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Thanks for the replies, but having been to see one, it isn't big enough for our needs.  Sticking with the Touareg.

19 minutes ago, IS300Hdriver said:

Have a look here:

https://www.lexus-tech.eu/Bluetooth/search.aspx

Latest iPhones with IOS 10 seem pretty good bar email readouts

Excellent.  Thank you.

18 minutes ago, steveledzep said:

I wouldn't buy a car to fit my phone.....I'd change my phone to one that fits my choice of car 

Ok, I'm going to entertain you, but when the whole family is on apple and the functionality suits, we're not likely to be changing phones, especially on contract.  I'm looking to change the Touareg anyway having owned it from new for 3 years now.  Looking at what to buy and phone connectivity, is one of the points to consider.  If the iS300h doesn't do it, it comes off the list when there are others that do.  Its just one of the considerations in making the change.  

I vowed never to own another Lexus having had a bad experience with an iS220d and woeful service from the main dealership (Sytner), but, I can go to another dealership for service as long as the car is good and fits our needs.

Can anyone tell me whether the infotainment system on the iS300h connects with the Iphone please.  I currently run a VW Touareg R Line, that whilst it will connect via Bluetooth, won't receive SMS/email alerts because the VW system doesn't do apple Car Play or mirroring, and the Iphone doesn't do RSAP.  I'm looking at moving on from the Touareg for something new, and am considering the iS300h, but I want something that will connect with the phone fully.  

Also, the iS300h looks to be a much improved car, but is it only the Premium models that come with the reversing camera?

I've left my RX450h for 4 weeks and it started first time with no hesitation. The battery problems are only on older RX models with a smaller battery. The IS is unaffected. It's usually been due to loose terminals at PDI that causes it

Not what the Lexus sales staff are willing to put their signature to. The new models seem to be affected just the same as older versions.

My R Line Touareg isn't standard (the standard kit of the R Line is a higher spec than other marques as it is) but listing extras is hardly a chore.

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The sales staff are talking out of their backsides - I know Lexus better than they do, in fact some of them didn't even know the new RX was coming and whether HUD was available on the F-Sport models. and it doesnt affect the newer models as much as it did. The older 400h had issues as it had a smaller Battery. The new cars have standard Battery sizes and its not a problem unless something is loose such as the terminals

It would certainly be a pain phoning up everytime I had to get insurance on an Audi or something to say a massive list of everything on the car especially when you have 2 cars. Would be a PITA if I needed to claim and missed something out by accident too!

Ive gone off VW's now - I dont find them as luxurious as they used to be, more rugged than luxury IMO - especially after coming to Lexus and being pampered by the gliding seats and steering wheel when turning the car on, slow closing windows and the HUGE kit list.

Lol. You know Lexus better than the sales staff. Very amusing.

Every car has a build code. The insurers can easily check that against the registration or chassis number to get a full specification list. Hardly a chore or a chance of missing something off in a claim.

My Touareg R Line has every luxury of a Lexus RX450H. Whilst they are both designated as SUVs, they are totally different cars. A RX is rarely, if ever, likely to seriously venture off road, whereas a Touareg is and can cope with it even on standard tyres. The Touareg also has a bigger load area with the seats up or down. Does it make the RX a bad car? No it doesn't. But it makes it more of a Chelsea school run car than a proper 4x4.

You hate VW and love Lexus. Whoopy do for you. But all this schadenfreude rhetoric is ill placed. The UK government are not going to take any retrospective steps against VW owners. I will therefore continue to blow my smelly, polluting diesel emissions wherever I go luxuriating in the fuel economy of a big V6 Tdi. Especially in Scotland.

Enjoy your RX. I certainly intend continuing to enjoy my VW Touareg.

I've left my RX450h for 4 weeks and it started first time with no hesitation. The battery problems are only on older RX models with a smaller battery. The IS is unaffected. It's usually been due to loose terminals at PDI that causes it

Not what the Lexus sales staff are willing to put their signature to. The new models seem to be affected just the same as older versions.

My R Line Touareg isn't standard (the standard kit of the R Line is a higher spec than other marques as it is) but listing extras is hardly a chore.

