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12 hours ago, B1RMA said:

Most of the comments I have read and watched, the latest 5th Gear team tested one and it seems most people think it's not got enough Supra stuff in it. I also read somewhere that there was a recall in the USA for the Supra I admit I don't know the true facts. I think a lot of the negative comments came from the fact that the initial car in concept was fabulous looking. Then when it arrived in the flesh a general mood of disappointment was noted.

deep down i think they may have regretted the decision of using BMW engine in the new Supra even though it was a co development by both manufactures to keep development costs down. now that's not me saying Germans cannot build engines but i think most hard core Japanese sports car enthusiasts got a bit heart broken when they found out it was a BMW engine.. and i can somewhat understand where they coming from.. if they buy a Japanese car, they want to see made in Japan written all over it..   

if Toyota are not interested in developing a new in house Twin Turbo V8 and intending to borrow from another manufacturer, Nissan or Honda should be where they must be looking that's if i was their chief engineer. i think most hardcore Japanese car enthusiast might be ok with that rather than if it came from BMW. Most were saying things like "If i wanted a BMW, i would by a BMW" 

 

Shame they didn't go AMG. Good enough for me (and Aston Martin) 😁

Whatever they do, lets hope they don't use stupid augmentation like they do in the RC-F and GS-F!!

is V8 even necessary? Nissans VR38DETT V6 engine still wipes its bum with with pretty much any V8 engines from the Germans. and even though i have never been lucky to drive a Nissan GTR, their V6 sounds awesome when they fly by you..

Sounds like BMW N63 engine might be making its way under a Lexus Bonnet.. 

4 hours ago, Wisemonkey said:

I suppose the moral of the tale is buyer be aware, do not pay over the odds and factor in a major service just after purchase, with a trusted independant.

My brand new car is not going to be MDS as they do precious little and charge huge amounts. I keep proof a VAT reg garage  does the service as per the book and use original parts.

BTW the Lexus SC looks a cracker !

 

And this is what i always tend to do each and every time i buy a car.. i ignore what ever is in the service book and redo all fluids, filters and plugs again just so i know it has really been done.

1 hour ago, Fishboy said:

I work with a number of people who say to me how can you afford to run a car like that and yet they spend  thousands over the years on their BMW and Audi PCP deals. Nowt so strange as folk.

PCP is false economy in most cases.

I guess in more cases than not, the Human eye and right foot will make a better call.. 

https://www.lexusofatlanticcity.com/precautions-dynamic-radar-cruise-control/

PRECAUTIONS: DYNAMIC RADAR CRUISE CONTROL

May 26th, 2018 by Lexus of Atlantic City

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PRECAUTIONS: DYNAMIC RADAR CRUISE CONTROL

Dynamic Radar Cruise Control(9) is a system primarily for driving on expressways and highways. With regard to traffic conditions on general roads, there are cases where it will not operate appropriately and could lead to an accident. In these situations, do not use Dynamic Radar Cruise Control. Dynamic Radar Cruise Control (9) operation is dependent on the millimeter-wave radar’s ability to detect a preceding vehicle, as well as the detectability of the preceding vehicle itself. While driving, the driver will need to continually pay attention to the distance between vehicles with the leading vehicle and surroundings, and decelerate and accelerate themselves to ensure the distance between their vehicle and preceding or following vehicles is safe. Situations such as a broken, dirty, ice, rain, snow, film, or sticker-covered front Lexus emblem blocking the radar, all may affect Dynamic Radar Cruise Control (9) operation.

