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yeh the F Sport looks aggressive already but I recon the TRD betters it more. just checked out a few of Artisan spirits body kits and they do look good. but the the TRD looks clean, not too in your face with unnecessary aero bits hanging everywhere and makes the IS look different from the competition for sure. looks like its not only for looks as it gets under body and suspension treatments aswell but you wont like the price though. see below link with detailed info http://www.gtspirit.com/2013/05/20/official-2014-lexus-is-series-trd/

looks like Lexus is going all out with the 2014 IS even offering it in TRD spec.. TRD might aswell develop a super charger or Turbo charge kit to go with the 2.5 V6 motor and I might forget about the 350 model not being offered UK. the TRD version definitely needs a boost from the 2.5 engine looks aggressive. I like it. what do others think would you opt for a boosted TRD spec if it was offered in UK to match the looks? the rears even looks better than that of IS-F's too.. http://www.clublexus.com/articles/is-models/is/another-view-f-sport-parts-trd-2014-lexus-is.php

Yes you now hear most hard-core BMW enthusiasts saying modern BMW's don't have the drive feel of the raw E36 and E46 3 series BMW's. most hard-core old school BMer owners in some US forums are now switching to Infiniti G models as its said to have the raw E36, E46 drive and handle feel. most people not in the know or who have not experienced driving a 3 series before always think they are a luxurious car but they are very harsh and raw but take them round corners and only a few cars can keep up with them round the bends and I have seen it for my self with a 330Ci nice handling car but still wont go out and buy one tho way too common for my liking. BMW is now toning the raw harsh feel down and offering more softer cushion like seats and suspension as confirmed by most on their forums and that's not going down well with them either even some dont like the twin turbo setup the 335i has they wanted the engine to stay all NA like a typical BMW. and I think Lexus wants to snatch the no1 handling sport salon car from BMW 3 series and even Infiniti G models to push sales up as most who will be driving the IS don't really want to be pampered with soft ride and cushion seats. they want to take corners very fast,brake very late and feel the road more if you know what I mean and that comes with a harsh ride unfortunately.

to be fare to Lexus, the IS model was not meant to be a Luxury Lexus to begin with. its meant to be a Sporty Saloon than a Luxury one. GS's and LS's cater for more Luxury than Sporty drive hence their seats are more pampering and cushioning. gen1 IS was more of a 'drivers' car Lexus kind of lost that 'drivers' car appeal with the Gen2 which I have test drove the IS250 version and I concluded it was more focused on luxury feel than drive feel. this is not a bad thing for the driver who wants more Luxury than sporty drive, but I have a feeling it didn't go down well with the hard-core sporty drivers so they have reverted back to the character the gen1 had with regards to the way it drove, ride feel, the way it looked and handled. my mate owns a 2001 330Ci and I have driven and rode in it lots of times and every time I get into my IS, it feels like I am floating even with 18" wheels on. another mate of mine owns the 530d in 08 plate and that one has a more softer feel compared to the 01 330Ci which is raw and harsh but sticks like glue round corners but did not ride like a luxury car the 530d does a better job of riding better than the 3 series. rumour and first impression test drives has it the gen3 IS handles better than the latest 3 series BMW minus the M3 models of course but the IS250's and 350's are said to be better round corners and braking than 325i and 335i BMW's so my guess will be Lexus has sacrificed better ride feel and softer seats for a 3 series beater IS.

As chris said no Is300 sport debate here.. Read my lips again matt.. 'on paper no its not but technically yes it is' what gives it away as a sport? Lowered sport suspension, tinted rear windows, two tone steering, LSD, lip spoiler and sport peddles. Jump off a roof if you cant accept it matt

on paper no it doesn't say Sport but Technically it is a sport model. Chris's TTE IS200 says Sport on his V5 mine doesn't but we both share all parts and spec besides gearbox and engine of course.

says IS300 ... and as its TTE option has the full body kit , 18" Aero's. LSD, two tone steering wheel, tinted rear windows, lip spoiler, sport pedals and Sport suspension same car as Chris

V5 wont lie. if the chassis number on the V5 matches the chassis number on your car and it says IS200 sport on V5, then its a sport model if the V5 does not say IS200 Sport then its not a sport model. only thing a sport model has over the other IS200 models is LSD and lower suspension setup which could translate to it being more lively in and out of corners but not a lot in it as already confirmed, power is the same for all models.

