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I noticed increased number of electrical faults, failed sensors, gearbox solenoids etc. But I don't attribute it to the car, I attribute it to covid restrictions and many cars spending nearly 2 years not being driven regularly. My conclusion is that cars don't like to sit for long periods of time parked. But it applies to any car, not just IS250.

Have you tried to ask for "Essential Care" rather than standard service? Lexus no longer has it officially, but some dealers does it if you insist... and that is quite good price. Something like £180 for intermediate service, which then would make sense to add other items you want done and still get everything done cheaper than full 80k miles service. Otherwise, I think there will be no difference in price whenever you got 80k miles full or if you go 70K miles intermediate + diff oil + brake fluid. As well I am not sure full service even include these items, strangely Lexus now changed the site in the way that is more difficult to find what is actually included in which service.

I know what you are saying, but you decided to include word definition as if I am illiterate and the definition does not correctly describe what "intermittent" mode actually does. I am just nit picking, as you know I like bit of this action, so don't take it too seriously, but you said: And now you saying: But now you saying disregard "the irregularity", as long as it is not continuous, it is "intermittent". So which one it is? Even then it is still technically continuous and it is steady, as it happens at regular intervals, steadily and continuously every x seconds until you turn it off. True intermittent would be a crazy mode where wipers operates completely randomly - it could 1 once every second and then once in 1 hour- you never know, because it is intermittent. My point is - word "intermittent" is used incorrectly in this context (not by you, but whomever decided to call it that way). I am sure we can continue deep into linguistics and trying to find culprit who failed the humanity by incorrectly calling slow wipers mode "intermittent", but I know it is pointless, especially considering that we both know what we talking about. Yes IS250 with auto wipers does not have this mode, yes there were few occasions where I wanted it to have it, but it is rare. Just don't use definitions against me if you right away disregard them yourself.

Thanks for definition, but you do realise that calling any wiper mode intermittent (except of automatic) is just incorrect based on what this mode does, because even slow setting would be "occurring in regular intervals", just with longer gaps between them. So if I understand you missing slow setting - which may be incorrectly called "intermittent"? Because if we go by what intermittent means then on "traditional" manual wipers there is no "intermittent" mode. Just slow mode which wipes then stops for 5 seconds, then wipes again. I think I did have few occasions where I was kind of annoyed to use single wipe manually (Lexus calls it "temporary operation") as automatic even on lowest sensitivity was too fast for conditions and I kind of wanted something that would be slightly slower than medium setting, but this is kind of exceptional circumstances.

yeah it is old thread... but the wiper stalk is as follows - single wipe, off, auto, medium intermittent, fast intermittent. So compared to car without auto, you only missing slow intermittent, which to be fair is fairly well covered by auto and single. Am I missing something?

I had same issue on IS250, the high pressure side pressure sensor was like £300. That is because Lexus does not sell the actual sensor, they only sell the whole high pressure assembly which is like log hard line specific to the model (at least that is excuse for the price). In the end I just got sensor itself from ebay, which was marked Denso, but I am 90% sure it is fake... regardless making pressure sensor is not rocket science and for £15, even if it is fake and even if its going to to fail every two years... it is still cheaper to pay £15+60 (for regas) than £371 + maybe £140 labour + £60 for regas.

And there are standard intermittent options as on any other car without auto wipers, so I really don't understand this issue. As well I had US spec 2010 IS250 AWD and it had sunglass holder, it wasn't getting hot at all and I am sure it is easy retrofit. There must be plenty US IS being broken apart so should be possible to get part for cheap. Like so: https://www.ebay.com/itm/124054895434 https://www.ebay.com/itm/144366577555

Note as well that car value you get in insurance quote is meaningless and not worth touching, increasing or reducing it manually could increase premium, but it is there just as guestimate and not worth worrying about. Even if they say car is worth £2000, it does not means you will get £2000. They valued my RC at £26,000 even thought car was maybe worth £20,000. But again in case of accident it does not mean I would have got £26,000. What you get in case of accident depends on the valuation which is given by insurance assessor at the time and date of the accident, it may be lower or higher and it may be negotiated. Yes I was never fond of looks of mk3, but it is more practical and faster than than IS250 and same road tax, so if one can look past the appearance it is good value.

Insurance is not out of touch, they are just scam, they always claim cars are worth less then they really are. But if you are in non-fault accident then you can insist car is worth more. Ideally use claims management company for that as then you have more leverage and can get fairer valuation. I noticed that there is a little bit "hidden gem" in the market now and that is GS300, same road tax, mostly same car just slightly larger, faster and better equipped. I am not fan of the looks, but GS300 SE-L can be had for £3000. Really struggle to understand how IS250 is more expensive, perhaps because it actually looks like modern car and GS does not.

