I think it's worth remembering that these were cars sold to people who could afford them new and that maintenance costs didn't really concern them. When we buy them several years down the line the cost of just one major repair could easily be far more than the car's value itself. It's that possibility that makes these ageing limos worth so little. Last year I replaced my suspension which cost me nearly half of what I paid for the car. You're right of course, they are a massive amount of car for little money, and if they stay that way, and certain preventative measures make that possible, they are a joy to own! Personally I wouldn't want anything other than an LS430, and I've had the LS400 and a GS, but I know the risk, although the risk is much lower than if I had bought the German alternative. People who condemn the LS430 are often the ones who have never even driven one, they judge by what they read, it's a poor judgement.