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Hopefully a dealer can wave his magic wand at it, it always seems to me if you get loads of issues like that it's something little or reprogrammable... Fingers crossed....

Impossible to diagnose without testing, it could be all sorts of things, you need to take it to a garage who can run a diagnostic check on it...

Just a word of warning, don't be tempted to use an air line to try to clear blocked sunroof drains, it can blow the pipes off inside the headliner and means many hours to refit...

Could try disconnecting the battery and reconnect, sometimes resets things...

Looks nice mate, I think the silver wheels look much nicer than the "I've lost my wheel trims" black wheels...!!! I think it needs debadging and then for a laugh put a BMW 318i badge on the back....

Most of those are probably down to low voltage, your battery may have been close to dying anyway and a few discharges have finished it off... Dealers will have some hardware to plug in that will measure voltage use so they should be able to get to the bottom of it, having said that most auto electricians should be able to isolate the exact drain from a multi use fuse...

Ah, but I never get attached to cars, they are just a lump of metal, and I always get bored and want something different after a while..... Glad to hear you like yours though, they do seem rather nice....

Its amasing what can be polished out... my off roading Range Rover BEFORE AFTER

That is not primer, it is clear coat that has got scratched and looks that colour, there is a chance that it could be polished out, it's difficult to recommend someone if we don't know where you are.... why is it such a big secret...???