good for him.. trainspotter :D

agree with Petay and Istanbul05 .. the IS still holds its own even when compared to 13 plate cars, its smoother quieter more reliable than most if not many cars, better paint work than most when valeted better looking than most with its ‘fast back’ stance look better braking system than most and I base this on out braking some newer cars out there and am not running brembos, on the right road and fast sweeping bends, the stock handling makes most newer cars look like they all under steer during bends. The IS still carves up corners better than most. Just like any other car, the IS can also be spec’d with the latest all in one touch screen dvd, cd, satnav, parking assistant, mpg monitor after market devices with some daytime running lights thrown in aswell just as Koko did with his IS300 but I personally Don’t watch dvd movies in my car as I hardly stay idle in the car to watch a 90 minute movie. I hardly talk on the phone whilst driving so Bluetooth is not needed by me. I already have a Garmin Satnav which has if not all of the functionalities one gets in a built in satnav of a 13 plate car including mpg readouts, calculator, point of interests, currency convertor not to mention a few I already have HID lights which does the same thing as DRL’s when switched on Still keeps up with traffic, hothatches and reps in 3.0 litre, 3.2 litre modern day BMW’s, Merc’s and Audi engine so can still hold its own on the straight line and corners. Can still extract 35mpg on a constant motorway cruise which is the same if not better than some manual 4 pot 2litre cars hatchbacks get when they are also cruising at 70mph. To me, IS300 is still not far off most 13 plate cars in many aspects. it has the street cred, the reliabilty, the sporty looks(TTE), reasonable fuel consumption on light foot of course and still goes .

Nice 300 you got there, on paper, a SC'd IS200 might race better due to having less weight compared to the IS300 but that's not always the case in real life. gearing and tyres will also play a part as to which will be faster if both produce the same horsepower and has the same suspension setup. only way to find out is to have both cars side by side and race them on a track and who ever has better tyres, better gear ratios and better brakes will end up putting the power down to the wheels more effectively. don't forget the driver has a lot to do with it as well.

shell Nitro v Power averages 31mpg for me at 70mph constant cruise. that's 4 miles town driving and 20 miles motorway commute to work. £50 v power gives me roughly 240miles all worked out manually and not from satnav or on board computer reading. haven't used supermarket fuel before so don't know how it would fare.

@normski didn't go into details about asking how old vehicles were, condition of fuel tanks how old the fuel was etc.. but I am happy to pm you the guys number so you can call him for more info about the tests he's carrying out for Denso and Delphi and how many vehicles he has come across with Supermarket fuel problems.

Yes you right there ChumpusRex, both fuels were drained out of customer vehicles.

Just got been to replace by auto box fluid from a Toyota/Lexus Indie based in Surrey. He also carries out some fuel and engine research work for Denso and Delphi. And I had to take a picture of it. the picture below was his findings when he compared fuel from Tesco and Shell. Both fuels have been let to settle for a week and after re shaking both bottles again in front of me, this is how petrol from Tesco looks like on the right hand side and one from shell on the left hand side. When I got to his garage this morning a customer was just leaving in a T180 diesel Avensis and he confirmed to me the guy had just spent £6000 on his car due to a cracked piston and he also replaced DPF on another customer’s car at a cost of £1500. And he confirmed 60% of all diesel and modern petrol related engine issues are due to Supermarket fuels this guy does not work for Shell, BP, Esso(Mobil,) or Total but confirmed he advises all customers to stay aware from Supermarket fuels. From what I gathered from the discussion we had, he confirmed all fuels sold in EU by law, has to contain a certain percentage of Biofuel and these are fuel derived from plants and other living organisms mainly from farms and over time, parts like fuel tank, injectors, dpf, catalytic convertors etc will start growing these living organisms from these(less additive) fuels resulting in various issues in the engine. He confirmed the fuel additives, cleaning agents, octane boosters added into fuels by Shell, BP, Esso and Total help control these biofuel organisms inside the tank, cylinders, valves, catalyst etc resulting in a smooth running engine, mpg improvement, and longer engine life. He confirmed 90% of his customers who have suffered diesel engine related issues all used supermarket fuels and advised them to switch to branded fuels and occasionally use higher octane diesel and petrol fuels as well if they want to avoid the issues. As I confirmed this guy does not work for any of these branded oil companies so there is no incentive for him advising customers to use Shell, BP , Esso over Tesco, ASDA and Sainsbury’s.. I have always been a Shell , Esso man and currently running BP Ultimate and the engine quite likes it so mite stick with it for a while.

