Roger Bill

The configurator on the US lexus.com website is now setup for the 2023 facelift model. The photos show the new larger touchscreen. Otherwise the configurator isn't of much interest because the model variants and options here in the UK are very different to those in the US market.

12 hours ago, fourbanks said:

Hi guys. i chose Lexus as the dealership is way superior to any other in my area Mercedes/Audi/ Range Rover BMW etc and hope that continues. The car itself so far is spot on, despite the infotainment system being the weakest link. It has Dunlop run flat tyres from Japan and has a sunroof and cream leather seating 

You were lucky to get the Dunlop run flat tyres as most UX come with Bridgestone which are noisier and reputedly give a harder ride.

10 hours ago, Neville Gardner said:

Ordered my UX Premium Pack on Jan  12th and Lexus app and web site  has never moved off the Processing Order status. Been given some lame excuses by dealer, and advised that it’s not on the schedule to be built in July. All they would confirm is that it will have the upgrade on the infotainment system as a freebie when they finally get a build date sometime in August. Alternatively I could cancel and get deposit back. Current lead times for ordering now is build in Jan, delivery in April, so no real benefit. Decided to stick it out for now because I have a great deal, but patience is wearing thin.

Crikey UX delivery times seem to be getting even longer. I guess component and staff shortages are causing an increasing order backlog.

Perhaps the Lexus price increases, higher level of inflation in the general economy and rising interest rates will lead to reduced demand causing delivery times to go back down to more normal levels.

One of the most sensible reviews I've seen. The first two of his five negative points regarding the infotainment system should be overcome by the midlife update scheduled to go into production in August. His negative point about resale values not being so good as larger models might not be so relevant over here in the UK. However the overriding positive for me are his comments about quality and expected reliability.

The www.lexus.co.uk website still has the following notice:

• Specifications shown are for model year 2022 UK vehicles, and subject to vehicle production lead times, the model ordered may be built according to model year 2023 specification. It is anticipated that your Lexus Centre will advise you of any changes in specification, and any price implication once your ordered vehicle goes into production (at the latest), at which point you have the right to accept such changes, or cancel your order and have any deposit returned to you.

Because the UK Lexus document listing the 2023 changes states the model will enter production in August and delivery times seem to be six or seven months, I'm wondering if the production schedule has slipped.

18 minutes ago, PPD said:

On a related note, does anybody know why the 300e comes with 'normal' tyres, whereas the 250h is on run flats? The Lexus dealership I sourced my 300e with were adamant the tyres were run flats, so I do think there is a bit of confusion around this issue. I wonder if the weight of the electric car precludes run flats?

I wondered the same. Could be weight or could be Lexus wanted quieter tyres. I've read that the 300e has more sound proofing than the 250h because road noise is more noticeable with less power train noise.

18 minutes ago, Tel said:

Once I can build my 2023 UX F-Sport with my chosen spec I will book a Test Drive .

If it is a clone of the current UXe,I might be smitten.

Tel

I was told that the www.lexus.co.uk configurator should be updated with the 2023 UX250h specs and prices sometime this month.

I'll have a test drive as soon as the dealers get their 2023 demonstrator cars. I need to check the ride because the UX250h I had for a test drive wasn't quite as comfortable as I would ideally like for my aging body! But the car I drove had manual seats. Hopefully the Takumi electric seats plus the 2023 mods to body stiffness and suspension tweaks will overcome this problem.

1 hour ago, Tel said:

Do you have prices Colours  & specs then ?

Tel

UK colours and specs are in the second of the two documents I uploaded. These were the same as those I was given last week. The only price I got was for the Takumi £45,500 not sure whether that included the £820 for the Sonic Platinium paint.

1 hour ago, Tel said:

I am hoping they offer an F-Sport with Takumi Pack that includes AVS, Pano Roof ,HUD,MLS etc that is my current NX Spec.

Tel

Good news there is an F Sport with Takumi Pack which includes everything on your list except it's a "normal" sunroof rather than a panoramic.

