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William (bilmac) kindly went to see this one for me as the wife has taken a likeing for mine http://www.fonthillcarsales.ie/viewanad.php?ad_id=1179534&r= and this is his report.......... Hi Mike, I went to see car today, sorry to say it's not a good one, I was not speaking to David Forde the dealer, but I did examine the car and spoke to the Mecanic ( again someone I know quite well) who would do work for him, we both agreed car was not worth the work it would need. The first thing I noticed was a different coloured rear drivers side door, then when I looked inside it was filthy, ashtray was overflowing, no attempt has been made to present this car. Sorry Mike, William Once again the LOC members demonstrate what a great bunch they are. Cheers William. Mike.

Hi William. It was probobly me that sent you the private message. I didnt get any info saying there was a problem with sending it. I will send it again and see what happeens. Mike

Mine is left on all the time. Mike.

My MK4 is amazing. Mike.

Saw this on ebay and thought it was a nice looking example. If everything is OK with the car and the LPG then you value £2k for the car and the best part of £1200 for the LPG to be installed if you were to go down the route of buying another LS and getting LPG installed. Baring in mind what people are saying about these cars are just not around anymore then as fas as I can see the price is in the right ball park. You will only know if you go and see the car. Ring the guy and see what inperession you get of him. Good luck Mike.

What a sad sight for such a majestic lady. Mike.

Sorry to hear that Chris but sounds like a result on the price. Dont forget you dont need to own a Lexus to be part of the LOC. Mike

Hi Ruud have a look here http://www.lexusownersclub.co.uk/forum/topic/95743-l2000-for-a-91-with-tangoed-wheels/

Hurry hurry hurry, Buy it now £4500. I think you will all agree an absolute bargain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Buy now to avoid dissapointment. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LEXUS-LS400-Limited-Edition-EXTREME-TUNING-/271735829047?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3f44b7b237 Extreme pricing for extreme tuning. Mike

Great headsup. Lets hope everyone reads this first before travelling hundreds of miles only to be dissapointed. Remember even though this is an auction if the description of the item varries wildly or huge chunks of info are missing you dont have to complete the sale, its a shame you cant get recompense for a complete waste of time and money. Mike This is the answer to why on both occasions the sale didnt finalise..... first never turned up after saying collect 1 week, second arranged after xmas then said too far to come from wales.regardspeter.so cancelled both sales

Great headsup. Lets hope everyone reads this first before travelling hundreds of miles only to be dissapointed. Remember even though this is an auction if the description of the item varries wildly or huge chunks of info are missing you dont have to complete the sale, its a shame you cant get recompense for a complete waste of time and money. Mike

I love your style of humour. Mike

King sized balls to do that. Would loved to have seen his face. Mike

Good point I had forgotton that. When IO had my CC policy I already had 2 other cars on insurance each with their NCB. Mike

We live in a country where companies survive and thrive on getting things wrong so that you have to ring massively exspensive phone lines to try and get things sorted. Hundreds of companies in this country would go bust without it. SAYNOTO 0870 (well done Colinm for mentioning it) Everyone should use this. I have for years if I cant find another number there I gopogle the comapany and get head office numbers on normal phone numbers. Mike

Good old Parcelfarce/HMRC, they never dissapoint living down to everyones expectations of if they can get it wrong they will, and they will go out of their way to make sure it does go wrong.

Yes. we have a Focus estate as well. Mike.

I remember these people now a few years back I used to own a Reliant Scimitar which had a genuine 42k on the clock value at the time around £4k/£5k and they wanted with agreed value over £600 the most I ever paid was £120 restricted 3000 miles PA so it will be interesting to see how much they want for Lexie. Mike

I am paying £208 at the moment I think it renewed in Feb so will give them a try. Mike

