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Fantastic! That’s my ideal spec. I’ve not seen yellow in person but from the videos and photos I’ve seen it’s absolutely stunning. You’ll love it.

850 is about as bad as it’ll get - that’s a big big biggest service. For all that work on the service and twelve months warranty on something as performance-related as the LC it’s very cheap I think.

Agree the Bridgestones are rubbish. I’ve got PS5 on my Stinger and they’re way better than the Conti sport contact 6 that were on there. Age and tread depth may have an effect but I’m convinced they’re better, certainly in the wet.

Utter rubbish, with the greatest respect. Land Rover have recalled approx 70,000 cars so far, to improve security. They're actually DOING something. Lexus, apart from RX canbus plates that you have to know about and ASK for, have done nothing apart from suggest owners sort themselves out, or blatantly lie and say there isn't a problem with an enquirers specific model. RX was in the top ten most stolen list I saw a few months ago. France has the NX or UX right up there, can't remember which. The Rav4 has the same crap canbus system - popular and going missing in huge numbers worldwide. There's a new forum member joining literally every few days and asking why their car has vanished. Look at youtube - there are Ring doorbell videos galore showing Lexus being disappeared in seconds. Heck, a seller of the thieves equipment is on there advertising it for £2000-odd! Look at twitter - Essex police stolen vehicles unit posts up pictures of Lexuses almost as often as Fords and JLR products. Look at insurance costs - RX owners in particular are finding their renewals are massively inflated. Lexus, unless they pull their fingers out of their canbus port, are fast becoming as problematic as Land Rover.

Lexus seem to introduce suspension and ecu changes almost every new model year. Biggest change on the suspension according to Savagegeese on YT was the 2021 ally suspension change from steel - but would you notice? The rws might be noticeable and the lsd is useful but whether you’d spot the other changes I’m not sure. It’d take a lot of back to back driving.

I’ll watch that later. Thanks for posting! Did you know a prospective Takumi craftsman has to be able to make an origami swan with his non dominant hand within 90 seconds before he’s approved? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9AAWdCHaSQ That’s almost as fast as a canbus theft…

Challenge the dealer. Ask them to prove it. If they can’t, ask if they’ll pay for your tracker, immobiliser or ghost. Ask Lexus on social media. Ask dealers advertising Lexus for sale. The more pressure that’s applied the more likely we’ll get a solution. If dealers don’t know, how to thieves know exactly which bumpers to wreck? Answer : they don’t. They’ll destroy your bumper anyway.

Shame to hear of ricardo22’s loss. These cars are targeted because the canbus system ‘designed’ by Toyota is incredibly vulnerable. The ecus for the headlights are accessible within seconds. Video here by the seller of the thieves equipment shows how it’s done. He needs some practice - less than 60 seconds is possible. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMdfgYi09_w

You need to ask your dealer more publicly. Shout if necessary. Centre of the showroom. They’ll get you the information then. Or ask Lexus themselves on twitter, Facebook, instagram. LC, NX, UX, ES, RX and maybe others are at risk. Only RX has been graced with a solution. If our dealers don’t know if we have a problem what’s the chances of a thief ripping our bumpers off to find out? Fairly high I’d say.

Mines 2021 and the flap opens like there’s a hungry werewolf behind it - feed me! - so I’d guess they fixed the problem on newer cars. But IT RATTLES! Top down, windows down, the fuel flap will jiggle a bit on bumps. Maybe that’s the price you pay for the upgraded werewolf version.

Good review but I can’t understand why they’d release it without muting the messaging in CarPlay. That’s just odd. ‘21 LC with CarPlay is fine. I’ve seen these in my Lexus dealer - they look really good - the RX always seemed a bit awkward from some angles and a bit up on tippy toes but the changes to the 500h, rear especially, gives them a really good look.

