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For what it's worth to you (which may be very little 😉) I disagree with most of what you say. 7 Deg c decreasing is the point at which a winter tyre becomes beneficial over a summer tyre. For anyone traveling early hours in the winter as I have for many years this is a fair percentage of winter months. Have a look at these results. I'd rather make do with a slight performance hit in the summer than a massive performance hit in the winter. https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/accessories-tyres/92873/all-season-tyre-test-2019-results-by-category

These are the first all-season tyres I've ever fitted. I toyed for years with fitting winter tyres. My Jaguar XF had them fitted when I first got it and I noticed the increased road noise when swapping them out for summer tyres. I would possibly agree that so far the fuel consumption has been a little worse. But the temperatures have been lower anyway and we have had plenty of rain. What I would say is that in the summer months a summer tyre will be better than a winter or all-season tyre, but the difference is nowhere near as stark when comparing how much worse they are in the winter. The difference is quite shocking. In fact it's well widely accepted that in the winter a 2WD car fitted with winter tyres is safer than a 4WD fitted with summer tyres. Especially in the snow. 4WD helps with accelerating but does nothing for braking. I've read a few motoring experts state that you would be better off running winter tyres all year round rather than summer tyres if safety is your primary concern. Especially with our climate. What muddies the water further is that not everyone fits premium summer tyres. So it's possible that a decent all-season tyre could out perform a lower quality summer tyre even in the summer. Plus we do have rain in the summer. Having ran these now for a few weeks I'm already of the opinion that I wouldn't think of fitting anything else to my CT. Unless of course they prove to wear prematurely by some huge amount. They are extremely quiet (which makes a big difference to me in a hybrid), less harsh, and have incredible grip in the wet. Temperatures are only just approaching the 7 deg C threshold but remember the Cross Climates have a summer bias. I drive a mix of town, country and motorway miles all year round and for me these are the jack of all trades that I need.

Great tyres those. Had them on an Audi A3 and a Jaguar XF. But really impressed with these Cross Climates.

It's the factory fitted profile. They actually don't look as the Yokohama low due to the sidewall design. But they are far less crashy. Very pleased with them.

Just fitted x4 Michelin Cross Climate +. Noticeable improvement for me. Quieter, less harsh, and incredibly grippy in the wet. They are an all season tyre with a summer bias and are highly recommended on this forum. Kwik Fit had a deal on recently nso I got all four fitted for just over £400 with a set of true wireless earbuds thrown in for free.

Very similar to me then. Bought the car. Had it over a year and have renewed the warranty so all good. Thanks

I'd pay the extra I reckon if I was buying again. The extra safety kit on the newer CTs plus the larger screen, better stereo, auto mirrors etc would be worth the extra cash to me. Although I have to say I have been pleasantly surprised by the halogen headlights on mine Not as good as the Xenons on my old Jaguar but miles better than my wife's BMW and my Dad's golf which are verging on dangerous

Not sure if this issue only affects upgraded stereo/nav but my Xiaomi mi 9 works fine with my standard stereo/nav. And so do my OnePlus 5T before it. This might even be dependent on what version of Android the phone's software is based on.

Good morning all, I was on the look out for some Michelin Cross Climate+ tyres to replace my Yokohama fronts and Nexan rears. The rears have only covered 10k but want to replace all four together as the Michelins are obviously an all weather tyre. Anyhow, Kwik Fit are currently offering 10% off a pair and 15% off four. You can also claim some free Michelin Wireless earbuds if you are that way inclined. So a set of four for my CT200h just cost me £415.70 including a £5 charitable donation for a children's cancer charity. The discount worked out at £63.30 and they are due to be fitted on Wednesday morning. I also went through Quidco in case I manage to also succesfully snag the £17.16 cashback which has so far been confirmed as tracked. Just posting in case anyone is considering fitting these tyres to their Lexus in time for winter.

I have one routed the same way. Very convenient.

Yes I think the prices may creep up as there aren't many alternatives. In many ways it's the perfect car for me at the minute. It drives so much better in my opinion than is suggested by the motoring press. I watched an independent dealer on YouTube who bought one to sell on and he ended up keeping it. Interesting what you say about the UX as I thought it might be an option in the future. Has there been any difference to fuel consumption with the Cross Climates?

Shortly after buying my CT I also fell into the category of wanting a 'better' one. I wanted specifically the Adaptive Cruise Control, Lane Avoidance, 10" screen, better stereo and Premium Nav. I thought long and hard about chopping mine in for a MY2018 to get the above kit. But I was looking at at least another £6-7K on top of mine. I had to ask myself was it really worth it for what is essentially the same car with the same reliability, same performance and same efficiency. On top of that I would loose the zero road tax status and there are things about my car that I like such as the colour, sunroof and seat coverings which in combination are fairly unique to the Advance Plus. So my answer was no. I work overseas and the car stays at an airport carpark during winter months for a week at a time, every other week. In the summer I work from home and enjoy taking my kids to school out of town where I can regularly get 66-72mpg. Like John I now see the car as a workhorse I fully own that looks nice, drives nice and hopefully won't let me down. I've just stumped up for a 2-4-1 warranty and will fit some Michelin Cross Climate Tyres before the winter arrives so I'm fully invested. So I've surprised myself to be honest as I love gadgets and technology. On another note my wife and I test drove a Toyota CH-R a few weeks back as she likes them and is thinking about a new car. The salesman was ex-BMW and drove a hybrid Corolla. He told us he only gets 54mpg and I bit my lip and stopped short of telling him he was doing something wrong. We took the CH-R out for a 40 minutes test drive after resetting the OBC. By the time we got back it showed an average of 67.9mpg which is impressive for a car like that. Lovely car and bigger than I thought it would be. It also had all the safety kit listed above. But again the interior is just not a Lexus. But my wife loved it.

Great post that. I think what we are seeing with today's cars is they are like gadgets. The latest tech is what makes people want to change their car in the same way they change their mobile phones.

It's a shame the Corolla interior is so cheap and nasty. Not a patch on the CT inside. But lovely on the outside and uses the 4th Gen Hybrid system.

From what I understand there is no need to drive around. Engine charges the big traction battery which in turn charges the 12v battery. With the car in Ready state sitting idle, if the large traction battery needs charge the engine will run.

The one linked was for 8ltr petrol and diesel engines. So it might at least be cheaper to go for something suitable for a smaller engine instead.

What's interesting about the hybrids is that a traditional powerpack is surely overkill. As it's not required to turn over a starter motor but just power the computers and display.

Oh great. One of the reasons for buying a Lexus was the dealers apparently being the best in the business. I guess I should have interpreted that as just not as sh*t as the others.

Thanks. I actually live a little north of Bournemouth. Right in the middle of Swindon and Bristol. I've been using Lexus Bristol and they've been great so far.

I had an awful experience with them. Felt a little sorry for the salesman but I wouldn't touch them with a barge pole. Although he hasn't confirmed it's them.

If it is Hendys I'd try another dealership. They told me door catches cannot be adjusted. They also took paint off my wheel arches when attempting to perform wheel alignment. Smart alloy repair flaked after 1 week. The list goes on.

I read your post and wondered if it was Lexus Poole (stab in the dark). I checked your profile and see you are in Dorset. So was it Lexus Poole by any chance?

I know it's off topic but how are you liking the UX?

I had my alternator fail on my old Jaguar XF. Completely discharged the battery to the point where the car couldn't even change gear or light up the dash. And this was at night in the dark! My Ctek charger managed to smart charge the battery and it never gave me a problem after the alternator was replaced.