in British political history, it is noteworthy not just for its size, but also its timing. I wonder what they expect as well as the unions?

Reminds me of Captain Mainwearing 😎

Just to update you Malc from the MSE site "Child Benefit is a monthly payment for anyone with parental responsibilities for children under the age of 16 (or up to 20 in full-time education). It's worth claiming as it can be worth over £17,000 (or more if you've two or more children). We've full detail on how it works, how to claim, and what happens to the Child Benefit payment if you or your partner earn more than £60,000 a year." how lucky are you not to have any qualifying 🙂

OMG Nick 🤯, what a brilliant find! In the sixties being the yoof we couldn't care less, being old was something over the hill and far away,my how things change 😐. I wonder if this can be played automatically on a tik tock or Facebook sign in page 🤔

Hic! 🍷What's wrong with that hic! Make mine a double!

Couldn’t agree more Gray. Essentially our version of democracy is now pandering to the minority on the falsehood of "fairness" at the expense of the majority, talk about an upside down world. As to honesty listen to Groucho Marx " The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing, if you can fake that you got it made" 😅

Not complex at Malc, just follow the same model as child benefits that reduce with earnings via your HMRC code.

Not the point Steve. What you are witnessing here on the LOC is a microcosm of a wider malaise felt across the whole country. It seems everyday some new revelation tests the publics patience. Today for example, Starmer last year paid 25% tax on 400k of income in addition he took since 2019 more freebies than any other MP, 76k. Pat Mcfadden, cabinet minister claiming 40k to rent his next door home - it goes on and on. 🙁

You are right Steve but how many of the 11 million are actually aware of it. I seem to recall for years Government has stated "you are ENTITLED" to this that and another. But we also know some people know how to game the system and obtain extraordinary payments. I don't think however that should be the line of enquiry. For me the question is "what have been your life circumstances that resulted in you qualifying for PC? We are now in this egregious situation of people getting WFA and a host of other benefits having finagled their way through the system and being paid for by people who haven't. Oh the irony! Furthering the demise of the OAP golden goose in support of parasitic bloodsuckers eventually leading to their own inevitable conclusion.

Moaning? 🤔

From today's express " Labour MP Alex Baker was hounded by angry pensioners at a pub where she was reportedly booed over the winter fuel payment cuts. A video posted on X, formerly known as Twitter shows people at the pub shouting “Rushmoor people first” & “and our pensioners”. Looking further into the Aldershot MP there are large contributions from Unions but more intriguing from a medical plc called OPD. It has had Virginia Bottmley as a director, and made significant contributions to Baker and Wes Streeting. Let's see which committee she pops up on?

Entirely agree Len. Our history of contributions is just that history and irrelevant to making today's choices. Unless it contains the words Aneurin Bevin all history is to be forgotten. And all you represent to them is an inheritance to be squandered like some wayward offspring. But when that runs out then what? 😕

The mind certainly does boggle. Lammy? The same Lammy who wore trainers and a suit on his American trip last week! Starmer? The same Starmer who lives in a £1million plus house, had a special tax treatment of his pension which means minimal affect to him however rules change, whose wife and sister are paid through the public purse. (Neil Kinnock and entire family spring to mind). And is reputably worth £8 million. That Starmer you mean?