I think I’d be phoning Lexus customer services. Lincoln need a kick up the a se for not doing their job, and Chalfont can have one too while you’re at it. I’d bet there isn’t an LC in the country that isn’t under the Relax scheme. Relax is supposed to be exactly that - relaxing.

Aston - dashboard, reliability and double oooh seven connotations. R8 - space. Maserati - reliability/had one/parts prices. BMW - don’t be silly. Corvette - chest not hairy enough, don’t have a moustache. Or a Stetson. AMG GT - very VERY close but not enough space. Ferraris - either ugly and turbod or beautiful, old and flakey. F type - kind of seems from a class below, great noise, not enough space (soft top). LC - noise, build, looks, reliability, warranty. Minus points - theft risk, quite wide, could be lighter.

First time I’ve seen it done that close up. Four minutes. He needs to practise.

Whether particular model years are affected or not, sh t sticks. They need to sort the problem while they’re still trading. This is a global problem too, it’s not like it’s just the tiny UK market.

Something with some form of anti theft system? Something they can insure? Something that’s not going to be the next JLR?

They’re only doing the RX so their name will still be mud as far as LC, LS, UX, NX and ES owners are concerned. If they do nothing their name will also be mud with insurers. See JLR auction prices for how well that plan worked out. The only way to solve it is to make a Lexus something thieves aren’t interested in, by fixing every afflicted car. Every single one. By recall. Not by owners chasing Lexus on an individual basis because Dave down the pub said they could get something done about it if they asked nicely. The first post from new members here is “my cars gone, apparently I could have had some plates fitted to stop it”. That ain’t good enough. Suggesting to owners they fit immobilisers and (now proven pointless) steering locks ain’t good enough either.

I’d take it to Lexus. If they sorted the canbus problem via recall you wouldn’t need the immobiliser.

It’s in the dictionary - look for ‘Lexus attitude to security flaws’ - it’s right there 👍

May I as an atheist politely suggest the head of the head of Lexus on a stick instead?

No, I disagree. The best person to speak to at your dealership would be whichever salesman is stood next to a potential customer and a Lexus. Loudly. Very loudly. Failing that, the Lexus social media team may be able to answer your very public enquiries.

Welcome to the forums. You’re new member number 3 this week discussing security - on the positive side you’ve still got your Lexus - the other two new members haven’t! RX owners can have steel plates fitted free of charge but it won’t stop someone ripping your bumper to bits - contact your dealer for their invisible steel plate ‘solution’ as they don’t seem to give two hoots about advertising it. Actually, don’t contact them. Go into your dealer in person on a Saturday and ask in a very loud voice next to the sales desks what they’re going to do about the problem. Then ask Lexus customer services why a recall hasn’t been issued. Then get on social media and ask them the same question. Then get your 4 figure insurance renewal and pay through the nose for Lexus UKs lackadaisical attitude to their customers. Then get an immobiliser fitted at a cost to you of several hundred pounds. Then get your bumper ripped off anyway.

There’s about 550 LCs in the UK so based on 36 autotrader ads that’s about 6.5%. I do watch the ads (mainly to see how many moneys I’ve lost) - there’s a few that might never sell eg the Wigan silver one with funny coloured wheels at £52,000 - earliest record I have of that was £66,000 in April 2022! You’d give up after nearly two years, surely? My guess on the canbus theft risk is not many owners or potential owners know it’s a problem - we only know of one LC theft which is positive I suppose. Hopefully the insurance industry is still as unaware.

My hope is the RCF and LC are not desirable to the Middle Eastern muppets that buy these straight out of the containers. I’ve seen container auctions on instagram - cars being sold off to men bidding while wearing long white dresses in a sweaty desert somewhere, there are even the shipping containers in the background. That’s where the SUV Lexuses are going - they love em probably because they’re so reliable - but I’d like to know how they’re sold without keys. Presumably once you’re into the canbus system you can program new keys to them?

I think Toyota’s cost benefit analysis will hit JLR levels soon. At that point we’ll get the correct solution.