Yes because the batteries takes-up the space. Again that is why I found RC to be so practical. With seats folded I was able to fit two full size mountain bikes with wheels removed inside the boot, that they had quick release hubs obviously helped. There is no way I am fitting any sort of bike in IS250, the only option is to fit some sort of roof rack or something.

Good investigation. Yes the hose at the top is "full" of coolant, maybe not completely when engine is off, but if you disconnect it there will be spill. I guess if you remove just right amount of coolant from the bottom you can minimise the spill. Yes you need to remove the hose to remove whole assembly, but I reckon it is possible to make assembly just lose enough to remove/replace the fan without needing to remove any hoses. IS250 is just horrible to work on as almost everything requires removal of radiator (and more) for access. And that is already shortcut, because following Lexus manual it would require removal of entire front end and radiator... just to replace the fan. I just can remember if motor is held in place by bolts or by rivets.

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I think you just looking for conflict where there is none (I am at fault as well) or perceive any disagreement as "aggressive and negative"... same as in previous conversation - you made statement of your opinion, proven nothing, but concluded that I am in conflict with myself, despite your strawman argument with which I mostly agreed. It is still strange that even when presented with objective source you still give no credit to what I have said. Question is really simple and not at all provocative - why would you spend more money for objectively worse tyre? I don't think it is controversial goal to get the best product for lowest possible price?

IS250C just changes some space from rear passengers, to boot - I guess worthy compromise for some. Although boot even being larger it isn't much more practical. Non-folding rear seats really hurts practicality of mk2, I especially feel it after RC which despite being coupe was way more practical, just because of folding seats. Kind of funny to reflect on my own posts 6 years ago - seems I eventually found myself limited by engine power. I will be fitting mirror fold kit!

Tyre topics always regress into mud slinging contests and I knew it from the beginning, the only thing I want to clarify - what I said isn't "my opinion", I rarely share my option and when I do I state it is opinion. Point understood on the skipping, and I understood it even before you clarified, I had those tyres, they had same "issue" and it is because of deep channels for aquaplaning, does not hurt the performance of the tyres even a little. I really don't understand this desire for mediocrity and sorry to say but bit of ignorance as well. I guess I need to add little bit more information when I say they are "mediocre" tyres, because this may be misunderstood. To explain it numerically - good tyres are the ones which could be expected to preform 90-100 on objective scale (something like set tests on tyre reviews), this is where most premium tyres are, 75-90, those are mediocre tyres and usually that is where you find most mid range with some exceptions and under 75, that is where budgets usually land again with exceptions. So Brigestone Turanzas are by all means are premium tyres which lands in that high quality tyres category, just maybe at the bottom of it - say 92, but there are others like Conti Premium Contacts and Goodyear Asymmetric which lands at 97-99, so they are objectively better tyres, with better grip, lower noise, better thread-life all at once... the difference isn't huge, but it is noticeable. Take for example this review, Turanzas T005 which are latest ones (older ones where even worse) are consistently mediocre, in review they even say "well Turanzas didn't even meant to compete at this level, but we included them because Brigestone for some reason sent Turanzas for UHP test (not UHP tyre), probably because they are new". What would warry me, especially in UK, is that they were extremely poor in wet. https://www.tyrereviews.com/Article/2022-Tyre-Reviews-17-Inch-UHP-Summer-Tyre-Test.htm Even then they were beaten by Goodyear EffcientGrip Performance 2, which likewise is premium non-UHP tyre. https://www.tyrereviews.com/Article/2020-Tyre-Reviews-Ultimate-Summer-Tyre-Test.htm So your view isn't controversial, it just lacks nuance. Yes manufacturers absolutely spend billions on R&D and absolutely they will get many mediocre parts, some of that R&D money is spent exactly for that, to find the hose which is not the best, but just good enough, the wire which is not the best, but good enough, tyres, windscreens, paints, metal etc. No auto manufacturer aims to get "the best" into their cars - they aim for rather depressing "good enough" and Turanzas are exactly that, they are mediocre, but they are good enough. As I said specific to the tyres sometimes manufacturers go extra mile to get better than average tyres and develop one exactly for their car, but even then cost cutting is there, just not the aim #1, but maybe aim #3... so "how good we can get these tyres without braking the bank or maybe even saving the money". Likewise pricing works completely different and competition is completely different on these bulk purchases and long term contracts - when you go to market to buy tyres there are fierce competition to make best tyre, the brand names matter, the marketing matter, what sort of driver you are matter and we buying tyre on it's own merits. When manufacturers buy tyres they literally buying just rubber, as long as it meets some basic safety and performance criteria, next thing on the list is to get best price possible and they may choose Brigestone over Michelin because of 5p difference in price, but maybe because it is logistically easier to source in Japan or whatever... not that many tyres are made in Japan anyway. Long story short, what matters when you changing the tyres is not what manufacturer fitted, because they had different criteria than you and that different criteria was to fit cheapest tyres which are still safe, as you can't get the pricing they got on their order you can't even match it. Don't think that Lexus fitted Turanzas because they were developed for IS300h in particular and it makes it better - no they were cheapest and still acceptable tyre. So when I go to shop for the tyres and see Goodyear Asymmetric/EfficientGrip, Dunlop Sportmaxx RT2, or Uniroyal Rainsport 5 for £67 (225/45/R17 mail order), or even Conti Premium Contact for £79, I will buy them every time before I even consider Turanzas for £82 or Michelins for £88 - Michelins are good, but they not as good as cheaper tyres... so why overpay? Yes Turanzas in isolation aren't bad tyres, they are safe and they perform better than best tyres 10 years ago, but they don't exist in isolation - there are better tyres for cheaper and that makes them mediocre tyre and poor purchase.