Whilst on my hunt for info on the LS460 prior to purchase I came across this list of configuration customisations, i.e. options that can be set by the dealer or via one of the many OBD tools available. Thought it may be of interest to others... Doors / Windows / Remote:Blink turn signals when locking/unlocking with remoteYES / NOVolume of beep when locking/unlocking with remoteOFF / 1 / 2 / 3 / 4 / 5 / 6 / MAXWarn (beep) when door can't be locked because it's still openYES / NOPanic function on remoteENABLED / DISABLEDOpen trunk lid with remoteSINGLE CLICK / DOUBLE CLICK / LONG PRESS / DISABLEDRe-lock doors automatically if you unlock, but don't open a doorYES / NORe-lock doors automatically if you unlock, but don't open a door within…30 SECONDS / 60 SECONDS / 120 SECONDSUnlock doors via remoteDRIVER'S DOOR ON 1ST PRESS, ALL ON 2ND / ALL DOORS ON 1ST PRESSUnlock doors via physical keyDRIVER'S DOOR ON 1ST PRESS, ALL ON 2ND / ALL DOORS ON 1ST PRESSUnlock doors via smart key/buttonALL DOORS / EACH DOOR SEPARATELY / DRIVER'S DOOR / SAME-SIDE DOORSAuto-lock doors when movingON / OFFLock doors when shifting into gearON / OFFUnlock doors when shifting into park (P)ON / OFFUnlock all doors when driver's door is openedON / OFFAfter locking with smart key, don't allow re-opening within…0.5 SECONDS / 1.5 SECONDS / 2.5 SECONDS / 5 SECONDSSmart key location to start carFRONT SEATS / ANYWHERE IN VEHICLEUnlock trunk when smart key in rangeYES / NOOpen windows and sunroof by holding key in door lockON / OFFClose windows and sunroof by holding key in door lockON / OFFOpen windows and sunroof via long-press on remoteON / OFFClose windows and sunroof via smart keyON / OFFAuto-arm the alarm when door closed with key NOT in ignitionON / OFFDelay for auto-arming alarm0 SECONDS / 15 SECONDS / 30 SECONDSBeep horn when auto-arming alarmON / OFFOpen/close power rear hatch via interior switchENABLED / DISABLEDInstruments / Display / Dings:Display odometer after ignition is turned off for…30 SECONDS / 1 MINUTE / 10 MINUTES / OFFKey-in-ignition ding volumeLOW / MEDIUM / HIGHKey-in-ignition ding soundSLOW / MEDIUM / FASTDing when headlights are left onYES / NOSeat belt warningDRIVER AND PASSENGER / DRIVER ONLY / PASSENGER ONLY / OFFLane-change turn signal auto-flasher countOFF / 3 FLASHES / 5 FLASHES / 7 FLASHES / 9 FLASHES / 11 FLASHESRemote low battery warningON / OFFFront parking sensor rangeNARROW / WIDERear parking sensor rangeNARROW / WIDEMute parking sensor when stationary for more than 3 sec.YES / NOActivate parking sensors in neutral (N)YES / NOFront side parking sensor rangeSHORT / LONGEnable front parking sensors when in reverse (R)FRONT / FRONT SIDE + CENTER / FRONT SIDE / OFFEnable rear parking sensors when in neutral or forward gearREAR / REAR CORNER / OFFAuto-turn off parking display when moving away from obstaclesYES / NODash display modeALL / UNDISPECO Drive indicator zoneON / OFFLights:Daytime running lightsON / OFFComing-home lights durationOFF / 30 SECONDS / 60 SECONDS / 90 SECONDSAuto headlights activation thresholdDARKEST / DARKER / NORMAL / LIGHTER / LIGHTESTTurn on marker lights when vehicle is unlocked via remoteON / OFFInstrument lights dimming sensitivityDARKEST / DARKER / NORMAL / LIGHTER / LIGHTESTInstrument lights restoring sensitivityDARKEST / DARKER / NORMAL / LIGHTER / LIGHTESTDim interior lights after…7 SECONDS / 15 SECONDS / 30 SECONDSTurn on interior lights when you shut off engineYES / NOTurn on interior lights when you unlock doorsYES / NOTurn on interior lights when smart key in rangeYES / NOTurn on exterior footlight (on side mirror) when smart key in rangeYES / NOInterior footlight (bright when doors open, dim when driving)YES / NOCenter console spotlight (bright when doors open, dim when driving)YES / NOTurn on seatbelt-buckle lights when door openedYES / NOTurn on seatbelt-buckle lights when ignition turned offYES / NOTurn on interior door-handle & center console lights dimly (flood lights) when ignition is on and shifter is not in park (P)YES / NOTurn on exterior footlight (on side mirror) when doors unlocked via remoteYES / NOTurn on exterior footlight (on side mirror) for…OFF / 7 SECONDS / 15 SECONDS / 30 SECONDSInterior light controlENABLED / DISABLEDExterior light controlENABLED / DISABLEDAdvanced Illumination System patternPATTERN 1 / PATTERN 2 / OFFHeater & A/C:A/C powerAUTOMATIC / FULL POWERA/C ECO modeENABLED / DISABLEDAuto-increase blower speed when front defroster is onYES / NOAuto-turn on A/C when AUTO button pressed (if needed)YES / NODeactivate front defroster when AUTO button pressedYES / NOAlso blow to feet in "face" modeYES / NOAuto-activate steering-wheel heaterYES / NOAuto quick seat heater (front left seat)ENABLED / DISABLEDAuto quick seat heater duration (front left seat)STANDARD / SHORT / LONGAuto quick seat heater (front right seat)ENABLED / DISABLEDAuto quick seat heater duration (front right seat)STANDARD / SHORT / LONGOther:Roll down rear shade when in reverse gearYES / NODelay for rolling down rear shade when in reverse gearIMMEDIATE / 0.7 SECONDS / 0.9 SECONDS / 1.2 SECONDSMove driver's seat lumbar support for easy exitYES / NOMove passenger's seat lumbar support for easy exitYES / NO

Drivers side immediately above hand brake in panel below steering wheel, get your head under the steering wheel look up and left

The cats have a pre and post cat lambda, the pre cat lambda tells the engine ECU how the engine is performing, the post cat lambda checks that the cat is working correctly, most faults to do with the cats are down to faulty lambda probes, sounds like one of yours is failing which is not unusual at that sort of mileage. A study of live values with a diagnostic tool should help to diagnose this. I would have thought the garage who did the clean would have checked the before and after emissions..??? did they reveal anything...?? If it does turn out to be the cats, then look for a local place that makes stainless steel exhausts, they can fit a generic lambda for much less that will work and be as good as the original... VSC is unlikely to have been affected by anything in your post so maybe just coincidence, again, diagnostics should reveal the issue...

