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Having an arsenal of diag kit is well and good but if you are giving misleading MOTs and bad health checks from independent garages its not good. *Thank god i am not in Poland..

I saw a lovely 2010 FSPORT, also I am considering a Honda Legend - 2009 ish. Attitude of Merc Owners was staggering. The car had a multitude of faults. Japanese car for me next please.

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in case anyone is interested..... http://www.mbclub.co.uk/forums/general-discussion/208633-cl55-update-pcs.html I wont be touching a MB again ever in my life. Plus the attitude of the people on the forum there is shocking. Sold a lemon and them muppets would not accept. The seller admited it and said my problem now.

clearly this thread is dragged into places it should not go. The main points I was making is that Lexus did not sell very well in the uk and that they are a very good purchase second hand, clearly the subject on manuals and auto is a delicate one here so its best left alone.

Pipe down a bit, I never directly referenced you about saving 200 quid a year or whatever on VED. Your comment on paddle shifts being faster on the auto stick were incorrect and I was only correcting.

If gear changes are quicker why is it slower than the manual. 0-60 and top speed also.

Whatever you say, practically everyone who was interested in my car quoted tax, I had quite a few people who were serious and didn't car about tax. I had 3 of these guys drive it and they all said I want it. Only 1 of them had money to buy it, one guy lost £300 deposit for wasting my time due to not getting funds for it. When the car was sold, about 5 more people approached me on ebay saying is it still for sale. People worry about tax, That's why diesel car sales have rocked over the last decade. Most people unfortunately put things like running costs and such above and beyond actually owning a car for pleasure and thrills, which is where I fall into., my CL55 takes about £90 to fill up and economy is a bit meh, but its a car that will always excite., I could buy a more modern petrol or diesel car for similar money but it would pale into significance of what I have now. . I think people are getting a bit carried away over the Auto box in the IS250, i am in no doubt its very good, but at the end of the day its basically the same car as the manual IS250., Its certainly not a rocket ship and the manual gear box is seriously underrated. I don't think many or any on this forum have manuals. Having control over gear changes is what some people like. Put a K&N Typhoon onto a Manual IS250 and it knocks the Auto for six. Too bad I had the only such car on the forum.

I will never get a diesel car, ever. Lexus had the sense to stop making them at least.

Most of the general motoring population want cars cheap to tax, insure and own. Lexus never were big sellers in the UK, As I already said. Just look at cars sold in UK through from the different marques through the years (2006 to 2014 for example), Lexus are minuscule compared to other brands. Manual Lexus put people off due to the cost to tax them, circa £500 per annum. I am absolutely in no doubt this is the reason people are scared away buying them, I only need to refer to all the people making inquiries to my car I recently sold. Then you get people who know what they are looking for and are not put off my trivial things such as Tax and appreciate the car for what it is, I certainly had a few people in this category who wanted my car but only 1 could come up with the money. I moved into Lexus after a few years with a 2.4 Honda, getting a Lexus seemed logical. My current car is mental but life is short and you only live once. FWIW, Tax on my 500Hp CL55 AMG is less than £300 per annum.... no idea how they work these things out.

People in England just don't know, or care about Lexus. Lexus themselves don't care as their main market is Asia and the USA. The UK is minuscule for sales. Second hand IS1250s are probably the best used cars you can get - pound for pound, do people know this? nope. The fact manuals can be got so cheap is even more ridiculous, £6k for my car was stupidly cheap, the guy who bought it couldn't stop smiling. I could have got near to £7k if I held out ( £6,800 one guy lost out on deposit as he could not get the rest of the funds) but I was travelling away on a business trip around the time I slashed the price, plus I had a new car to collect. The used car market is swamped with vehicles in the UK, Hence prices so competitive. Mainland Europe is a different story entirely, this is why I could snap up a car like a CL55 in the first place. A similar car would cost over 20k Eu in mainland Europe. http://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id=221960786&isSearchRequest=true&scopeId=C&damageUnrepaired=NO_DAMAGE_UNREPAIRED&minFirstRegistrationDate=2003-01-01&maxFirstRegistrationDate=2004-12-31&makeModelVariant1.makeId=17200&makeModelVariant1.modelId=41&pageNumber=1#

not sure what relevance you had to add, the CL55 is an awesome car and will leave most cars for dust. Its not for people who are concerned on tax differences of ca. £200 a year however.

cant help shoving your nose in can you, doubt it would have got 8k private, I saw manuals for 8k from a lexus dealer and they were not even 2008. People here really are deluded with manuals / autos, I hope the present owner pops on here to give his thoughts. From owners of is250 autos here you would think they had 400+ hp V8s, the performance is pretty identical to manuals, the best thing of the latter is that the driver can have control of the engine, not a ecu. Most people here prefer autos due to cheaper tax, loads of people who contacted me mentioned tax. If someone complains about a few hundred quid a year on tax, how can they afford decent rear tyres.

I agree that the Lexus is250 is not well known, aside from the people who own them the general public dont know much about them. I sold mine for 6k and it was a SEL with only 64k miles, 2008. I reduced the price loads as I had a new car purchased. Its a terrific car though, a bit gutless but certainly very pleasant to drive and the toys in the SEL trim are excellent.

been to Scotland myself, drove around much of that area and did isle of Skye and orkney also. Being Irish myself its up there with the great scenery of my homeland.

Cheers, its a monster and I dont just mean in size . Nice too to drive one of these as they are very rare. I need to get it cleaned, not had time since collecting.

So, I collected this over the weekend. 2 things Blimey, this is fast. Shell club points will rapidly increase This is a serious lump of a car and it feels huge but its surprisingly easy to drive around town. Will remain to be seen how much this costs to run but its certainly some beast to be driving. Did I say its fast?

Mind you there is absolutely nothing wrong with a manual is250. I am amazed no one here wants them. With the induction kit it easily out performs the automatic in terms of drivers feedback. You decide when to shift gears, more control.

Could have easily got more but I wanted it sold asap. Am travelling on business all week and didn't want the hassle of an extra car lying around. You don't know the care and quality maintenance carried out on it. Everyone who looked at it wanted it but only one guy produced the cash. One guy agreed to buy at 6800GBP but couldn't get the cash, I kept his deposit. BMW and Merc are seriously over rated. Might be ironic getting a Merc but the CL55 AMG is a special car.

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well, it was all a bit crazy. One guy paid a deposit and basically said he couldn't pat the rest , que me waiting a few weeks. I reduced the price alot and had more views, another bloke wednesday wanted it but said he would pay next week. Then a guy from North Ireland said them magic words, 'I can pay tomorrow, on the spot' He sent a message now, said he loves the car and no faults. Someone picked up a great deal. What a great car that was. The Merc is awesome, I have never driven a car with that much power or torque in my life so it needs to be handled with care that

Sad times but my IS250 (manual) has been sold, quite a few people wanted it but many were faffing about with money, in the end a bloke flew direct from N.Irl to meet me and just bought the car on the spot. Almost 2 years I owned that car and it never once let me down, I am actually petrified of getting into the CL55. I have not time to collect it yet but will next week. Lexus are seriously underrated in the UK, particuarly the IS250.

the whole thing is that the diesel is very bad compared to the petrol to drive, I never realised you were in Belgium. I would take both for an (extended) drive and that will let you decide much quicker i will gather. Petrol Lexus is probably the most reliable car you can get, I recently sold a 250 SEL and I had it 2 years, only thing I ever changed (aside from spark plugs at 50k) was a water pump and that was more preventative than anything else.

there is a reason they stopped making 220Ds, putting a D4D tractor engine into a IS250 chassis was never going to work.