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No way it will be gone in a few weeks. If thesituation around july/august is more or less under control we will be lucky. and yes, i also think the long term effects will be huge, there will be a world before and after corona and it will not be thesame. The car industry for instance is entering the biggest crisis since the war. This is big, nasty and agressive

Only part of the story im afraid. The virus main way of spreading is from human to human by coughing/sneezing. Minute particles are then released in the atmosphere that by simple breething can enter your lungs. the virus then nestles and one can only hope ones defense system can neutralize it. Washing your hands regulraly and in the correct way will help as well but for the rest...... Lets just hope for the best.

For a balanced view ( in my opinion) you can surf to Savagegeese review 2016 LexusRC200t goodbye.

well, when you dont realize youre in the hole you propably will?

this thread is developing in a bizarre way.. i keep thinking about a man on an empty beach digging a big hole and then jumping in......

no i dont think so. some nice artificial sheepskin covers with elastics will look nice. ebay will have thesame cover for the steeringwheel..

a bit like replacing the frontwindow with a television screen?

A 4 cylinder turbo engine will only be good on fuel when you dont use the turbo.... When that wheel starts spinning fuel efficiency goes down the drain it has always been like that. In spirited driving i guess you will push the car when possible and there it could be a big difference with the 500bhp LC. On thesame road with thesame speed it could well be you are using 80% of the power of the 4 and 35% of the 8 pot. Tests in real world driving have shown that a BMW 320 petrol turbo is considerably less efficient than the BMW 3ltr 6 cylinder it replaced. It is all about Co2 as we all know, the dreaded 95 grams....... By the way an LC is a totally different world than an RC in my opinion i am not surprised you prefer it!

will there be an EV version?

Well, it seems to make perfect logic to some to simply buy one for the looks alone?

Interesting write up nevertheless. In a nutshell it is about the development of the petrol engine over the past decade. 8 to 6 to 4 to even 3 and 2 cylinders with turbos added on all to reduce emissions. Gearboxes that shift up at 2000rpm etc. All well if you slowboat around town but sometimes in realworld driving it doesnt add up. My 250 was great and the only gripe i had was that it was a bit weak below 4000rpm ( and too small and brakes not strong enough ), my 300H in real world driving was wonderful especially the combination of instant torque from the battery and the CVT gearbox in town driving, always the right gear, a very destressing experience. i never drove a 200t but my BMW 320 was a 4 pot turbo automatic that drove me nuts. Try to enter a roundabout, floor the throttle, wait 2 seconds before the turbo spools up then the gearbox shifts down 3 or 4 gears and the moment is gone, And yes petrolconsumption was horrible. I somehow think a 300h would have been e better motor for you Linas, great gearbox instant pull from standstill and good fuelconsumption. I do agree with you on the looks i find it drop dead georgeos. The IS starts to show its age but the RC still looks exotic in its own right. In the right color Red or Blue it just melts all other cars around it, the only car you see is the RC, it is just beautiful. And Linas you have won the politician of the year award! After years of bashing the 200t trashy car that makes you feel sick when driving it you bought one!

You only like the looks and the rest is crap?

Im not sure if the current EV market is demand driven. It seems more pushed by legislation. The European WLTP norm that was laid down by the European Commision seems to be the big force behind all this. 95 grams in 2021 is the goal for automotive companies and with draconic fines if the average output of all cars together is above that. This is where Toyota finds itself in a different position than the European competition. Toyota is a truly global brand with focus not especially on europe so the european sales are part of but not dominating their figures. The Wltp is about european sales only. Other contributing factor is that all models in Europe are also availably with hybrid for some time now thus pusing the overall Co2 figure down. Toyota expects a fine of some 15 million end year, now compare that with VAG group that is looking at 1.5 billion... So the financial need for toyota is not really there to go EV full speed. VAG group on the other hand will introduce 23 EV models alone this year, now you know why..

Interesting article in Carbuzz.com today with the header - Teslas biggest threat could be Toyota -. last year sales of toyotas hybrid vehicles increased by 28.7% in the US while lexus hybrid sales rose by 43.1%. Toyota sold a grand total of 274,550 hybrids in the US in 2019. To compare, Tesla sold about 200,000 vehicles in the US last year. Toyota offers non hybrid versions of its most powerful cars but customers are opting for the hybrids in droves. makes you think... Another bombshell in the EV world made public today. In Holland the Ionity company ( high speed chargers in highway petrolstations) announced an increase in price valid as from today. The average price to charge your batteries to full was about 8 euro to full. This is going to forty seven ( 47 ) euro .....

Announced this week. Lexus warranty on new cars in the Netherlands now from 3 to 5 years and from 60k to 200k km. Quite a step up. Could be European wide? will UK follow?

May i suggest two different horns, one for normal road use and another one for dreaming pedestrians or children not aware of the silent and approaching car? This second horn should of course be more silent as it should only be heard from a short distance. In order to save our feathered friends maybe it would be best if the sound of a duck in despair would appear after pushing the button?

