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I've just collected my new MY23 ES 300. At the dealership, we went through all the controls and settings, and linked my phone to the Navigation system (not just bluetooth calls). After my trip home from the dealership, I checked the details for my trip on the app on my phone; everything was fine, displayed in miles and mph, mpg etc. I checked the same trip on My Lexus on my PC, and in Trip History it shows the same trip home, but everything is in km and kph. Moving on to Driving Analytics, the analysis shows miles and mph BUT it has taken the km and kph figures from Trip History, and simply changed the description to miles and mph - a trip of 26 km is showing as 26 miles. Has anyone had anything similar?

I guess that blows my theory then. Good luck with getting a successful outcome.

I realise this won't make the OP feel any better, but it's more ammunition to use in his arguments. I finally collected my Premium Edition today - ordered in February. I got the £2K deposit contribution, and a rate of 4.99%. This is purely a guess, but I wonder whether the OP's dealer failed to submit a credit application to Lexus Finance at the same time as they placed the order. I know my dealer did do that; in one of our conversations shortly after I'd placed the order, he told me that my credit application had been accepted. As I say, it's only a guess, but I can't think of any other reason why Lexus Finance would apply those terms to some orders and not others.

Please explain how you don't lose all the contribution if they are no longer offering it.

Given the current delivery performance, I'd be more concerned about MY25 changes.

Long ago when I worked in the Middle East, I had to go to Geneva to meet my boss. This coincided with him collecting his new car, a Lotus Esprit Turbo. After about 30 minutes of him driving, he offered to let me have a go. One thing I do remember is that the Lotus had Morris Marina door handles and switch gear. So to all of you who used to look down on the Marina, using the theme of this thread it, it was clearly the same as an Esprit Turbo.

It does seem strange that it takes Lexus almost as much time to get a car from the docks to the dealer as it does to ship it from Japan to the UK. Mine allegedly arrived in the UK on October 28, but has still not reached the dealer.

The Premium Edition with the higher priced metallics comes in at £5 under the £40k tax bracket. Don't look at the retail price on the price list, look at the P11D value. The next price increase will definitely take the Premium Edition into the higher bracket - when I was placing my order, the price difference between Premium Edition and Premium Pack was about £4,500; it's now about £8,000, so the PE price has clearly been held down to keep it below £40k.

If this thread has generated interest in the Stinger, I'm afraid it's too late! https://www.am-online.com/news/manufacturer/2022/11/11/kia-bids-farewell-to-stinger-as-ev6-gt-becomes-brand-s-flagship

So does Japan!

Are you sure about that? And even if it were the case, what about the time it takes one car to refuel, compared with charging time? As an example, my local Sainsburys has 6 charging points. People tend to hook up their car, and do their shopping. Say the average shop takes 30 minutes, that location charges 12 cars per hour. The same site has a filling station with 16 pumps. Assume an average fill up of 5 minutes, each pump does 12 cars per hour - so the filling station can handle 16 (the number of pumps) times as many cars per hour as the charging points.

Did you realise that when people click on the link, they see the OP's postcode?

I've had the email saying mine is now in the country, so hopefully not much longer now. Ordered in mid February, in case anyone's trying to compare against their order.

Given the current supply difficulties with Lexus, I can't think of one single reason why a dealer would delay submitting a sold order "to ensure that their future monthly targets are met". How would that work? Do you have any reason to suggest that?

If yours has left the factory, I would have thought it should be sooner than mid February. Shipping from Japan takes 4 to 5 weeks, then it takes about 2 weeks to go from the docks to Burnaston, then out to the dealer.

Of course, you'll now have to upgrade to an MY23 version. I believe the prompt for voice activation is "Hey Lexus", but that can be changed - you could have "Hey Betsy".

I thought babies kept people awake at night!

For those of you who appreciate irony, there is now an ES brochure available to view on the Lexus GB site. In the section at the back "Terms and Conditions" it says: "Some Lexus vehicles (including certain specifications and colour/trim combinations) are built to order and could take approximately 2 to 3 months from time of purchase to delivery. For detailed information on lead times, please consult your local Lexus Centre."

Disclaimer - I haven't tried this site. There are various sites which claim to offer a build sheet, or specification, from a VIN. Here's a link to one - google for others. https://www.faxvin.com/vin-decoder/lexus

You're not alone; the only consolation is that things seem to be starting to improve now. When you have a spare hour or two, read this thread in the ES section.

If it's on its way, then it should be with you well before February. Mine got onto a ship at the end of September, and my dealer is saying November delivery; I expect it will be late November, but that's still a lot quicker than you're being told.

End of quarter matters for dealer registrations, not order take. It doesn't matter when you order your car, it's when it's recorded as a sale.

You need a Jaguar umbrella for all the times you're left standing in the rain at the side of the road waiting for recovery.

You might want to mention the inadequacies of their app. If I log onto My Lexus on my PC, it tells me that my car went from 'Order Processing' to 'Build in Progress' last Wednesday (21st). I received an email confirming this. Today (26th) the app still shows the car at 'Order Processing', even though they sent me an update message via the app saying that it had moved to 'Build in Progress'.

I've worked for manufacturers. It used to be a standard procedure in the ongoing cost reduction exercises. A bright young lad fresh from college would come along and ask why each car had an individually specified wiring harness, as it would be more cost-effective to make them all the same for all cars, and would reduce line stoppages for cars waiting for their individual harness. So we went to standard wiring harnesses. In the next round of cost reductions, the next bright young lad asks why we are fitting all this unnecessary wiring to cars which don't have all the items fitted that the harness has wires for, and wouldn't it be cheaper to have individual harnesses for each specification? After all, it should all work with just in time manufacturing.