Stuno1

Not used much? That is unique and amusing.

6 minutes ago, Flytvr said:

EVO says 15kg. 

I suspect they are comparing the RCF-CE against a standard car with Flinstone diff 😜

An ok so tvd is lighter than rock based dif? To be fair with just back box change that’s 30kg weight saving which is not to be sniffed at. 

3 minutes ago, Flytvr said:

People compare the base RCF’s weight against the RCF-CE, but don’t include the TVD etc. You can only compare cars when spec is like to like - as Ratty’s example of the M3.

So how much smokes the CE actually weigh? Even Lexus site says it’s only 9.5kg lighter than the stock car.

Do you have the cf rcf weight correct? Isn’t it 10kg less than the stock rcf? Either way it’s splitting hairs. Pretty sure I mentioned it on here that when looking at the v8 c63 coupe weight it was 1725kg. That made me look more closely at the rcf. Also as mentioned previously 5th gear to a series of 3 head to head rests with the rcf and m4 and the rcf did epically well. It is to my mind the best package compared to rivals. People are hung up on German cars and have been for years and for me it puts me off them just like it does with Porsche.

I really do believe the rcf will go down as an epic car. Just like the isf is starting to. Many conversations on PH about the rcf and not one owner shoots it down. I like buying the ‘underdog’ especially when it is actually not! To be fair tonlexus they added some bad ***** brakes to the car when bmw didn’t anyway i digress.

We know what they are, how capable they are, how well made they are, how reliable they are etc. That’s what matters. I am sure when I buy one the most common question will be ‘why didn’t you buy and m3 or c63’ but I will be happy in the knowledge the person asking the question has not researched the cars in question and as such probably has no idea what they are missing.

1 hour ago, tomRCFcarbon said:

My browser was out of sync with the thread, so apologies for the slightly random comment in amongst chat about alloy wheels and whether they constitute a modification or not...anyhow, suffice to say I went to see the car above that is now in Tunbridge Wells - and its lovely. It is in the showroom - so ring ahead if you want a test drive and also it has that nasty stonechip that you might want looked at...IMHO the constrasting bonnet looks immense (if a little MAX Power) and the wheels look correct

So you think the silver and carbon combo worked? Looks odd in pics.

7 minutes ago, Jamalaya said:

Good morning all,

So I got myself an Garmin 45 dashcam. I also ordered the hardwiring kit.

Halford say they will install for 30 quids.

So I went to Lexus dealer, who demanded 430 quids. why? 

Yes they have to hide it under the trim and connect it to a fuse. All the videos I have seen takes about an hour top if you are lazy with a can of beer in one hand.

How can they justify that?

 

They can’t. Dealer mark up. You can pay someone to come and do it at your house. That’s what I’ll be doing again on my next car.

The odd thing is when folk say ‘nice car’ as if you designed or built it you almost feel guilty for saying thanks.

3 minutes ago, Big Rat said:

@Tfp In the last 11 months I've had 4 people pm for information I may or may not have on that car, and all 4 went to view and test drive it, none of whom bought it.

The reasons were many and varied not all of which were directly attributed to the car.

Big Rat

Interesting. Not a great conversion rate.

Exclusivity is a massive and underestimated element of car ownership. Loved it with many of my cars. It’s a bizzare but nice feeling when people say they like a car or take interest in it. 

Guys I love it and want one and will buy one just saying it should have been lighter. 

3 minutes ago, Linas.P said:

I personally, don't have problem with the weight, nor I ever intend to drive RC-F if I ever have one (or shall I say when I have it) on the track anyway. However, the context was that press and public misunderstood the car... they took it as "sports car" and compared it with BMW M4 on the track... which makes no sense.

I am sick of journalist comparing RC-F Carbon with BMW "Competition Pack"... because they think that Carbon is "track version of RC-F" and as such comparable with BMW which has like £10000 optional ceramic brakes and is much lighter.... No! it is not comparable. If car journalists gets it wrong.. then it is pointless to talk about common Joe... Maybe that is not even Lexus fault (less RC-F Carbon), just bloody journalists cannot get it - it is not Track car, what it lacks in performance it returns in luxury .. 

Issue is Lexus touted it as a track car and that is why those comparisons were made. 

7 minutes ago, Flytvr said:

I’ve spent more time in the Exige than the Evora. Yes, Lotus peg the Evora as a softer car - but trust me, your average Lexus driver would label the Evora as a confused track car. Lotus would have been better off leaving Porsche deal with that  market.