Well depending on the severity of the damage it can either be pulled out or replaced, it is not a simple DIY job, any body repair garage will be able to do it and quote for the repair...

a, that's the issue, I'm right at the bottom end and don't want to put any more money to it.... b, I do c, Can't think of anyone... I'll certainly post about it....

Totally agree, I like all the bells and whistles more than a perceived drop in longevity.... It will be the cheapest one I can find, I run a Range Rover L322 at present that does well if it gets into double figures MPG... Nobody was going to talk me out of it, I just wanted to know what problems people were having with them, lots of false information on the web about how unreliable modern Lexus are... personally I couldn't see it but knew that asking here would reveal the truth... it seems to be that they are issues with the suspension around 100,000 miles with airbags but my argument would be that they are a service item anyway, even coil springs fail at around that mileage... I won't be put off, the only thing that could throw a spanner in the works is if I don't get what I think the Rangie is worth...!!! In which case I may look at a GS450h, but that's another story...!!!

Cheers, the ones in the 430 didn't seem to get cool, they just blew air at you that couldn't get through the seat because you were sitting on it...!!! Undoubtedly the 400 was the best made, they even had a forged crank which was dropped for the 430, Lexus bought a dozen S class Mercs, took them totally apart and designed the 400 to be better wherever they could... but alas, nothing lasts, rumour has it that they didn't make much money on the 400 so when they decided to update it and build other models the accountants got involved and quality suffers... They are still streets ahead of the competition though... I'm on a Range Rover forum and a guy on there who can't even check the oil himself uses the dealer for absolutely everything, he spent £35,000 (no that's not a mistype thirty five thousand) over three years of repairs and servicing....!!!

Thanks Pete, one random question, are the seat coolers in the 460 the peltier type that actually cool or are they like the 430 and just have fans that don't really do much..?? Cheers

Thanks for taking the time to type all that, really does seem like they enjoy eating suspension parts... any one I get will have done well in excess of the miles on yours so hopefully some of it will be done already... I have been doing around 15,000 miles a year so it won't be having an easy life, I don't mind fixing them, just wondered what I was in for. There are various places in the UK who can rebuild your own ECU's so saving money and reprogramming problems...

I have to concur, Waxoyl has stood still, it is the same product it was in the 70's, if you have done what you suggest then the rust will just keep eating away the metal under a nice warm wet coating, rusting out the car even faster, it really is awful stuff, I feel sorry for your friend (As well as the fact he owns a Rover...!!!) Dinitrol is superb though and well worth doing....

Very good, same as the left... I queried the out of place cup and was told it didn't make that much difference...!!!

My daughter still has the Yaris, paid £300 for it in 2007 and it's still going strong, she gets married in April then she's buying a Merc CLK...!!

Wow, that's not very good service, I had occasion to use the dealer when I had the 430 and they were nothing but nice... I don't use main dealers for anything these days, I have access to a full workshop so do it all myself... Yes, I wish more did them without sunroofs, it's more the door aperture that limits me, usually too low, the IS is really bad for it.... It was me with the CL, nice car but again only a bit more reliable than a Range Rover...!!! Fed up with fixing them, just fancy polishing for a change....

Thanks for the info, does sound like you have a bit of a Friday afternoon car... I'm looking at ones that will not fall into the Lexus (and probably anyone else's) warranty criteria so this type of info is very useful, thanks... I know what you mean about the differences between the older and newer models, this is the same for the Merc, BMW and Audi, I think the Lexus has to be the best bet though....

Blimey, what has cost £15,000 in repairs...???

Thanks Phil, have been reading the USA boards as well, they seem to suffer from different problems than we do, the heat seems to degrade the cars faster in the hot states.... Not fussed on high miles and at least company owned cars tend to get serviced well and problems fixed. The mechanics are pretty bullet proof, just wanted some feedback from UK owners to see if there were any trends, shockers seem to be popular and the GS430, GS450h suffer with them as well so maybe they can't handle the weight of the heavier Lexus... Just after ammo to shoot the price down even lower...... Cheers.