IN THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS, DYNAMIC RADAR CRUISE CONTROL (9) MAY LEAD TO AN UNEXPECTED ACCIDENT, SO DO NOT USE THE SYSTEM:

1. Bad weather conditions, such as rain, fog, snow or a dust storm

• When the system judges the weather to be bad, there are cases where it automatically turns OFF

2. Raindrops, snow, ice, road debris, or film/metal coatings on the millimeter-wave radar sensor (badge or cover)

• If the system detects filth, it may automatically turn OFF

Other:

• Roads with a lot of traffic or around a sharp curve
• Slippery road surfaces, such as icy or snowy roads
• Steep Inclines
• Traffic conditions leading to frequent acceleration and deceleration
• When leaving lane while on an expressway, etc.
• When the vehicle is being towed

IN THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS, THE SYSTEM IS NOT ABLE TO ACCURATELY DETECT LEADING VEHICLES AND MAY NOT BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN APPROPRIATE DISTANCE BETWEEN VEHICLES:

1. When the leading vehicle is pulling an empty trailer, etc., making rear surface area very small (including motorcycles)
2. When vehicle angle or stance changes dramatically due to load, changes to suspension, tire pressure, etc.

IN THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS, DETECTION OF THE LEADING VEHICLE MAY BE DELAYED OR MAY NOT BE POSSIBLE:

• When a leading vehicle cuts in front of your vehicle at a close distance
• Motorcycle driving at the edge of the lane

IN THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS, THE SYSTEM MAY INADVERTENTLY OPERATE OR MAY NOT BE ABLE TO DETECT THE LEADING VEHICLE:

1. In a curve or when the lane width is narrow; if a vehicle from another lane is recognized as that of your lane
2. When the leading vehicle is driving at the edge of the lane and is not in the detection area

Other:

• When the leading vehicle leaves the sensor detection area, such as at a curve
• When the leading vehicle leaves the sensor detection area due to steering input

THE SYSTEM WILL NOT OPERATE IN THE FOLLOWING CONDITION:

• If the opposing object is a stopped vehicle or a leading vehicle with a speed dramatically slow compared to your own vehicle

This section is abbreviated and does not include all precautions or limitations.
Refer to a Lexus Owner’s Manual for a more comprehensive description of system operation, precautions and limitations.

i think if you read my comments again i did mentioned i'm all for safety driver aids in a car. and i'm in no was dis regarding ACC and its safety capabilities... i personally put my trust in my eyes to do the road condition monitoring and my right foot to do the stopping before i put it in the hands of ACC...  but this is not taking anything away from it being a safety driving aid feature..

i'm all for any in car technology that helps save lives...  the question is how were we driving cars safely on the roads before the invention of  Active Cruise Control in cars? although these technologies are are all well and good i personally feel like the somewhat remove some driver intuition senses which may be there if these driving aids was not present in the car.

ACC could malfunction at any time and fail to sense a car ahead, and thus not preventing a collision but the human eye focusing ahead when driving will never fail to spot or sense a collision about to happen. how close one was behind the car ahead, how fast one was travelling and ones reaction time could come into question. but the human eye focusing ahead when driving will never malfunction. it will always detect a possible collision even at a longer range before ACC detects this. 

regarding the LS460, no car should rattle when travelling up hill. best to go inspect and test drive it and you can be the judge... 

so long as everything is mechanically sound when you go to view/drive it  i.e no weird/ strange sounds from engine bay, no oil/ water leaks, and gearbox shifts through all gears then nothing to really worry about..just get him to knock the price down due to not having evidence of service and money saved from that could be used to have all fluids and filters changed.  see below

engine oil, gearbox oil, engine coolant, brake fluid, diff fluid, air filter,pollen filter, spark plugs

all above does not have to be done in one go. most important is engine oil and gearbox oil change and rest can be done at a later stage.. 

also get a free visual under body inspection done at any garage to check brakes, suspension, tyre and exhaust condition. if all is good then 

job done.

