Number86

Following a car is always easier than being the leader. 2. It's 2 tenths of a second, not 2 thousandths, and when you're in the under 5's bracket, that's not insignificant. Perhaps check out the quarter mile times for a broader perspective. As that reduces the focus of launch grip somewhat.

I'm just thinking it sounds a bit like post hoc rationalisation. As you're all f owners, and it's the same thought process I had with the f, and that I've observed in every other car forum, with almost hilarious predictability. This and other threads here also smack of vested interests justifying prices to prop their own car up in the back of it. Sometimes stepping back and trying to be objective is a good thing... <\controversial>

deliberately underrated it? For what purpose?

All the reviews I've ever read put the lexus behind the rest. Perhaps my post sounded harsh. I prefer the lexus to the others, because I've always been a lex fan, but this is a public opinion. It doesn't handle as well as the BMW, it doesn't have the power to match the C63, and it certainly doesn't have the looks to match an M3 coupe.

That's it chap. Very few about and good examples well looked after with possible extended warranty as an option are always going to command a higher premium and hold value pretty well. You never know, if you are in no rush something may crop up eventually. Stu I meant to address this post before... Rarity is one thing. However, it's pretty much universally accepted that while the ISF is good, it's not 'quite' as good as the others, which is fine normally. As they were going used cheaper than the competition, and had lexus reliability tipping the favour. But now, with some jokers asking 25k for 08's, they're costing more than the competition, and I'm sorry that's not justified, when it's inferior in anything but reliability.

One thing...Not giving it time to cool before switching off? This isn't an old school turbo here. Why would you need to do that?

Maybe. I just wouldn't be comfortable paying 50% of rrp for a car that's 6.5 years old. Admittedly that blue one is obviously not a great example, but it is a facelift with the improvements that carries. But perhaps you're right... I'm noticing a similar trend with the 370z. Despite the cost of it new dropping to 26k for a base model. 4+ year old examples are sticking at around 18k. As they're almost as rare as the isf!

I think 23k for an 08 is too much!

Oh, that doesn't bode well! I hadn't actually checked the service book, though the chap went on about FLSH from twickenham I think. The computer also stated that the engine oil needed to be done. Does the car detect this, or is it simply a reminder as for some of the other parts? Hmm, perhaps I'll be walking away from this one then!

Thanks Stu, good input. Incredibly pricey for a set of discs.... The only thing I noticed was a slight creak in what I assume was the suspension, when I pulled up on the kerb. Is this a known issue, or general wear and tear (I believe this was a lexus demo car). .

So, hi guys!! I'll try and spare all the usual fluff about how great the car is that these posts contain, and get straight to the point! It's a Blue ISF with cream leather (by far the most striking combination, though I do worry about cream leather), on a 2010 (59) which I understand is the facelift (black centre console surround and blue accent on steering wheel). The car has done a hefty 64k miles, it's running on cheap rubber, and the discs have a bit of a lip all round. However, as I'm not a mechanic,what should I be looking for, or features I should make sure work? It's hard enough trying to take everything in when you're learning the car, and all it's basic functions for the first time (while going full bore ), to really start analysing features and functions you might not even know exist! Seeing as it only comes with a basic indie trader 6 month warranty, I just have this anxiety in the back of my head, that it's a 55k car, that will have a 55k type repair bill! Something about yolo keeps springing to mind though...