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Just in case you need to know Mike. https://www.nationalasbestos.co.uk/news/can-i-claim-for-asbestos-exposure/#:~:text=If you have been diagnosed,back at a time that

Thanks Umar. I learn daily.

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I`m with you john in so far as I thought I knew how the World worked,but now I`ve forgotten ! This incline towards Octogenarianship gets steeper daily. ROTFL means what John?

Lexus Dealer will change key batteries at annual service f.o.c. if you ask him Norman.

1964 ?

So sorry to read that Mike. I hope that it is controllable and enables you to enjoy a reasonable quality of life.

Many thanks Renato. Your Posting reminded me of the following, >>>> In ancient Greece (469 - 399 BC), Socrates was widely >>>> lauded for his wisdom. One day the great philosopher >>>> came upon an acquaintance, who ran up to him excitedly >>>> and said, "Socrates, do you know what I just heard about >>>> one of your students...?" >>>> >>>> "Wait a moment," Socrates replied. "Before you tell >>>> me, I'd like you to pass a little test. It's called >>>> the Test of Three." >>>> >>>> "Test of Three?" >>>> >>>> "That's correct," Socrates continued. >>>> >>>> "Before you talk to me about my student let's take a >>>> moment to test what you're going to say. The first >>>> test is Truth. Have you made absolutely sure that what >>>> you are about to tell me is true?" >>>> >>>> "No," the man replied, "actually I just heard about it." >>>> >>>> "All right," said Socrates. "So you don't really know >>>> if it's true or not. Now let's try the second test, >>>> the test of Goodness. Is what you are about to tell me >>>> about my student something good?" >>>> >>>> "No, on the contrary..." >>>> >>>> "So," Socrates continued, "you want to tell me >>>> something bad about him even though you're not certain >>>> it's true?" >>>> >>>> The man shrugged, a little embarrassed. >>>> Socrates continued, "You may still pass though because >>>> there is a third test - the filter of Usefulness. Is what you >>>> want to tell me about my student going to be useful to me?" >>>> >>>> "No, not really..." >>>> >>>> "Well," concluded Socrates, "if what you want to tell >>>> me is neither True nor Good nor even Useful, why tell >>>> it to me at all?" >>>> >>>> The man was defeated and ashamed and said no more. >>>> >>>> This is the reason Socrates was a great philosopher >>>> and held in such high esteem. >>>> >>>> It also explains why Socrates never found out that >>>> Plato was banging his wife.

I`m not sure that he has a driving licence ! anyone know ?

and Spacewagon 52 too !

Excellent Davey. You have now revealed yourself to be a s.c.a.p. member. Piers is El Presidente.

Current Members Piers Herbie Vlad Me Barry14 UK ? Peniole ?

excellent news old pal and President Elect of the Honourable Company of s.c.a.p. members !

admirable. john williams (s.c.a.p.) member,

Why is is that experienced and knowledgeable people NEVER buy the first cars from the first production run ?

Yes, but please do not be complacent CB .

I think that you are very sure Ed. Smart cookies and wise old owls spell trouble. This move towards EV smells of calamity to me and the people best placed to profit/benefit from it are the Chinese who are ready to flood the market with low cost and reliable vehicles. Watch VW hit the buffers if it is not extremely careful. And if it goes,then so does the the Western Economy. All it takes for evil to triumph is for Politicians to do nowt and for the Americans to retreat to their Bunkers.!

You could have fooled me. Anyway we must simply agree to differ.

Where is the evidence to justify the statement "a lot of EV drivers bought the cars because they liked them" BB ?

Tony Banks of Leeds will assist you. I`m sure that Ant is familiar with him.https://www.tonybanks.co.uk/

I thank you Sir.

If it floats your boat, then grab it with both hands. If it does not ,then follow the advice of CB.

All good stuff, Vlad. The comment that was uppermost in my mind throughout was the one made by Herbie, "like peeing over razor blades" and boy, was he right !

Electric car owners have been duped by big government Gone are the lovely incentives. Now we are being coerced into going electric, and face huge taxes while doing so ROSS CLARK18 November 2022 • 12:21pm So much for electric cars being cheaper to run than petrol or diesel ones. As owners are about to discover, following Jeremy Hunt’s announcement that electric cars will be subject to vehicle excise duty from 2025, the main reason for their apparently low running costs is that these vehicles are excused from the hefty taxes levied on petrol and diesel models. Once electric cars are brought into the realm of vehicle excise duty a different picture will start to emerge. And it won’t just be vehicle excise duty. There is no way that Hunt is going to sit back and watch as £26 billion worth of fuel duty disappears as people are forced to switch to electric vehicles – he is going to find a way of making that up, too, most likely through road pricing. The favourable tax position enjoyed by electric vehicles will come to be seen as nothing more than a limited time, introductory special offer. Just as with diesel cars, people who were encouraged to buy them through government incentives have been conned. The Autumn Statement marked the end of those enticements – and the beginning of coercion. It is now clear: there is no way, on current technology, that electric cars are going to sell themselves to the masses. You can point to data from the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders (SMMT) showing that sales of electric cars in October were 23.4 per cent up on the same month in 2021, yet their market share has stalled at around 15 per cent (it actually fell a little from 15.2 per cent to 14.8 per cent between last October and this). Electric cars are going down a treat with well-off, urban-based drivers who want to show off their eco credentials. They make good second cars for driving around cities, especially with the proliferation of low emission zones. Yet just like Grant Shapps, who admitted a couple years ago to owning a 25 mpg Chrysler Crossfire as well as a Tesla, such drivers will often keep petrol or diesel cars for longer journeys. For the rest of us, electric vehicles remain very expensive to buy and are only cheaper to run if you ignore the fact that 60 per cent of the cost of road fuel is tax. They don’t travel enough on a charge, they take too long to recharge and rely on a very sporadic network of chargers. If, like 8 million British households, you don’t have off-street parking in reach of your own electricity socket, they offer only hassle. That will remain the case until someone invents a battery which costs no more to build than a petrol engine, can travel 500 miles between charges and takes five minutes to recharge. But this doesn’t seem to enter the Government’s calculations. It is so determined to reach its net zero target that it is going to force electric vehicles on us no matter what. Initially it offered a carrot, but now Hunt has produced a large stick. From 2035 electric cars will be the only ones allowed to be sold – and by then they will be taxed just like any other car. We are being driven speedily to an age in which motoring returns to being the preserve of the wealthy.

Brilliant.