MY23 UX Product Bulletin v3.1.pdf

@Tel Hi Tel, I popped into a UK dealer last week and was given a print-out confirming the 2023 UX2590h changes released a few weeks ago. It includes the UK Takumi grade which isn't one in the US lineup. The key change being the 12.3" touch screen. I was given prices and was told they expect to see their demonstrator to arrive late September. I hope something hasn't changed to cause this to slip back to spring 2023.

The "enhanced body rigidity" section in the attached mentions extra spot welds and returned suspension. Also introduced is a newer version of the Bridgestone runflats which are claimed to be quieter.

UX 2023 Mods.PDF

10 hours ago, UX250h said:

Is there a gizmo you can use to connect your phone to the display without a cable?

 

There are Android Auto USB adaptors available from the likes of amazon and I've seen posts by other Lexus owners who use them e.g. 

7 hours ago, Gorb said:

Can you provide a link to where Lexus discuss the noise levels from the Bridgestone (or any) tyres please?

For the tyre data check www.lexus.co.uk/new-cars/ux/build select a model grade, then customise, then the wheels tab and finally click "tyre info". Then you will get a dialog box containing tyre data as per the attached screenshot.

17" wheels on the 250H are fitted with non-runflats With tyre goo, 18" wheels fitted ro F Sport and Takumi have 18" wheels and run flats. The UX 300e fitted with both 17" and 18" are all fitted with non-runflats.

When I checked a couple of months ago both Bridgestone and Dunlop tyre data were listed for the 250h. Now only Bridgestones are shown. 300e 18" wheels are fitted with Michelin non-runflats their noise rating is 69dB vs 71dB for the Bridgestone runflats.

For slightly less detailed tyre data check websites like www.blackcircles.com/tyres/225-50-18?runflat=1&id=10229

1 hour ago, rayaans said:

Ive had a few cars with stiffer suspension and low profile tyres. Again, it doesnt really increase the risk of a puncture.

Sorry but the point I was trying to make is that many are happy to forego a comfortable and quiet ride everyday for the very occasional times they might be driving in conditions that would see any benefit of improved handling.

As to your point, there is quite a bit of evidence that low profile tyres are more prone to damage from pot holes and speed bumps. For example, see https://www.national.co.uk/blog/low-profile-tyres-the-complete-guide

3 hours ago, rayaans said:

You cant really compare car insurance to run flats. One is compulsory, the other isnt

Good point. I should have used house insurance which is optional as the example to illustrate my point that we're willing to spend significant amounts of money to guard against a rare event simply because if that event does occur it can be very expensive. There is a small risk of serious injury or damage to your car in stopping on a motorway hard shoulder hence the advice to leave the car and stand behind the crash barrier.

In all cases it's down to personal choice as to what risks and compromises you prefer.

32 minutes ago, rayaans said:

Same argument for run flats that everyone uses but the problem is that most would wait 30 mins to an hour for roadside assistance than constantly drive on rock hard, noisy tyres, sometimes for a year or two.

The risk of a puncture / catastrophic tyre event is really quite low in the grand scheme of things

True, but look how many buy a sports version of cars which have rock hard suspension with low profile tyres when they rarely have the opportunity to drive on roads with bends and speed limits which go anywhere near conditions which would benefit from such suspension setups. Or those with large 4x4 who never venture offroad. It's all down to personal choice and your own particular order of priorities and which compromises you're prepared to live with. For me changing a wheel or waiting an hour on a motorway hard shoulder scares me sufficiently to want the "insurance" of runflats. In the same way I continue to line the pockets of car insurers after many years of accident free motoring (fingers crossed).

23 minutes ago, ColinBarber said:

Your vehicle comes with roadside assistance - just let them deal with a flat tyre if you are unlucky enough to get one.

In some cases I agree this would be a good option. But I wouldn't want to wait for them stuck at a busy set of lights in the rush hour so would possibly wreak an alloy wheel driving to a safe spot.

