brendangeorge

Cheers bren

Here is my Nav DVD - Gen1 2007-2008 ver 1 - this probably means the map dates back to 2006 or earlier.

http://s1336.photobucket.com/user/snarler45/media/NavDVD2007-2008ver1_zpsaf420dfb.jpg.html

I just checked online and there is an udate from 2011 for €114 - very good considering it is now 2013 :(

The cost is not as high as it used to be but the maps will be 3 years out of date. I will be in a hydrogen powered 460 by the time they get their act together:)

Bren

Bloody hell that's some wonga..... Think I will buy and up to date a-z .... Do the later DVDs have different features for anything else apart from the sat nav, ie audio colour etc

All you get is an unpdate to the maps - if you want a new gen system you can change the unit in the boot. I posted some stuff about this earlier this year.

What is your current disk? You will have to pop it and look at the number on the front. I will see if I can make a "working backup" of mine if it is newer :)

Bren

We all know Boris is a half wit - I thought why would you want to drive in London unless you live there so what the heck? The answer is I would struggle to get to Heathrow - the M25 is not included but the small roads are so it looks as if you would have to walk in. As soon as somebody points this out to the bond fool it will go away I am sure.

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/roadusers/lez/17678.aspx#tkt-tab-panel-2

It is April the 1st is somebody pulling my pud? Mark :)

Bren

What do you think?? Mike

It needed lengthening anyway :)

Bren

If you plan on keeping the car LPG is the best option unless you don't need to wory about the cost of fuel.

My LPG service is only £50 once a year and just find a friendly garage that doesn't wory about LPG being fitted

Are you talking about the cost of just servicing the LPG system or

an engine service??

Profess now will sell you a cable that you plug into your Laptop

and car (about £30) communicate with Profess through your Laptop and

they can read and adjust any parameters that need adjusting. If fuel

filter is needed they just pop that in the post, takes only a couple

of mins to fit new filter, link up with Profess again and they again just check all

the parameters and adjust if necessary. All done no need to pay them

a visit. Mike

Sounds great I know what system I will probably use for my next conversion.

Bren

hmmmm ... it didn't seem to like your disk Andy. It said it was checking it but when the screen came up there were no roads or towns or anything actually. If anyone can suggest a way of perhaps initialising the disk, I'll give it a go. Otherwise I'll drop this disk off for you, and maybe order one from the navteq website.

Thanks for the effort though.

Regards

Mike

Hi Mike

I note you have a 2001 and Andy a 2004 so your systems are different and the disks incompatible. Check this out http://www.lexus-mapupdates.eu/Shop/Index You pobably have a Gen 1 systems (like mine) and Andy a Gen 3.

Bren

I have recently bought an IS250, where on earth does the sat nav disc go? My old Beemer had a separate slot for it, or am I blind and as usual missing the obvious?

Not sure where it is in an IS (this is the LS part of the forum) but there is a DVD unit in the boot under the RHS carpet in and LS430.

Bren

Hi guys, I have a 2002 ls430 and would like to put the latest possible version in, which will still operate on this car. I don't know if different age vehicles will only accept different version discs.

Also if I can put a later or latest disc in where can I get one, apart from dealers .... ie a copy or burnt disc?

Thanks in advance

Hi Paul

Here is the place you can buy a new set - http://www.lexus-mapupdates.eu/Home/Index

If I remember correctly it is 3 DVDs for Europe and was just over £200. It was ages ago that I bought one.

I am not sure when the last update was so check.

I (nor any of my pals) have been able to copy one and make it work - a little disapointing considering my core skills :)

It would be good to know what the year the latest update they are selling is - you will need the part number from your current DVD - if you are going to order an update.

Good luck

Bren

Brendan, word to the wise..... They used the term perforation and because my drivers door hadn't gone from the inside to the outside YET they were not going to do it, but I calmly explained its only a matter of time before it does the same as the Ns door ...... You saw my pics on the Osf major rust but nothing externally. They did come to the party and say yes it may go through therefore we will replace both doors and boot. Just be warned the key word here is PERFORATION. A hole .

Thanks Paul - I have some external rust on my OS driver's door but nothing external on the others, so I assume I'll get that done at least. My car was registered in Jan 2002 so it only has 8 months to rot through.

Bren

Okay update time 4.4.12 ...... Mr lexus assessor came out to look at the car and was in agreement...

Car now being booked in for new Osf door NSF door and boot lid....

You try and get this from any other manufacturer after nearly 11 years ....

Goes to show just how good lexus actually are in every aspect ....

Great result Paul - I had all my door cards off and have rust on all 4 so many thanks for the warnings. I will now engage and see if I can get them fixed. Did you go straight to Lexus or via a dealer?

