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Get better soon John. Just look at the things comming soon. 10 already for this year and at least a couple of them interesting. When things start to roll, nobody can stop them.

10 Hydrogen fuel cars worth your attention in 2023 Hydrogen fuel passenger cars aren’t mainstream yet, but here are some models for you to watch. https://www.hydrogenfuelnews.com/hydrogen-fuel-cars-10/8557113/?awt_a=1jpsU&awt_l=IFzTR&awt_m=iG0jJYl3_e5DlsU

I have been crossing rivers in Africa with Renault 4, Mercedes 350SE, Peugeot 604 and a couple of other cars with water up to the bottom of the car and nothing ever happened, so why should a Lexus not be able to handle such?

I do believe we live in democrazy. Someone said something like: spend time with the average voter and you know why it does not function. Or is it just what I think? No. I do not think higly of average human intelligence. But I do respect all living creatures as they are all needed in order to keep a balance here where we live. In the world there is sufficient for all to live well, the problem is greed.

First part of what you write make sense. Throwing soup on paintings has nothing to do with environment. That some want to do anything to get in TV and newspapers is their own stupidity. Banning meat is a bit over the moon and veganism is OK for those who do not want to eat meat for whatever reason. And who is forcing people to ride bikes or walk I do not know anything about. What insulating Britain means I have no idea of, but maybe you can explain. I can easily explain why politicians want to reduce pollution by banning combustion engines. They are trying the simple and easy solution to get people to use their laptop batteries to power cars as electricity is available in sufficient quantity to power our laptops. Not enough to power batteries in cars? Did not know that. Batteries do not last long. Did not know that. Not possible to get materials enough to make batteries needed. Did not know that. Not possible to recycle all batteries. Did not know that. That is how politicians think! Politicians do not care the least about reducing pollution. They just say so. And in your mentioning of various stupid political directions you forgot fascism and common greed. Calm down. None of us here have any impact on anything happening anyway. Same stupid politicians will be elected again by same stupid voters and all is like always. We will leave the world in worse condition to our children than we received it so we have done what humans do.

Damage is done already and was before she was ever mentioned. I Germany they dig and burn coal to produce electricity. In Denmark they have done it since forever. The good done by the people behind her (as you mention it) is that many more, before not really interested people, now see the businesspeople and politicians as the hypocrites and liars they are. Not that it seems to make any difference as they will continue business as usual. Pretty sure reasonably fuel cells without rare materials will be ready in a couple of years and when enough ships and trains and heavy-goods-transport will be moved with hydrogen power, it will come down using hydrogen other places like cars.

The Canadian hydrogen supply company HTEC will construct the facility on the North Vancouver Coast. Based in Vancouver, HTEC recently announced plans to build British Columbia’s (B.C.’s) biggest green hydrogen plant to date, and construction of the production plant is directly linked to the company’s purchase of ERCO Worldwide’s 19-acre industrial waterfront property, which is located on the North Vancouver coast. This project marks a significant step in the rollout of hydrogen fuel infrastructure in B.C. The green hydrogen plant will capture, purify and process H2 that is byproduct of ERCO’s chemical process used at its adjacent sodium chlorate factory. The hydrogen will be made using an electrolysis process that produces 56 kilograms of hydrogen per ton of sodium chlorate generated. The plant will capture this energy source from the factory, which was previously wasted, and transform it into fuel to supply HTEC’s growing network of hydrogen fueling stations. According to HTEC’s vice president of clean fuels, Sabina Russel, the plant has the potential to support the deployment of approximately 30,000 fuel cell vehicles. “We’re using something that’s otherwise wasted to replace diesel and gasoline and help us move to the zero-emission vehicles,” Russel said, who also serves as chair of the Canadian Hydrogen Fuel Cell Association. The green hydrogen plant will serve as a model for similar facilities in the province. HTEC expects to build more green hydrogen facilities in B.C. over the next decade as demand increases for this clean fuel. Russel believes that H2 is going to “play a very important role” in helping Canada meet its net-zero goal. Presently, HTEC owns and operates five hydrogen fuelling stations in British Columbia. Among them is a station at North Vancouver’s Westview Plaza and one in Kelowna. Additionally, HTEC manages an H2 station on the campus of University of British Columbia. The company has plans for 12 more stations in the province in the coming year. “We’re going to see more stations come on line and the car manufacturers are basically trying to keep pace by producing the right number of (low-carbon) vehicles for the right number of hydrogen stations,” Russel stated. “We’re starting to see a lot more growth and at present there are around 200 hydrogen-powered vehicles in the province today that are using our stations.” HTEC’s new green hydrogen plant is slated to begin operation in 2025.

I did not say she is smart. Still, she was used and it did function and no reason to speak less flattering about anybody. Do you not know that politicians and businessmen are hypocrites? All they care about is to continue to increase whatever it is they want.