Amusingly a wealthy friend had his Porsche Cayenne breakdown in just such a location and had to wait an embarrassing hour for the AA to arrive. His previous 911 also cost him a lot in repairs and maintenance. I keep nudging him to consider something more reliable like a Lexus.

Lexus have also fitted Dunlop run flats to the UX which are said to be quieter. Also the UX facelift due to enter production in August will apparently be fitted with a new Bridgestone run flat which Lexus say are quieter.

I recently had a puncture a few yards from home. I used a trolley jack to raise the car and an extension on a socket to remove the wheel. In my aged physical condition I doubt any scissor jack and wheel brace would have been sufficient. In 100,000s of miles of driving I've only suffered about half a dozen punctures but I remember one on the M6 and one at a busy set of traffic lights in the rush hour. Neither would have been repairable with tyre repair gunk. In both cases, changing the wheel was scary and these experiences are indelibly etched in my memory.

For these reasons I think I'll be prepared to suffer the extra noise and harder ride of run flats.

28 minutes ago, Dazzle1983 said:

I have done 70 miles now in ux and only used 1% fuel I'm confused as to why the fuel gadge is not moving. Is this normal and then it goes faster? Also I'm averaging 43 mpg but only do short trips to work and back roughly 5.5 miles a day.

Perhaps the sender in the tank has a float which is pressed hard up on the top of the tank when it's full and which doesn't move until the level has fallen sufficiently for the float to be free to float in the petrol. If the tank is more of a flat than a tall shape, more fuel will need to be used before the float will be free to float.

32 minutes ago, talaipwros said:

It says 317!

But as far as I can tell when using the build option https://www.toyota.co.uk/new-cars/bz4x/build the spec for all the 2WD variants quotes a range of 270 miles (AWD figures are similar) . I wonder if another variant with greater range is in the pipeline or whether "is designed to deliver a range of up to 317 miles" is marketing speak vs the WLTP figures that have to be quoted in the build spec.

7 hours ago, talaipwros said:

by the way, I think the Toyota offering with 317miles for the same price is a better option. It will be available at showrooms next month, you can book one for £99 - I have asked to see it as it will be very similar to the Lexus RZ

According to the Toyota UK website the bZ4X has a range of 270 miles. Is there another Toyota EV maybe in another market with a better range?

8 hours ago, ALAW said:

Roger i looked at a youtube and see they are doing away with the clock

It does seem they're dropping the clock but the larger screen with a more square aspect ratio is much better for displaying maps. Possibly the clock was included because the original screen was so elongated 

7 hours ago, ALAW said:

Aye Colin i think im going for the dunlops when im due a change unless someone posts anything different.

The UX facelift which is due to start in production in August 2022 is said to be fitted with improved Bridgestone run flat tyres: https://global.toyota/en/newsroom/lexus/37299882.html?utm_source=LexusOwnersClubUK&utm_medium=ForumLinks

5 hours ago, ALAW said:

Thats a first for me ive never heard of a underbody camera on a car before.

It was also a new one on me. 

Some of the features shown in this video might give a clue as to what the UX system will be like. Elsewhere I read:

the UX’s standard Panoramic View Monitor, or 360-degree camera system, now offers an “underbody transparent display function” using the various camera sensors. “This combines images of road surface conditions taken in the past with an image of the vehicle underbody, helping the driver to fully recognise vehicle position in relation to road surface conditions below,” the company says.

Which I take to mean the underbody image is recreated from a recording made from the normal four panoramic cameras as the car previously moved toward the spot it's now over.

1 hour ago, Navnan2 said:

Are the painted wheel arches specific to the F sort and Takumi does anyone know?

That's the case currently, don't know whether the same will hold true for the facelift. Lexus UK have said further info on spec details will be released next month.

https://mag.lexus.co.uk/lexus-ux-250h-2022/comment-page-3/#comments

I don't think this adds anymore info, just different wording.