Spacewagon52

I would not be surprised what a Land Rover can do at their experience centres. We had one in our area and I knew one of the chaps who designed the course. Just underneath all that mud is hard ground or even concrete. The rule they must stick to, when designing the course, is that no Land Rover must get stuck. The terrain is designed to look very challenging but quite frankly most 4x4 would be able to negotiate their course. I have seen Range Rovers, Land Rovers, Land Cruisers, Renegade Jeeps with diff locks - all get stuck in the real world. On one off-road course, the last part was to drive up a steep grass slope. All the genuine 4x4's on that day failed. The only vehicle to do it was an old Kia worth about £500. It made those people, who had spent a good deal more than that on modifications, rather stunned. What you are able to do on a Land Rover driver experience is geared to selling cars - and they do sell them as they look more impressive than in reality.

Tyres are the key to be fair to the Range Rover.

Out of the ones you have listed I would go for the RX400h but I am not sure that would be particularly economical. However it will keep the family in the Lexus stable.

Watch this and it will make you feel better! or this!

Is the just for ISF owners?

£2500 with discount but not fitting, sorry from you previous post.

£2500 is that excluding VAT and fitting or inclusive?

I could not agree more. Depreciation on newer cars makes repairs pale into insignificance.

Saw some of your Range Rover off-roading exploits! How the hell you dared take that rangie through that gap I will never know. Was your backside twitching? Mine was watching it! I have done a little off-roading and know how difficult it can be! Very impressive. I am not off-topic as I was comparing the LS460 suspensionwith a Range Rover!

I could not agree more but he bought it from the main dealers and has always had it serviced there ..... " They know the car....." And they also know he is loyal custom and has a large wallet. .

When you consider the new price (then) of the LS 460 - it does not seem so bad. You are running a luxury car, and when things do go wrong it will cost. No different, I would guess than a Merc / Jag / BMW equivalent. Would take my chances on a Lexus but not a Jag.

Interesting. My friend just put his VW Passat (54 reg, 150,000 miles) in for an MOT at VW main dealer. One headlight will not adjust - they quoted him £500 for both headlights on top of other work which would cost £300. £800 - More than the car is worth! Fortunately he did not just accept the price and stated that could surely do something to adjust the lights cheaper. They came baxk with £136 for Unipart headlight. Goes to show what happens if you don't question the price! That was for TWO VW headlights - £500. My neighbour paid a VW bill (Passat petrol 2007 model) for £2200 for an MOT - shock absorbers and the like! It is not just Lexus who are expensive.

You deserved that! I am a bit envious, as it has been raining here!

When the weather improves (June) I will have a real go at the LS. She is tucked up in the garage for now - she tells me she does not like to go out in the rain! I do spoil her!

I just happened to see one and bought it on speck. Torches and tape measures always come in, the more you have the less time you spend looking for one!

I refuse to ask what GS stands for!

Thanks! I tried the urban dictionary, but no joy. I am not a grammatical zealot, but I do take your point. "Could of, should of "are common errors but as long as people know what the meaning is meant to be, then that is the main thing. Spelling errors are common on the BBC website - typos mainly, as they are under pressure to get content out quickly and no longer have time to proof-read their work. I still feel it is a shame that we judge people too readily by their written English. Note that I used the correct too!

I have been following this thread with interest. Excuse my ignorance but what is OP?

A lovely feeling Mike! I am pleased for you.

I saw a LS 400 in Tesco car park in Dover. It is funny feeling when you see another one - which is rare. Saw this the other day and spoke to the owner - A Mr. Fox! He had previously owned an IS 200 for 13 years - hence the number on the plate. He said he was very pleased with the 300h NX.

" sedately slow " That is me! But NOT my car Malcolm! What colour?

I like the colour and interior, particularly the instrument panel. It looks in exceptional condition, you have real cracker there! A luxury at a very reasonable price no doubt - well sourced.

I read somewhere that Jeeps would pull to trhe right - apparently this was in case the American driver fell asleep and hit on-coming cars???? Not sure if this is true, it might be a mechanics excuse!

Thanks Phil I will have a search. I am considering one for the future.

Very interested in your towing experience with the 400h - tow bar costs and mpg towing.