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It is only late 2014 engines and only US emissions tests it falls foul of. The EU emissions test is not affected.

There is also debate that the software is actually in operation in the US and is being contested by all.

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Correct.

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So of the 49.9% of sales what are they comprised of? How many hybrids, electric or just petrol? If that 49.9% is the total sales percentage for all configurations other than diesel, then diesels easily out sell them.

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The test are carried differently in UK than US and I doubt that they will change the tax rates for the older cars they might implement in the one's coming up next. It might affect the diesel car sale.

The difference between the US and EU test has already been iterated. New vehicles already pass the EU6 standard and the EU test to be adopted in 2017. There will therefore be no hike in VED for new vehicles.

I doubt very much that it will affect diesel car sales. Owners want value for money and a diesel engine is far more economical than a petrol hybrid over journeys where the hybrid motor has little to no use. Until such time as Hydrogen fuel cell vehicles come into mass production from the various manufacturers, diesels will continue to out sell all other engine configurations.

VW have confirmed that the modification will bring the affected engines up to the EU6 standard. Current owners also do not have to have the modifications if they don't want. The UK VEL is based on Co2 emissions which the EU5 E189 engines pass and which the DfT are happy with. NO HIKE IN VEL FOR EXISTING OR ORDERED VEHICLES.

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The defeat device also reduced CO2 at the time of testing. This is why the vehicles may now end up in a higher tax bracket.

It did not defeat the EU testing for Co2. The statement is that the software is fitted to EU5 E189 engines and that VW will recall those vehicles to fit Adblue tanks making the engines EU6 compatible. The government has already confirmed there will be no raising of the VEL for affected vehicles.

A number of manufacturers who passed the EU test have since the VW scandal had sold vehicles retested and show they exceed the EU test by 4 and more times the permitted limit for Co2 and Nitrous Oxides.

Yes my mistake with trying to use Taptalk; I of course meant Nitrous Oxide.

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The government confirmed today that any reclassification of VAG vehicles won't result in customers having to pay more tax.

What they should be doing is calculating the additional tax for the next 10 years on all the vehicles and then fining VAG for that amount, tripled as the wilfully deceived, and use that money to offset the extra emissions by reducing congestion.

The vehicles pass the EU emissions test as it tests for Co2 and not Carbon Oxide, so what are you going to fine them for? They're going to fit Adblue tanks to existing vehicles including EU ones, to comply with the US test for Carbon Oxide emissions.

Now how about a fine for those manufacturers producing hybrid vehicles because of the damage to health and the environment by the open cast mining methods and both the production and destruction of the batteries? Your hybrid may run partially cleaner than a diesel but getting it on the road is more destructive.

The pollution from cars is a drop in the ocean compared to industry.

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I had an is220d which was a mistake with the too tall first gear and everyone hitting their heads on the A pillar. Lost £6k trading in after 6 months ownership to go back to an S80 D5. When I retired I needed a SUV and considered the RX but decided against for a couple of reasons. The obvious one was the flat Battery problem when left standing, but my local dealership didn't handle themselves well in all the contact I had with them either putting me off further. If there was another dealer close by, I might have taken a punt on the RX, but the Treg is a quality car with power, space and enough tech and toys to keep me happy.

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Good for you. [emoji106]

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http://www.lexusownersclub.co.uk/forum/topic/43199-battery-failure/

Known fault with hybrids.

The point being made is that it isn't just VW that are fooling the tests. Everybody does it. The VW EU5 EU189 actually passes the EU test and all VW EU6 engines pass the new EU test to be introduced in 2017.

There are some reports that highlight the damage to the environment by producing and disposing the hybrid batteries and components.

http://greenliving.lovetoknow.com/Hybrid_Vehicles_Negative_Environmental_Impact

The bigger inquiry is going to turn up a lot more than just VW.

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Glad I opted for a diesel that I can leave standing for more than a couple of weeks without risking a flat Battery and get from one end of the country to the other without refuelling.

The Diesel engines affected are easily and cheaply rectified. There will be no retrospective hike in VED and no significant drop in resale values. The trade and economists are virtually agreed on that.

