Slightly off subject but I think we’ve become a bit blasé about how the reliability/quality has changed over the years. I’ve had many cars since the 1970’s of varying costs from my favourite cheapie (a 1300 Vanden Plas) top spec Volvos. However, in my early motoring days, regardless of cost they all needed ‘regular’ maintenance be it tappet or point adjustments. Perceived quality was what mattered. The expensive cars I had broke down as much as the cheap ones despite the leather and wood! The cheapest Dacia today is probably more reliable than the best ‘quality’ car I had before my Lexus experience. Regardless of all that my thoughts about quality have less to do about reliability but more to do with how I feel when I’m sitting in and driving my car. Our second car is a 12 year old Honda Jazz which has never let us down and is perfect for its intended role, but I’ve never loved it like my GS. The ‘quality’ of interior materials and comfort are worlds apart. I felt the interior of my IS mk 2 superior in quality than the IS mk 3 but I guess that’s subjective. My point being is that most cars nowadays are a massive improvement from those of the past and our expectations have become over expected! Am sure this has opened a can of worms and am looking forward to certain members thoughts!