Funny is that whatever is true today may be wrong tomorrow. Nobody know where different governments in the world find out to take the money from; if it is electricity, gasoline, food or air we breathe. Gasoline here (super Shell V Power etc.) cost 1.48€ and for returning customers registered with them it is 0.1€ less each L.

If it was functioning before, you could have changed something in your smartphone making some needed information no longer there. If completely new, David could very well be correct.

Today it is still cheaper. What will happen tomorrow none of us know. When largest cement factories, shipping company, a few oil companies and several other are investing heavily in hydrogen, some of the smartest brains will be starting finding ways to solve the issues. That will overshadow the environmentally friendly grass-roots that started the search for new energy sources, being more efficient, having the needed funds to research, but do not criticise the grass roots that may not be of IQ 168 or more, and the 16-year-old girl (mentioned negatively by one in this forum) did so far accomplice more than all of us; she woke up a lot of people that up till she did it, were not at all interested.

Except that what she tell us is yesterdays news. Want to know next: https://scitechdaily.com/cheaper-hydrogen-fuel-cell-invented-enabling-better-green-energy-options/ Imperial College London researchers has created a catalyst using only iron, carbon, and nitrogen.

Still believe that when the CT needs to be replaced there will be filling pumps and hydrogen cars with either combustion engine or fuel cells or something else that can replace the stupid idea of destroying the world in search for materials to make batteries that last far too short a time. Sure it will be long before 2030 that we can find hydrogen cars. Said it before: All is impossible till it has been done.

A company in Germany has found a new way to make fuel cells different and far less expensive. Maybe because they can do it without the expensive materials. https://scitechdaily.com/cheaper-hydrogen-fuel-cell-invented-enabling-better-green-energy-options/ Imperial College London researchers has created a catalyst using only iron, carbon, and nitrogen. Where many things have been long time sleeping, some things are making some wake up and some of the smartest will solve the problems with many things, and just like batteries are better today than 5 years ago, so are many other things and after a lot of money has been put into hydrogen and solving the issues with it, some of the issues will be solved faster than many thought.

That can hardly be your problem Linas; some people can consume more information than other people and we may be more curious and want to know more than some in the forum.

What you mention about reliability of Lexus, the one we have is 6 years and some months old now and does function as when it was new, actually almost look as whan it was new when just washed. Price for same model with same so-called extras is around 20K € here so not really seems to be losing as much as most other cars from other brands. Hope (and believe) that when needing to be replaced there will be a hydrogen filling pumps and a hydrogen fuel-cell (if not hydrogen combustion engine) car not much bigger than the CT, as we do not need a big car and though a Mirai then probably will be reasonably priced it is too big for us and luxury is not what we need, just reasonable comfort when to be transported from where we are to where we want to go. Being retired now nex car will probably be a used one. One thing for sure is that hybrid is not for people living on a mountain island as driving around in our micro Lexus consume is above 6½L/100km, while the Old Golf 2.0 tdi DSG the CT replaced did need a little less than 5L/100km for driving same places same driver. Biggest problem for us with the Golf (lasted 200K km (used it to drive to north Europe to visit family regularly) without any other expenses than regular service) was the black cloud coming from the exhaust that needed 20 - 30 km spirited driving to clean exhaust in order to pass IVA (MOT).

Correct Vladimir, where are you John? You started the thread with a powerful engine, that actually can run on hydrogen and I see great potential for that engine in marine world. Private owned normal sized yachts would be well powered with such a monster. A little too big for small family cars, I think.

Great video. If you want a loudspeaker and a donut beanie. The guy was right. Hydrogen cars are not the solution today; one year ago, or more when the video was made there were more reasons, but today only one of these are still there. Lack of hydrogen pumps for hydrogen cars. And some places they are coming soon, other places much later. Actually, one more thing is correct: Hydrogen is today made from same polluting power as electric cars: Electricity made from gas and oil and some places even coal. UHH. That make the electricity to make hydrogen as bad as the electricity put in electric battery powered cars. I Germany 3 rather big companies are investing heavily in producing electricity from wind and solar cells to make hydrogen. Why not to electric cars? These companies believe that a fuel that return to the state it came from (water) is better than putting it into batteries that needs to be replaced before the life of the engines using the hydrogen. Makes sense? Much has happened in a year and more will happen in coming years. Hydrogen cars will be available in shorter time than many expect. I believe that long before 2030 when combustion engine cars are to be banned by stupid narrow and short-sighted politicians' hydrogen cars will be coming because one major gasoline and diesel company (in Germany) are planning something that so far is not official, but still talked about, - and they are not alone. The company that is in talk about delivering hydrogen to pumps in Germany first, from, if not clean at least much cleaner sources, is in talk with more companies about delivering hydrogen. Trains are now transporting passengers and goods powered with hydrogen. Much has happened in just one little year.

