Bluesman

Whose fault was there accident? Mike.

Same here, really interesting read. My MK4 gets lots of admiring looks. Mike.

I can't comment on your personal experience, but if it's so hard, how come so many people manage it? Young people in the UK are twice as likely as their counterparts in other rich countries to be so seriously ill or incapacitated that they cannot work and must live off disability benefits, an international study on welfare has found. http://www.theguardian.com/society/2010/nov/24/young-british-claim-disability-benefits I have now had a chance of reading the Guardian piece and the things that come to mind are first of all there are no figures given for the size of the survey and of course you can make survey figures come up with just about anything that serves your argument. About 15/20 years ago it was a well known practice in job centers up and down the UK to push people onto Sickness Benefit this made the jobless figures look as though they were going down and of course made the government of the day look good look good. People that have lived amongst families who have always been on benefits of one kind or another are almost certainly going to end up on benefits so you can expect even more to end up that way. If you receive the higher rate of DLA and its awarded for life you only have to fill out that form of many pages once after which you BB is automatically renewed on the receipt of £10. I recently saw a TV program only last week where those who don't give a damn about leading an honest life will fill forms in for you which will guarantee you get a BB for a few hundred pounds, together with many hundreds of other dishonest ways to get hold of DSS payments and BB untill we crack down with massive fines and other types of sentencing this country will just get worse, I am sorry to say. Mike.

Spotted a gorgeous silver LS600HL, was it you? a beautiful car. Thanks for the wave. Mike

Are the Hazzard lights? as we all know switch your Hazzard warning lights on and you can do anything you like by breaking motoring laws around the country, with your Hazzard warning lights on immediately makes your vehicle invisible and also means you are not now committing an offence. Mike.

Hi and welcome to the LOC, we are a friendly bunch and some of us even know how to pull them to bits and put them back together again, with of course the one bolt and washer left over. Regards Mike.

Hi and welcome to the LOC, we are a friendly bunch and some of us even know how to pull them to bits and put them back together again, with of course the one bolt and washer left over. Regards Mike.

Keep the wood. but I am old. Mike

You did start with the abuse of a disabled parking space so its still within subject. Its a subject that always brings forward lots of ideas, theories and beliefs. Mike.

HoooooRaaaaay Well done. Mike.

Right lets firstly keep this enlightening thread polite or it will end up leaving bad feeling and being locked. Everyone is entitled to their point of view and to express them freely but politely. Right Jon, I assume you are referring to some of the surveys that have been conducted amongst several supermarkets. BB bays are not covered by law or come to that any other bay on private land. Anyone can park in them and there is very little chance the supermarkets will say anything to you as they are not about losing customers by telling them they shouldn't park there so their figures are very likely to be flawed. This also covers Parent/child bays which I think have diluted the validity of the Dis bays. On the highways which is where the law of the land applies are those on public roads and any other land that comes under the Highways departments. These bays are constantly abused by people who fraudulently use the BB and by those who are only going to be a couple of mins while they go into the bank or to get a loaf of bread. Leaving the hazard warning lights on negates any wrong doing. No figures as far as I know have ever been collated as to the measure of this abuse. The Police and councils have constantly turned the other way when this crime is being committed. Very few councils send out wardens/police the problem. A couple of councils have had a blitz on BB fraud and DB abuse and this is only done when TV cameras are around so that we can see what a wonderful council they are, what you cant see is the bad news that's going out the backdoor and you wont get to hear about. Until this country gets off its backside and polices this country properly with police walking YES! walking the streets then the only thing that will happen is the problem will just get worse.

Hi and welcome to the LOC, we are a friendly bunch and some of us even know how to pull them to bits and put them back together again, with of course the one bolt and washer left over. Someone will come along fairly quickly to help you out. Regards Mike.

Hi and welcome to the LOC, we are a friendly bunch and some of us even know how to pull them to bits and put them back together again, with of course the one bolt and washer left over. Regards Mike.

Hi and welcome to the LOC, we are a friendly bunch and some of us even know how to pull them to bits and put them back together again, with of course the one bolt and washer left over. Regards Mike.

1st no its you who are missing the point if your not disabled why do you care who parks in these bays and yes just becaue some of us are disabled doesn't mean we are stupid (although we do sometimes get treated that way) Yes there are some people who DO abuse the Blue Badge but a survey revealed that its not as many as ablebodied people & this government would have us think. Now not only do they require your doctors written confirmation they also now require evidencxe that you are receiving the highest rate of DLA before they'll issue a permit Hi Jon, Can you point us in the direction of this survey you quoted? I would be interested in the figures.Mike Sorry, I thought this thread was open for anyone to air an opinion if they wish, not just the disabled. My mistake Sorry Hugh, did I miss something?

Hi and welcome to the LOC, we are a friendly bunch and some of us even know how to pull them to bits and put them back together again, with of course the one bolt and washer left over. Regards Mike.

Hi and welcome back to the LOC, we are a friendly bunch as you probably know and some of us even know how to pull them to bits and put them back together again, with of course the one bolt and washer left over. Regards Mike. I'm old too.

1st no its you who are missing the point if your not disabled why do you care who parks in these bays and yes just becaue some of us are disabled doesn't mean we are stupid (although we do sometimes get treated that way) Yes there are some people who DO abuse the Blue Badge but a survey revealed that its not as many as ablebodied people & this government would have us think. Now not only do they require your doctors written confirmation they also now require evidencxe that you are receiving the highest rate of DLA before they'll issue a permit Hi Jon, Can you point us in the direction of this survey you quoted? I would be interested in the figures.Mike

I am just not a lover of black wheels, Silver seems to highlight the car much better. I'm old, cant help it. Mike.

Cant find that through the link, registered and still cant find it but in the meantime here is one for all the law abiding motorist able or disabled to warm your heart and to see someone get payback.

Rock on Hugh I am with you all the way. Mike.

They may well have known what they had done was well out of order and waited for you to go out. Mike.

Cliff Michelmore "Tonight" several Holiday programs. The days when you put a suit and tie on to go to the pictures. Mike.

In many states now it will attract a fine of $2000 especially where the Blue Badge is also used in the abuse. All States run independently from each other but most are fairly similar in fines, laws and rules. It works roughly like this. Use of disabled space without a blue badge $950, misuse of blue badge $950, there is no discount for paying early. You can be fined here £1000 for misuse of badge but sadly it goes in front of a magistrate and we all know what they are like for a sucker story. Until we get back some honesty and and respect into society we will still suffer every time we go out. Mike.