This guy right here makes you all look like amateurs  😎

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201911294869300?price-to=6000&model=GS 250&onesearchad=New&onesearchad=Nearly New&onesearchad=Used&price-from=3000&radius=200&postcode=mk160ay&advertising-location=at_cars&make=LEXUS&sort=relevance&page=1

8 minutes ago, Malc said:

someone's just raised a separate thread

Driving through a Flood

and catastrophic results for him with his hybrid 

Malc

i can understand why Internal Combustion Engine technology have lasted so long.. even F1 drivers are not sold on thier 1.6 litre hybrid electric engines they prefer the high revving non hybrid V6, V8 and V10's raw engines

as it stands, Petrol and petrol Hybrid still dominates in the British new car market sales.. below are figures.. as you can see, petrol cars still take up a 66% market share of all new cars registered in UK for 2019 and Mild Hybrid Electric Vehicles (MHEV) had a % change of over 500% when compared to its 2018 figures.. this proves  people are still not sold on 100% electric cars yet as figures stands.

https://www.best-selling-cars.com/britain-uk/2019-half-year-britain-best-selling-car-brands-and-models/

sorry to hear..  sounds like she was doing some speed to cause this type of impact.. i have gone down from a MK2 GS430 with same engine as yours to a GS300 V6 and can asure you the difference in power delivery its not much between the two. the V6 is just as smooth as the V8, it sounds sporty on full throttle and mpg is better due to being direct injected.. I personally wont put my life dependant on ACC so prefer to use my foot brake when i get closer to a moving car than let the technology make that decision for me.. but that's me...

the smoothness of a Lexus makes it feel as if you ain't going fast when you actually are. 70 mph on my current and previous Lexus's feels like i'm doing 40 mph which model of merc do you currently have? obviously, the IS250 will feel under powered if your merc is a more powerful model. engine and gearbox are bullet proof but make sure is has had a decent service history.. parts like O2 sensors, radiator, and exhaust will start getting tired and will need changing so look out for those. they also chain driven engines so don't require cambelt change

On 11/3/2019 at 8:48 PM, rich1068 said:

 I'm not entirely convinced of the fashion of gearbox oil changes/flushes so today was oil, oil filter and plugs. 

 

I will say still get a gearbox oil change done. not a full flush but just a drain and refill.. 

I think when it comes to second hand cars the less previous owners a car has the better or less problems one is likely to encounter but this is not always the case. full service history is always is must and nothing wrong with a £5000 Lexus 460 its just to do with age, depreciation and demand so long as it has had 1 or possibly two previous owners, has had a full service history and MOT history looks good then i see nothing wrong. of course main hing like engine and gearbox needs to also be in good condition with signs of no leak or shift problems.

of course being a 2007/2008 which makes it 11-12 years old with over 100,000 miles on the clock will definitely need things like suspension parts  and radiator needing replacing due to wear and tear as these parts are for most part engineered to last at least 10 years or up to 100,000 miles. this does not apply to all car brands but i noticed most Japanese cars are engineered this way.

for example: i always hear most people say spending something like say £1k or £2k changing or fixing up a second hand car worth say £2 or £3k is waste and its throwing money away as you wont make it back when you come to sell it on. but i see people spend £25k or £35k on a PCP or PCH finance and they never get to own the car. is that not throwing even more money away? 

i see it like this, if you like the 460 and its in good condition by all means budget for the likelihood of changing suspension parts and get the radiator changed as a precaution even if it sets you back another £2K - £3K... it will drive better and give you a better experience than majority of 2019 luxury cars on the road today..

from my memory on when i had my IS300 i believe there are 3 senors in total and not 4. that is 2 pre-cat sensors that is Bank 1 sensor 1 and Bank 2 sensor 1 and 1 post cat sensor which is just a rear sensor and it does not belong to any bank per say . i have attached an image from Denso to help you.

http://densoautoparts.com/Portals/DensoAutoParts/Resources/file/DENSO O2 Sensor troubleshooting tips.pdf

if SUV is not your cup of tea and are into saloons the GS300 V6 or GS250 V6 has identical boot space to an RX. below are the figures i found but could be inaccurate

2005 -  2011 GS300/GS430 = 430 litres

2012-2018 GS250 = 450 litres

2009 - 2015 RX450h = 446 litres

as you can see there is not much of a difference between the saloon and SUV interns of boot space.

a bit pricey but seems in good condition low mileage and big jobs has already been done. i will be happy to pay £4.5K for it.. considering you can have MK3's GS300'450h's for around the same price unless you really want a MK2

2 hours ago, rich1068 said:

I can understand engine choice being a factor in choosing or rejecting a car but infotainment system? For me that really does not make sense. 