Just got been to replace by auto box fluid from a Toyota/Lexus Indie based in Surrey. He also carries out some fuel and engine research work for Denso and Delphi. And I had to take a picture of it. the picture below was his findings when he compared fuel from Tesco and Shell. Both fuels have been let to settle for a week and after re shaking both bottles again in front of me, this is how petrol from Tesco looks like on the right hand side and one from shell on the left hand side. When I got to his garage this morning a customer was just leaving in a T180 diesel Avensis and he confirmed to me the guy had just spent £6000 on his car due to a cracked piston and he also replaced DPF on another customer’s car at a cost of £1500. And he confirmed 60% of all diesel and modern petrol related engine issues are due to Supermarket fuels this guy does not work for Shell, BP, Esso(Mobil,) or Total but confirmed he advises all customers to stay aware from Supermarket fuels. From what I gathered from the discussion we had, he confirmed all fuels sold in EU by law, has to contain a certain percentage of Biofuel and these are fuel derived from plants and other living organisms mainly from farms and over time, parts like fuel tank, injectors, dpf, catalytic convertors etc will start growing these living organisms from these(less additive) fuels resulting in various issues in the engine. He confirmed the fuel additives, cleaning agents, octane boosters added into fuels by Shell, BP, Esso and Total help control these biofuel organisms inside the tank, cylinders, valves, catalyst etc resulting in a smooth running engine, mpg improvement, and longer engine life. He confirmed 90% of his customers who have suffered diesel engine related issues all used supermarket fuels and advised them to switch to branded fuels and occasionally use higher octane diesel and petrol fuels as well if they want to avoid the issues. As I confirmed this guy does not work for any of these branded oil companies so there is no incentive for him advising customers to use Shell, BP , Esso over Tesco, ASDA and Sainsbury’s.. I have always been a Shell , Esso man and currently running BP Ultimate and the engine quite likes it so mite stick with it for a while.

yeh a dynamic suspension would have been ideal I think the IS350's offer that option not sure about the 250's and the 300h though. 0-60 times are not relevant these days infact I can actually count how many time I have done a 0-60 in my IS300 ever since I have owned it and tbh its not a lot. In gear accelerations is the most important these days and I recon the 300h wont lag behind with its 300NM instant torque delivery from those batteries alone. As Roger confirmed, I am also not sold on Diesels yet due to their unreliability and noise harshness. regardless of what a 330d BMW or 3.0 tdi Audi diesel owner says about how quiet their engines are when warm, their engine will never be as quiet and refined as an IS250 petrol period. I also like a car with reasonable acceleration not super car performance but something which wont lag behind when time calls for it.. I think hybrids are the new turbo/superchargers I recon they will replace these units in a couple of years time ounce manufactures are able to harness more power from them in that it helps make more power from a small displacement engine without any lag and also gives one diesel mpg figures. will def test drive one just to experience it.

I know Petay..the more I look at those brochures the more I want one. I personally don't thik 300h is all show and no go. the thing makes 220bhp from a 4 cylinder. that's same power as a 3litre V6 ST Mondeo and I bet my money it would even out handle it even with a hybrid badge. yes the hybrid system and CVT box does not give one the performance drive appeal (kick down) you get with a sport tiptronic box or ability to chose your own gear ratios in spirited driving but I recon the hybrid motor + CVT does a good job as seen in the bigger 450h's .. the 300h's hybrid motor alone generates 300NM of torque mainly from standstill and that's not with the engines own torque combined. and can return 65mpg on combined driving. am a petrol head and cant believe am looking at mpg but am starting to like the hybrid. maybe will book my self a test drive just for the experience and if I end up liking how it drives might aim for one in a couple of years time. maybe in F-Sport trim.

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No one is getting mad here Dinho and no one says the IS200 is not or does not have the right to be a smooth operator its a Lexus. what Colin, Panya, Lexus22 and myself are saying is, the 300 is a step up from the 200. it did cost slightly more than the 200 when brand new so the extra smoothness and drive feel reflected in the higher cost price when new. as Lexus22 asked have you actually driven an IS300 before? if not drive one to get the feel both in D mode and M PWR modes feel free to play around with the gear shifts on the steering wheel and let us know your findings on how it drives in both modes and also after you got back into the IS200 and drove off.. try this for us Dinho..