@Mike Its fraudulent if you knowingly give the wrong information to a question or fail to declare something such as not reporting an accident you may have had. Its as simple as that. It dosent matter that you feel there is no benefit for them or Party A or Party B, those are the rules. No this is not a fraud since you will not be benefiting anything by not disclosing an incident involving your vehicle which did not involve in an insurance claim. I think we need to understand, I am not saying one should never notify their insurance company but i feel the only time to notify them is if the incident is deemed relevant to be logged with your insurance i.e. a big shant which involved in injuries and will involve 1000's of repair bills. but a small bumper scratch or slight paint work damage which might cost say £300 to put right?? get real.. If you have nothing to gain why would you deliberately chose to answer the question, have you had any accidents in the last 5/6 years with a lie? Why would you not inform your insurance comapny that you have been involved in an accident when you know you have, its part of your terms and conditions which you agree to when taking out the policy in the first place? Answer, because you are concerned you will be charged more when it comes to taking out a new policy or renewing your old one. That makes it fraud, if you lie on any part of your proposal form its fraud and if it went to a court of law you would lose hands down. If you lie to any question on a form knowingly its fraud, it dosent matter what you feel the advantage is for telling a lie when you fill the form in and you lie its fraud. As for kerbing your wheels thats down to you to decide if you tell them or not. Of course there are other reasons why people lie on their insurance forms and thats because if your car has been involved in an accident and you have the damaged repaired the insurance company would want the V5 stamped Cat A,B,C,D. which of course makes your car less desireable and reduce its value. I have had 3 accidents non of which was my fault all of which were reported to my insurance company. my son has had 2 accidents neither was his fault so thats 5 occassions the insurance co could have hit our NCB and up our premiums but they didnt, all we had to do was show that all our uninsured losses were recovered (policy excess) and have the 3rd parties insurance company admit their insured was fully to blame for the accident. Now I think I have made the position as clear as I can there is no point in me replying anymore you all agree you have to inform your insurance company and not lie on forms, you may think thats unfair. well life isnt fair. Mike

Yep, I can see why you say that .....read my post above....similar outcome. They really are two faced robbing bar stewards are they not? They do nothing to promote honesty. I agree with you but they have the whip hand and you have to dance to their tune. Mike

And not sure why a customer will be committing fraud if he settles a 3rd party repair without involving his insurance company. the customer has not gained anything by not phoning his insurance company so how can this be deemed fraudulent act or practice? Its fraudulent if you knowingly give the wrong information to a question or fail to declare something such as not reporting an accident you may have had. Its as simple as that. It dosent matter that you feel there is no benefit for them or Party A or Party B, those are the rules. If problems arises for the 'not at fault' drivers vehicle after a repair was carried out, he would be covered under the 'Supply of Goods and Service Act 1982' regulation so long as he has a copy of the billing invoice so wont need the muscles of an insurance company to persuade the garage. moreover are garages not meant to legally apply a form of guarantee of a job/repair they carry out on a vehicle over a period of time?? And as we know these problems that may appear later are always easy to resolve with the garages bending over backwards to help you. In your dreams. There is little point in arguing these points anymore you all know what the rules and the law is and its up to you to decide which route you take. Insurance companies arnt there to play fair they are there to make as much money as possible and if they find out you have lied or witheld information they will say thankyou, by the way we wont be paying out on your claim and we wont be insuring you again. Its up to you. Mike

As far as I remember you were quite happy to tell other LOC members to lie and basicly commit fraud as far as their car insurance policies were concerned. I responded as I would to anyone who urged LOC members or anybody else to lie and withold information frpom their insurance company which is Fraud. What did you find interesting and defensive about that? Mike.

Thats odd. All my settings stay unless the battery is disconected. Mike.

I think your clutching at straws. Your analogy couldnt be more wrong. And yes I have reported every motor accident I have been involved in, all Non fault accidents. It has nothing to do with talking from the moral high ground its just what you agree to do when you take out Motor insurance and not House insurance. They wouldnt required you to inform them that you found a window broken. The problem with not informing your insurance company as dave1 said should problems arise further down the line you have no recourse and you are also trusting someone you have never met before in your life to stick to an agreement. Should a few months down the line find he wants to claim for personal injury then you are up the creek without a paddle, and your insurance company is now refusing to pay out and they have also cancelled your insurance. Trying to get insurance after and insurance company has done that do you will be very difficult to obtain. I dont think anyone will agree with you in keeping the truth from your insurance company and to suggest that others should do the same is foolhardy. Mike