But the world would be a boring place if we were all the same. Even if the sheer number of German soot boxes out there does indeed show that many people do like being the same!

Tell me about it... gone are the days when one gets into a car to actually drive it and enjoy it for what it is.. now a small thing such as screen size can be a deal breaker if one wants to buy a car or not.. but hey its their money their choice right...

have you tried comparison websites by any chance? i remember reading a blog sometime ago about best times to get insurance quotes like doing it out of office hours like from 7pm rather than office hours, buying it 30 days before, not getting quotes on weekends.. now how true this is i don't know as anyone can type anything on the net these days...

hi @Foulsbane which garage in Leicestershire fitted your suspensions for you. i'm considering getting the rear ones replaced on my GS. cheers..

17 hours ago, cruisermark said:

So what I'm asking is does anyone know what wire is connected where - there are 4 wires and secondly can anyone recommend a decent garage around Beds/Bucks area who would be willing to tackle this job.

 

 

i had my 02 sensor replaced at Jem Lexus up in north London its about 45mins drive from beds/bucks area they are certified Suzuki dealership and have Lexus trained technicians so they know their way around one.. I have had my 02 sensor replaced by them and my brake fluid, rear diff fluid and gearbox fluid all done by them with no issues.. so worth the drive.

email or give them a call for a fitting quote.. mine was £75 to fit after i supplied the part... link below was where i sourced mine.. see if they stock ones for LS..

http://jemlexus.co.uk/

https://www.sparkplugs.co.uk/denso-direct-fit-lambda-sensor-dox-0541

On 7/5/2019 at 7:00 PM, Gramate said:

I'm on a 3 year PCP, it was my understanding I ha e to have a Lexus dealer service my car as part of the contract. 

 

someone correct me if i'm wrong but is this not what the EU Motor Block Exemption set out to prevent? 

quote from below article.

"Prior to 2003, automobile owners in the EU region risked nullifying their vehicle warranties when the vehicles were serviced or repaired in workshops not belonging to the vehicle manufacturer or its dealers. This barrier was broken in October 2003, when the European Commission (EC) passed the Block Exemption Regulation law allowing vehicle owners the freedom of having their servicing and repairs done at their chosen workshop."

https://pagid.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/TMD1331-Block-Exemption-Sheet.pdf

of course nothing against using Lexus Dealer if that's what you want but i dont think you had to use them if you didn't want to for annual oil changes and visual checks. in order to keep your warranty

mostly nothing to worry about on a 100k + Lexus so long as its had a full service history preferably at the dealer but dont be put off by non dealer services as an oil change is an oil change pretty much regardless of who does it.... best to go for car with less owners. 250 engine is chain driven so does not require cam belt change.. make sure the spark plugs has been changed if over 100k else you can negotiate a discount for that.. so long as engine starts ok without hesitation, no signs of leakage from the engine area or radiator area and shifts through gears effortlessly without hesitation then you pretty much good to go.. if you don't really know what to look out for best to pay the AA as they have a service for checking out vehicles for potential buyers and advice what might need changing.. most things like exhaust, radiator and suspension would be nearing replacement pretty much standard for most cars around this age. so  that should be something to keep in mind in your ownership and get those done as a preventative move mainly the radiator. and get the gearbox oil drained and refilled if over 100k..  these are few things to have in mind others on here might add somethings i may have forgotten..