Every single vehicle model cheats the emissions test be it by taping over door seams, removing all non essential equipment to lighten the vehicle, over inflating the tyres, accelerating very slowly etc etc. Even your petrol and petrol/hybrid. VW have used software to assist them in passing the test with EU5 E189 engines. This is one engine configuration with all others being fine.

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The VW 3.0 TDi is not one of the engines affected. Like all engines, it is being checked. Not all 1.6 and 2.0 Diesel engines are affected either. It is only the EU5 derivative (E2189).

The software operates by detecting when the vehicle is on a rolling road simply by checking whether the non-drive wheels are moving. On a rolling road they won't be. The Touareg (3.0 V6 TDi) is permanent 4x4 so can only be tested on a rolling road with all four wheels turning stopping the software (if it is fitted) from operating.

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You only have to look at the derisory fine the US gave GM for a fault on vehicles that directly caused fatalities. After all the huffing and puffing it hardly dented GMs income.

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The fine won't be that much. The US are all about mouth and trousers and when the grand scheme of things is applied, this about VW using technology to pass an emissions test as set by the US authorities. Illegal? Doubtful. Ethical? Probably not. VW are the biggest manufacturer having overtaken Ford. Globally they are worth over £50billion. The auto family are predicting that this is highly unlikely to have a big effect on VW. Sections of the media are guilty of lazy reporting on this; take the BBCs VW diesels prohibited from sale in Switzerland. Wrong. Switzerland have prohibited the sale of EU5 derivative 1.6 and 2.0 TDi engines in the Golf, Jetta and Passat, nothing else. VW buyers are being advised by motoring organisations to not be so ridiculous by cancelling orders, as existing vehicles and those already on order, will not suffer with any retrospective hike in VED.

Whilst I own a Touareg R Line unaffected by these recent revelations, I'd personally be glad to see the back of every Golf as they are among the worst drivers on the road in my encounters with them. Quickly followed by Audi and BMW drivers.

Adblue tanks can easily be fitted in the spare wheel well under the wheel. In the US the controversy is because EU6 engines (with Adblue tanks) were used to pass the test, but EU5 (without) engines came in the vehicles released to dealers. The cost of retrospectively fitting the tanks is a drop in the ocean and the fine likely to be far less than that being reported.

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Doubt it very much. Even the trade is saying used values will be unaffected.

This is a US issue. The testing methods for the EU are completely different. VW has passed that test and the new test due to be introduced. BMW, Volvo, Renault and Hyundai are four manufacturers who have engines that failed the new test.

Whilst it might give some RX owners a bit of a Schaudenfkied (sic) complex, I'm sorry to have to break the news but the Touareg 3.0 V6 TDi engine isn't one where US results have been "falsified". VW also have a solution for vehicles with engines of the E189 specification by fitting an Adblue tank. These engines then comply with Euro EU6.

VW get fined, fix cars affected and everyone is happy.

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Don't see how, nothing has or is likely to change, that has any effect on already registered vehicles. Plus I can still leave my diesel for weeks without incurring a flat Battery [emoji6]

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This is the key to it being more than likely that no retrospective hike in VED will be applied. See note 3 at the bottom of the table which shows that the last change in VED was not retrospectively applied to vehicles registered before March 2006 despite high emissions and poor fuel economy.

If there is any change in the VED rate for diesels including the Touareg (there is nothing that suggests the 3.0 V6 TDi utilises any software), it is likely to apply to vehicles not yet registered. To impose a higher rate on already registered vehicles would be a certain vote loser for any government meaning only the Greens or the nut job Corbyn would be likely to be so stupid. It would more likely be like the changes introduced for vehicles registered before 2006 and be an amendment to the changes coming in in 2017 for all new vehicles. It could see existing vehicles become sought after much like pre 2006 vehicles.

On the testing though, what have VW or anyone else done. The testing authorities present the method of the test and the target to hit. VW have complied with that test. What the US now object to is the results are different for real world driving conditions. Well maybe if they had a test replicating real world driving conditions VW and anyone else who used the software may have designed their engines differently. A good barrister might be able to make a claim against the US for damages despite the fact that the properties in diesels are more harmful than thought.

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