Anyway, I’m sure you’re driving skills exceed most others, but I maintain that most of us, on the road, driving sensibly will have no issues with the weight the RCF carries.

Lotus to RCF - that’s ummmmmmm, a big change in direction 🤷‍♀️ 

Aye and not one intended to make but apparently we need to own a house... stupid wife. I need a fun rwd coupe that my 5 year old daughter can fit in the back of. Believe me that limits my choice massively! Until I can move to a 2 seater there is not much choice about. I loved my isf and am not a brand fan boy but have a soft spot for Lexus. We are also looking at a nx as a family car as well. The ownership of Lexus is ace. Reliable, built well, great dealerships, well specked etc. 

Each car I buy has a set of criteria and for now the rcf ticks the most boxes. 

I thought the Evora was a great car and I am glad they make it. I didn’t want a 911 and the Evora was the only other choice. It was superb in a drive to the ring and on the ring it’s self. Also, took golf clubs and my daughter when needed. Build quality wasn’t quite there but that aside I loved it. 

Because this is a car for ALL purposes and was sold as that! Track, GT and B roads and weight plays a massive role in that. Why can people see that? Having done many miles in both and isf and a lotus Evora both are considered track cars and GT cars both go about it differently. The point being I will track the rcf I am ok with the weight which will be noticeable on track but I also like the luxury so am prepared to compromise. Lexus could have made the car lighter like others did. It’s not a bad thing to say this and it’s not meant to offend anyone. 

Agreed. It can hustle the back roads well and is a direct comparison to the rivals but it’s just a bit too fat. The Merc was 1655kg so 100kg lighter than the carbon rcf! That says a lot. They should have done more to lighten the carbon model. Closer to 1500kg would have been ideal.

Changing exhaust (cat back) on the carbon car will reduce weight by another 15kg ish so that 25kg less Getting there! 😂

Just now, Linas.P said:

RC-F Carbon didn't help in that regard either... 

What do you mean chap? Do you mean because that was supposed to be more track focused due to 9.5kg weight reduction. Basically a good burger 😂

As I believe I said before the longer it is around the more it will be appreciated. It is just Lexus got it wrong calling a track car then a road car. That was how it was judged. It can do track work very well but you can’t hide weight. The car will gain more and more love the longer it is around. Interesting comments about the attention it got. As a package and ownership experience, like the isf and gsf, it can’t be beaten even when compared with rivals. 

Thank you for posting the article.

Also only reading the comments did I realise it is a sequence of ‘l’ on the wheel. Actually a nice touch like the front lights. 

33 minutes ago, Big Rat said:

So I see the 15 Plate White Rcf at Cheltenham is now reserved...... that didn't take long about a week 🤔

Big Rat

That time of year. Toy/sports cars fly out up until June/July then sales slow again and are glacial by October. 

2 minutes ago, rayaans said:

The RC-F Carbon wheels did become an option at some point on the Standard RC for about £995 I think. Only 1 non-carbon has had them fitted that I know of.

From a weight perspective not sure why people would not option them if there were a no cost option. 

Ah didn’t realise the star ones were carbon! Nice. 

10 hours ago, Rusty Crobar said:

I Don't think they do the RC any favours. GSF wheels are my favourite lexus rims (although the design makes them look smaller than they really are), closely followed by the RCF carbon ones 😋

Carbon wheels? Am I missing s trick here? There are the ones that look like loads of tuning forks and the forged ones that have the odd star shape design with multiple spokes.

It does raise a good point. I read on PH )I think) someone could not drive the m4 all the time because it is too twitchy and is hard work. On a blast it was said to be fun but to get the power down and actually enjoy the car the rcf was the better option. There are so many cars with mega power not but it counts for nothing if you can’t lay it down. On all the rcf vs m4 clips on YouTube you can see how much harder the drivers are working in the m4 due to the torque and it wanting to step out. The rcf by comparison does almost identical times with far less harassment.  

I like the black accents on the rear crease and front badge triangle but. I’ll also be wrapping the chrome on the window trim dark, smoking the rear reflectors, removing the ‘Lexus’ badge from the rear and making the Lexus ‘L’ and ‘rc’ chrome badges black. 

Congrats. You have now bought eyes fully open and that’s the key. Look forward to your impressions and enjoy the collection. 

I can’t decide if the silver and carbon works? I think it would be one to see in person to make my mind up.