Attached is a photo of my OS front door.

http://s1336.photobucket.com/user/snarler45/media/OSFDphoto_zps41d346ed.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0

http://s1336.photobucket.com/user/snarler45/media/OSFDphoto_zps41d346ed.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0

We all know Boris is a half wit - I thought why would you want to drive in London unless you live there so what the heck? The answer is I would struggle to get to Heathrow - the M25 is not included but the small roads are so it looks as if you would have to walk in. As soon as somebody points this out to the bond fool it will go away I am sure.

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/roadusers/lez/17678.aspx#tkt-tab-panel-2

It is April the 1st is somebody pulling my pud? Mark :)

Bren

Hi everyone - advice needed. I had my Mk4 converted to LPG in January at Leeds - really happy with it. However it has just started to show the signs of the dreaded starter motor worn bushes problem - - occasional click and no turning,

Phoned Chester Lexus who quoted a 'reasonable' price for a renovated starter, but when I mentioned the LPG they said they wouldn't touch it. My local garage said the same. Obviously the need to take the inlet manifold and related gubbins off means the LPG injectors need to be part of this removal.

Does anyone know of a place in the North West (or further!) who might be reasonable re this and actually quote? And has anyone experience of doing the job with LPG?

Just a little warning of the hidden costs and hassle of LPG I guess.

Cheers

The Lexus dealer local to me (Milton Keynes) is part of the Sytner Group and will not work on any LPG cars - they had a leak and blew up a garage apparantly - a bit of a shame because they are good. Coventry Lexus who are part of a different group will work on LPG cars. I use a local indi these days - they will work on the car provided they don't have to touch the pressurised part of the system.

I have not found the LPG conversion has increased my servicing costs - looks like you've had a bit of bad luck with your garages Gorodish.

Good luck in the future

Bren

I think that's a bit of an urban myth cos if the LPG leaks it stinks & can be detected immediately. The only case I know of was a motor home which caught fire whilst filling up because the owner hadn't screwed on the adapter properly.

Urban myth or not old lad - Synter Group will not work on LPG cars.

Bren

Hi everyone - advice needed. I had my Mk4 converted to LPG in January at Leeds - really happy with it. However it has just started to show the signs of the dreaded starter motor worn bushes problem - - occasional click and no turning,

Phoned Chester Lexus who quoted a 'reasonable' price for a renovated starter, but when I mentioned the LPG they said they wouldn't touch it. My local garage said the same. Obviously the need to take the inlet manifold and related gubbins off means the LPG injectors need to be part of this removal.

Does anyone know of a place in the North West (or further!) who might be reasonable re this and actually quote? And has anyone experience of doing the job with LPG?

Just a little warning of the hidden costs and hassle of LPG I guess.

Cheers

The Lexus dealer local to me (Milton Keynes) is part of the Sytner Group and will not work on any LPG cars - they had a leak and blew up a garage apparantly - a bit of a shame because they are good. Coventry Lexus who are part of a different group will work on LPG cars. I use a local indi these days - they will work on the car provided they don't have to touch the pressurised part of the system.

I have not found the LPG conversion has increased my servicing costs - looks like you've had a bit of bad luck with your garages Gorodish.

Good luck in the future

Bren

i think you get a bit further than 2/3 as far Jon but otherwise it's a fair summary. (It's72 hundredths as far)

I would like an answer from the technical types on here as to whether LPG installations can safely be leaned off to give the consumption that others are obviously achieving.

Mike

Hi Mike

It is more complicated than leaning the mixture a bit - there are commercial ECU remappers who advertise a 20% improvement in fuel economy if you have them work on your car.

I put an external chip (connected to the ODI port) on my car for a few months and it had minimal effect - it just seemed to get hot so I removed it.

Bren

On the question of LPG conversion, having had quotes from Profess and Leeds LPG I finally got to talk to a chap at Battersea Autogas who gave me a quote for a respectable £1300, not at all bad for a London based company and more convenient for me for future maintenance.

The questions I am left with are:

Is the Levato brand equipment they want to use any good as I have never heard of this company, and

Do I really need 'flashlube' as that adds a further £200 to the bill.

What do the LPG converts think, any opinions/advise appreciated as always.

Out of interest they will position the filler wherever I want it even behind the petrol filler flap, but to save any future issues I think i'll go for the rear bumper location just rearward of the driverside rear mudflap.

Looks like I might get my car gassed this year after all!

Hi Keith

I'm glad to see you are going to convert to LPG - a great move that you will not regret. I have my gas filler next to the petrol filler - this is the most convenient place for it. Why do you want to bend down to the back bumper when you fill up? I am fat and old so it is a consideration for me. Also your bumper (or anywhere low down) is the first place to get bumped so you may be putting your filler in a vulnerable place. Also LPG pumps can be a pain to connect so having the hole low down will only add to any

difficulty.