Most of Lexus models came with extremely mediocre tyres from new, all the Brigestones and the Yokohamas, Michelin Primacys were always quite bad and fitting something else always improved the cars quite noticeably. There are few exceptions, usually on F for Lexus and M, AMG cars, but manufacturers generally do not care how good the tyres are subjectively, they buy millions and million of tyres and they fit what makes most financial sense and what helps them to achieve certain CO2 and fuel efficiency figures. How good is the tyre is really secondary consideration outside of very well polished sports cars where manufacturers work together with tyre makers to develops specific tyre for the car. Now one thing to say, manufacturers generally fit "safe tyres", not because they really care, but because they don't want liability claims by fitting some ditchfinders. But to say - "this is good tyre because it came on car from the factory" is oversimplification, the manufacturer aims often are different than customer needs. Skipping - isn't really an issue and it is kind of sign of a good tyre for wet grip (because of deep channels to remove the water). I know some can consider that downside for comfort, but it never bothered me, because as you mentioned, it only happened when on full lock and turning wheel when stationary, which is just bad practice and should be avoided where possible. I had RTs and RT2 and they are one of the best tyres I ever had. Sure they kind of getting old now (they are equivalent to Goodyear Asymmetric 3s and 5s, and now we have 6s), but the way they were designed resulted in extremely low noise, excellent wet handling, good tread life and good fuel economy, that is because they had those deep channels, and soft rubber blocks combined with hard rubber blocks. It was really excellent tyre for it's time and great design, completely not comparable with mediocre Turanzas which are actually not even UHP tyre, they are more in line with something like Dunlop Sportmaxx SP Sport, which by the way were fitted by Lexus from factory and was quite bad tyre as well. Another good tyre which does a lot of skipping is Uniroyal Rainsport 3 and 5 and aforementioned Goodyear Asymmetric. As well I am not saying "one should expect problems" with Bridgestone's, I am saying they are poor value for money and mediocre tyres compared to what other premium tyre manufacturers are offering. There are few Bridgestone tyres which are somewhat decent and those are Potenza RE050A, horrible fuel economy and treadwear... and not the most comfortable, but they are very high performance and very grippy tyres. The other ones are Potenza Sport, which are quite new and they are relatively comfortable, grippy predictable on handling, but again poor treadwear, poor fuel efficiency and they are kind of UUHP (more like Pilot Sport 4S competitor). I wouldn't recommend neither of those tyres for IS300h as they are are really meant for more powerful and faster cars (say IS-F levels of performance). Turanzas are meant for power level of IS300h, but sadly they are just not great tyres generally.

Horrible as far as premium tyres goes, but they are at least safe tyres (in comparison with chinese dhichfinder you have), but mediocre in all possible ways, not the grippiest, not the most fuel efficient, not most comfortable (depending on which you get may even be very uncomfortable for low fuel efficient variants), not quietest (actually they kind of noisy) and the price is up there with best of the best. In comparison with Goodyear or Continental they just don't make any sense. In simple terms - if I buy the car and it has Bridgestone Turanza on it, I would not be happy to see them, but I would not immediately replace them if they are in good condition, I would drive them until they are about 2-3mm and replace them, they are mediocre tyres, but not immediate concern. If I buy the car and it has rotalia, accelera, shicholera, top-speed-into-the-ditch-allia or any other of those budget brands which have no right to be legal on the road, they are going to the bin as a priority no matter how much thread is left of them - they are just unpredictable and dangerous tyres. Funny enough that is exactly what I got on my car now, so as soon as MOT is passed and car is legal to drive (currently it is being fixed), my next priority step is to refurbish the wheels and fit the set of normal tyres.