Yes, and here, like most places, masks are no longer mandatory except in hospitals. Denmark is no longer offering booster shots free. Believe we are not well prepared for next pandemic.

In our car you can by pushing the lever up (or down again) chose between having it in constantly working like in old times and here turning of the wheel will make it faster or slower. Do not remember which position is automatic or off or constant speed 1 or 2 (where the wheel is functioning), but should be easy to find out on a rainy day, of which you have several where you live, here not so often, which is why I hardly or actually never use the lever. I keep it in automatic.

I was in the airport here some weeks ago to pick up a family member from the cold north that wanted to have some sunshine. Airplane come one after another and mainly with tourists, and very many were speaking English I heard while waiting. The biggest mall chain is called El Corte Ingles for some reason I suppose. Lots of English-speaking people live on the south of the island here. During Covid time no airplanes were to see in the air, but now they are there all the time.

Using tidal power is a very old idea. Why none are using the enormous power source is hard to understand. Or maybe not. All is complicated till it is done. And this is one of the simple ones. Same system as water running down from mountains, making electricity extremely cheap in Norway and Sweden, except here it runs both ways.

That is a big difference between storing power in hydrogen and batteries. In windy times too much energy is sometimes produced and sunny days also give much energy. Should somebody wake up and start using the constant tide that is of enormous power, more or less minimal polluting power could be available and when not all needed some could be stored better than put into batteries.

The long term impact is what is coming from thinking short term. Have read somewhere that hydrogen could be stored for years without losing power. Do not remember where, but this is also close enough: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_storage

Hydrogen-Powered Passenger Trains Are Now Running in Germany They’re expected to keep some 4,000 tons of carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere each year In a bid to combat human-caused climate change, one state in Germany is rolling out a fleet of passenger trains powered entirely by hydrogen. Five of these “zero-emissions” trains began running late last month in Lower Saxony, a state in the northern part of the country. And over the next year, the regional rail line intends to replace all its diesel-powered trains with this new alternative, reports the Points Guy’s Harriet Baskas. Once all 14 of the new trains are in service, the line will become the first route to run exclusively on hydrogen, according to a statement from Alstom, the France-based company that developed the trains. The high-tech trains, called Coradia iLint, combine hydrogen with oxygen to produce power. The byproducts are only steam and water, and any heat created gets recycled and used to power the trains’ air conditioning systems. Diesel trains, on the other hand, produce high amounts of nitrogen dioxide pollution—even more so than cars traveling on busy streets, according to a study published last year. Developers say the new hydrogen trains are quiet, and they make the air cleaner for passengers to breathe. “It’s less noisy,” says Bruno Marguet, an executive with Alstom, to Fast Company’s Adele Peters. “You don’t smell the diesel smoke when you’re in the station… there aren’t diesel emissions from [nitrogen oxides], which are harmful for health.” Swapping out the diesel-powered trains along this Lower Saxony regional route should also keep more than 4,000 tons of carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere each year, reports Mark Hallam for Deutsche Welle (DW), a state-run broadcaster in Germany. The trains can travel 621 miles (1,000 kilometers) on a single tank of hydrogen. And when they need to refuel, they’ll do so at a hydrogen filling station that crews built along the tracks. They can run at speeds of up to 86 miles per hour, but they typically stay between 50 and 75 miles per hour on this route. European countries have electrified many train lines to eliminate the vehicles’ need for diesel. But that conversion process can be too expensive in some areas, particularly on lines that aren’t used as often, making the hydrogen trains a good alternative, per DW. Lower Saxony began testing the hydrogen-powered trains on the regional rail line in 2018. Next, the state plans to eventually phase out all 126 of its trains that run on diesel. "We will not buy any more diesel trains in order to do even more to combat climate change,” says Carmen Schwable, a spokeswoman for LNVG, the local public transit authority, to DW. German government agencies spent around $92 million on the project, which is one of several installations that Alstom has planned in Europe. Soon, the new trains will expand to other parts of the country and beyond: Frankfurt, Germany, has ordered 27 trains for its metropolitan area, France intends to deploy 12 of them and the northern Lombardy region of Italy plans to add six. Diesel-powered trains account for roughly 20 percent of all train journeys in Germany, and eventually, the country wants to replace 2,500 to 3,000 of its trains with hydrogen-powered alternatives. Hydrogen isn’t a fix-all, however. Though it’s the most abundant element in the universe, hydrogen must be separated from other elements to be used to produce energy. Extraction typically involves non-renewable resources—namely, natural gas and fossil fuel-powered electricity—and some of the hydrogen used to power Germany’s new trains is produced with fossil fuels. But within the next few years, the train operator aims to use hydrogen produced with local wind energy, per Fast Company—and elsewhere, other green energy sources could eventually help make hydrogen production more sustainable, too.