Moleman

Packet

Urine

What divisive talk I have been agreeing with you. Some major change in incomes and ability to spend has been occurring yet Governments have sought to hide this as much as possible.

That again is all true, but that was not the question or the point being made. Do not disagree.

Sour

Tree

I only answered your question, Who benefits - they do. 😁 The poor may or may not have improved their position, but the rich (top 1%) have certainly become richer and they keep getting richer. Those in the middle (most of us) have certainly seen a loss since 2008.

Education

Nutty

They do, something they are very good at achieving.

Rank

Consider

I noticed that today, my local supermarket has held petrol at 143.7 for almost a month even with the reduction in oil prices over the same period, no saving passed to the customer. Today they raised the price to 144.3, why? Oil price has not gone up! Captive market we are.

I know you are right but somehow an alternative system has got to be found. Why; because we have all become used to using the £35/37Bn that is currently produced by VED. If you take that away and not replace it, we as a society are going to have to make some difficult choices about what happens next and who loses. Do you think we are ready for that!

Tasty

But they could change this, see my post above.

I agree Alan, but the Green/Eco lobby have never recognised that need or any other need. They think we all live in Cities and can walk, cycle or use public transport.

I think we will face a similar situation in this country if an election is called.

Reference: A new smart metering device can give customers itemised electricity bills that detail how much power different types of appliance are using. The analysis can also be displayed in real time via a smartphone app. The device uses ‘Triple Ohm’ technology developed by Cornwall-based engineering consultancy 42 Technology. It can be embedded in the meter, and works by monitoring changes in the high-frequency current or voltage harmonics caused when specific appliances are being used within a building, and doesn’t require any additional switches or add-ons. It can differentiate between the characteristic traces of specific appliance types using an algorithm, and display the results in real time or store them on the meter for incorporation into a bill. The technology can also be used to monitor the load of different appliances. It is capable of differentiating between a vacuum cleaner with a full bag and one with an empty bag. “We have already built demonstration units, several team members have had them installed in their homes as part of a field trial, and we are starting to collect real usage data to show to potential development partners,” said Jeremy Carey, managing director of 42 Technology. Research in the US found that giving customers this kind of information led to a 12% average reduction in the amount of energy they used.

Well! Smart meters at home can do that. Why do you think they have pushed these so strongly! It is all about future billing and control of supply.

Nesbitt

The one place you really want it to work.

Butler

You could be right John, not sure what else it could be. The OP mentioned this before: Brand new car arrived with a damaged rear drivers side door seal. Makes you wonder if we are seeing the first example on here of a failure of quality control at Lexus.

Perhaps the combination of winter and E10.