Things have spiralled into a true Christmas bonanza for Tesla in The Netherlands.. Fiscal stimulation will change as from jan 01 and taxing wil go from 4 to 8% on EVs ( ICE 22%). this has created a sales explosion never seen before and everybody of course needs to have their car registered and delivered before 31/12. So far Tesla delivered 18000 cars this year and until years end 12000 model 3s need to follow. This is done in a military style operation. Per ship 3750 cars. Boat arrives from the states on monday is unloaded and cars stay on quay where they are cleaned and polished. All this on the monday. Next day owners turn up report in portacabin are handed papers, keys and licence plate and drive off. Cars are not even fully charged. This takes 2 days. Thursday next boat arrives and it repeats itself. No dealers nor showroom, no middle man, no service and still everybody happy....... of course all this is caused by fiscal stimulation, if cars are very cheap people will come in droves. However if EVs were not liked due to allsorts of reasons the situation would be different i guess. I personally liked humming along on batterypower in my IS and i can only hope the next IS will also be offered in full EV. Toyota seems late to the party but especially Lexus seems suited for electrification. NVH, image it all seems to fit. Here is hoping...

check it out its great and seems to catch the true sole and spirit of the car ( and the brand?)

i blame the US legal system really.. What!! that car overtaking me was way bigger than in my mirror and you Lexus did not warn me about that so you are the fault of my accident. Iĺl sue you for 20 million!

Something does not add up, does it. If you drive a Pagani you know servicing needs to be done in the works in Italy. But that is a handbuild supercar. The LC is unique in its own way but built by the Toyota Motor Corporation with a network of dealers in any country. And they cant repair the paint?? Maybe you need to send the car to Japan? Why not contact Lexus headoffice and talk their m/d about this bizarre situation?

i think legislation could well ban the use of exisiting petrol or diesels. congestion charge could spread to all major cities and exactly that is a fine tool to stear old diesels away. For instance pre 2010 diesels, or all cars that emit over X grams. Some German cities already gone that far that diesels are not allowed in inner cities/ some streets. This can easily be tightened. next step could be to remove all traffiic bar EV from inner cities, have goods deliveries in certain timeslots by small EV trucks etc etc. Legislation can also make it less attractive financially to own or use petrol or diesel vehicles by drastically increasing roadtax ( In Holland a diesel powered Range Rover Sport will already cost you over 200 Euro. Per Month.) Legislation can and will be used to force people into government policies. Maybe we should all buy a 1972 Ford USA Truck with an old school 5.2ltr V8 and never sell it. That will be the most environmental friendly means of transport?

irst guess EV acceptance will differ per country. Overhere ( Holland) the vast majority of new car sales are companycars, beeing lease or just bought. The larger companies/multinationals, banks, insurancecompanies etc have already been limiting choice on C02 for years now. Started at 120grams ( over 120 not allowed ) and over the years this was reduced in steps. The first company has now announced that from next year only EVs are allowed. It goes faster than people think... To push drivers into EV fiscal stimulation is readily available and every petrolstation on the highway has EV charging. And all big hotels. And most company carparcs, and innercities etc. This is rolling out at an ever faster pace. The Tesla 3 is the best selling car this year.... With a avalanche of EVs hitting the market next year i am convinced that it will reach the private car market as well, prices are falling rapidly. Diesel is dead for new car sales. I would not buy one try to shift it in 4 yrs time.....

interesting review and it seems to confirm the general perception that it is a very good car indeed. You might know already thet the Tesla 3 is the best selling car in the netherlands this year, it is literally everywhere. Charging infrastructure is more or less keeping up with demand with 12000 Echargers in the country. Every highway petrolstation also has E chargers and these are now all updated to high power charging. Most offices have chargers as well as parkings. And of course you can install your own at home. Fiscal stimulation of companycars of course is the explanation of the popularity. Beeing full EV get delivery of the car this year you pay 4% ( instaed of 22%). So, suppose the cost of the car is 55k then 4% = 2200 euro. this is added onto your income and taxed with 52% ( if in highest tax bracket) so 2200 x 52% = 1144 divided by 12 months is 95 euro per month. And for that you can drive where you want in a brandnew tesla.

you want to be 100% sure you get the money and he gets the car. Any European bank offers instant transfer service. This will cost a bit more but the money will be transferred from his bank into your account within 1 or 2 hrs. I suggest he inspects the car makes the transfer you both go for lunch and when your bakn confirms money in you release the car. Alternative is he takes the funds in the UK from his bankaccount in cash. If he has the money that will be possible maybe he will have to inform the local bank that is what will happen as he wants to buy a car but it is possible. he can than hand you the cash. Better even you both walk into his bank and he instructs his bank to transfer the sum into your account, you will get a confirmation and if this is done with instant service your bank will receive the money instantly. be very careful with any internet based money transfer service!

Renato, thanks for your time to write up this detailed report. The grey color makes the RC just incredible to look, stare at. The architecural beauty of the design comes out in full and the understated old school coupe shape makes it a timeless beauty. I would park it in the garden and just look at it over a good glass of wine. Hats off to you choice!