Generally, Lexus dash is good enough for 10 years and presumably newer Lexus cars can survive even longer. In UK sun damage generally is not common issue, but there are steps you can take to prevent it and there are things to avoid. To prevent it it is best to keep the dash clean and ideally covered with UV protecting sealant, specifically for dash and interiors. What should be avoided - cheap valeting where they tend to use oily (actually it is silicone) interior dressings which usually have very shiny appearance and chemical smells. The problem with these, apart that they shiny and slick for no reason is that they use attract dirt (which is what causes damage to dash) and chemical solvents which required for chemical smells. So in short - do nothing just wipe the dust with dry microfiber and it will last 10+ years without issues. Apply correct protection and it will last practically forever, or use cheap valet where they will apply cheap mud which attracts dirt and degrades dash with solvents and it may fail in like 8 years.

Yes should be fine. Toyos are okey for the price, they are typical midrange tyre. Maybe little noisy for my liking and not as fuel efficient as premium tyre, probably does not have same thread life either. Michelins are good, but overpriced. I probably would go with Goodyear Asymmetric 6 or Continental Premium Contact 6 if I were to buy premium tyre, depending what comes cheaper.

The difference is that previous member had it damaged when he bought the car and dealership addressed that as part of purchase - yes that was easiest way. Do not expect for Lexus dealer to sort out your issue, or for it to be cheap - they most likely going to offer you new wheel for £2000, but if you are "extra special" client for them then they may take it to their nearest wheel refurb place and charge you £100 on top of what it costed to fix. Lexus dealerships are in business to sell cars and if that requires to do some cosmetic fixes they will do it to facilitate the sale, but they are not in business of wheel refurbishment so don't expect best service or value when it comes to that.

To "repair" i.e. if they bent or cracked, then it isn't really possible on forged wheels and generally not a good idea on most wheels. Refurbishes is not "repair" as the actual metal is not touched at all and it is simply repainting them, likewise if wheel is kerbed, this is simply filled in with filler as on any repainting job and makes no difference if wheel is steel, aluminium, forged or titanium. For 21" wheels + two colour and chrome complications I would expect like £150 per wheel refurbishment, but is it is because of chrome, size and dual colour, not because they are forged. I actually always hated the look of LC wheels, but having seen them refurbished in single colour, like gun metal or silver, I realised they actually do not look that bad, is just that dual colour chrome and black just makes them look to busy and messy in my opinion.

That is what I said - "fine" for track, don't use them on the road. And even then if you need grip on front, they not great... they probably would be more suitable to set on fire in the rear.

There is never anything good about Accelera dichfinders. I remember hearing something positive about them, but I think it was from you LOL. Again, I kind of understand cheap tyres for drifting, noise, fuel consumption and mileage isn't really relevant. Lack of lateral grip in the rear may even be desirable on car like IS250 which could sometimes struggle to overcome the tyres. But these tyres have no business being on the road - just outright dangerous and in my opinion should be outlawed. Funny enough Accelerra is typical suspect on tyre reviews used to show how horrible budget tyres are... and they never fail to disappoint. On dry they sort of "okey", but in wet they absolutely horrifying, unpredictable, uncontrollable and way below performance of even mid range. Here he specifically talks about rotalla, but in many videos accelera shows the same results... "okeyish" in dry - outright suicidal in wet. And here comes acelera:

Maybe don't... 🙂 If I found such tyre on my car I would replace it as priority, even if it is brand new. Just not worth having such tyres and the risk associated. I think one of 4 tyres on my IS250 is Accelera 😄 but as soon as car get's MOT, the next step is to refurbish the wheels and these tyres will go to the bin I don't care that they are like 6mm. I mean sure if you have set of wheels you are using for drifting practice, then why not, they going to be trashed anyway. But in that case I would just go with Toyo's as they would be more predictable... and generally it is not good to use different tyres between practice and race, unless you don't do timed and it is just for fun anyway.

Yeah, 2.5-2.6 are about right, you could probably go higher than that depending on how tyres wear. They are definitely not under-inflated. That said Toyo Proxes are not exactly fuel efficient tyres. If I am not mistaken they are like D-E for fuel efficiency.