Good luck

Bren

I will check brake lights tomorrow. I know the brake fluid is ok coz I checked yesterday.That was fine yesterday. If its brake light, I wander what the small amount if vibration is when braking. it never happens at any other time. The last time the brake pads were changed was about 20,000 miles ago approx, according to the history I have. Depending on how driven, whats the average lifespan of brake pads?

Bren

Hi Tom

It depends how you drive but you will have a couple of thousand miles - a good tip is don't let the warning light come on because it burns the sensor cable which costs half as much as the pads - keep an eye on pad wear and swap them before they are all the way down.

Bren

Just to scare you all ......

This is the drivers door internally half way down where the trim fits...... Not one sign of rust in the same place on the outside though !!!!image.jpgimage.jpg

It worked I'm scared - is it the same on all 4 doors?

Bren

I just took a look at mine and I have a very small ammount of bubbling by the drivers side door mirror - looks like I owe Paul a big thank you for the alert and I have to eat humble pie because of my rant about early model LS430s not being rot boxes - So thanks Paul - bit of a shortage of humble pie in my fridge though :)

Looks as if it is only on the drivers door so I will have that apart on Sunday, if the weather is good and see what is happening.

Bol"£cks not what you expect from a Lexus :(

Bren

The Parrot kit in my GS is fitted below and to the right of the glovebox and I think the guy fitted the one in the SC under the centre console. Don't know it that helps at all but good luck with it.

There is a control unit that sits on top of the dash but the main unit (blue box) is in the boot of a LS430 not far from the Nav DVD unit. It required a long cable to be installed when the unit was originally fitted.

Bren

Ok back to the topic......

Just been to the Bodyshop and they imaged the rust and then checked the thickness of the paint in microns, and took pictures, 140 microns of paint.....

The guy said it needs 3 doors and a boot as they won't bother to try and repair them, so will contact me soon.

All images sent to lexus and we now wait

Good luck Paul.

I think I will have a peep inside my doors my car has just started year 12 :)

As far as I can tell there are no external signs of rust.

Bren

Hi Guys

Plenty of views but no replies does anybody have experience of going from the Gen2 Nav system to a Gen4 - an early LS430 to a later (face lift model) is probably what I am talking about.

Bren

First time I have heard of a exParrot.... Or is it

Seriously sorry for your bad luck

and it is Blue :) Do they make them in Norway?

Commiserations appreciated Ray - I cannot get my hands in where the damn thing is stuffed so I will have to seek help

Good news today though - I just had my seat fixed by my local garage. It needed weding and a fab shop next door to CGR was able to weld aluminium so my fat bum is not wobbling the seat any more.

Now for the Parrot :)

Bren

Try this linkhttp://www.sgs-engineering.com/gas-struts/re-gassing-service

Looks good - their new struts are £35 delivered so I may just go for those. They are cheaper than what I bought a few years ago.

Thanks

Bren

Is that each strut, or for a pair?

Good question Keith and thanks - it clearly states Strut (singular) on their site so it is for one and hence me thinking they are cheap. So for me it is re-gassing or BMW struts as recommended by Paul.

Bren

My figures are at the poor end of the ranges being quoted above (about 17 round town and 21mpg on a run. I am pretty gentle on the throttle in fact I drive it in snow mode to make sure.

When I did the research it seemed to me that the energy content of LPG was nearer 70% than 80% of petrol. And that fits exactly with the results from my LS430.

If this is true, I worry that the only way the LPG engineers can get better than '30% worse' is to tune it to run lean - which has got to be a bit worrying surely?

Mike

Mike, I'm not sure that driving in snow mode will help with the fuel economy. Snow mode keeps the gearbox in a lower gear so you are, in fact using more acceleration with the car in a lower gear. Try you car in power mode for a week or two, I'm sure your mpg will increase.

Graham.

I think you'll find that snow mode means it stays in a higher gear for longer

Snow Mode sets off in 2nd so you don't spin the wheels (reduces the torque) - I expect it half shifts (or less) to keep the torque to the back wheels down. Don'f forget eco mode half shifts i.e. full torque about half throttle - PWR mode is max power shift. The LS 430 will optimise the engine and gear box performace to your driving style and the driving you do. I cannot see you wanting to drag through the gears on the motorway - you want to get up to cruising speed asap and keep rolling. On the other winding the car up and away from traffic lights or round abouts and then jamming on the brakes at the next stoppage will cost you a ton of fuel round town. So Mike is probably benefitting from this very sensible approach.

Mike do you do a lot of motorway/long distance driving and have you tried using the other modes when doing so?

Bren

Try this link

http://www.sgs-engineering.com/gas-struts/re-gassing-service

Looks good - their new struts are £35 delivered so I may just go for those. They are cheaper than what I bought a few years ago.

Thanks

Bren