williz

have a look at sonyericsson HCB 700 at http://www.sonyericsson.com/spg.jsp?cc=gb&...pp4_1&pid=10302

it uses a different approach than the parrot, no addressbook sync, uses the handset functions, offers voice digit dialing and more.

Hi Williz

Many thanks again for your help

my E mail address is' rsaun46318@aol.com'.

I do not have any information on the phone (Nokia 6310i or the Bluetooth kit) This info will be very interesting.

regarding the Austrian Christmas Concert from Vienna. There is a waiting list of around 10 years for tickets (so we believe) and the cost is very very high.. have you ever seen it on TV. It is Very Popular over here and very high quality entertainment Kind Regards Roy

This is for all of you who like to know how the story ends.

After e-mailing the Manuals for SonyEricsson HCB 30 and Nokia 6310i as .pdf files I received today the following success mail from robroy:

“Dear Willi

What else can I say but a very big Thank You. The information you sent me was just what I required . I have been out this morning testing the kit as we live in a poor signal quality area and it all works fine. Even the voice dialling.”

Williz,

I really do appreciate your help with this.. and thank you once again for giving me your time. My Nokia phone is not voice enabled or even fitted with a camera... Just a basic 2/3 years old Nokia.. I am interested in gadgets (probably like your goodself) and I would feel really good if I can make this work... By the way we pull a German 5.4 Tabbert caravan and we have been to Salzburg and Mayrhofan touring

in your lovely country.... My wife Jean, says to ask you can you get any tickets for he Vienna Christmas Choir Concert ?? (I think I know the answer to that one)

regards Roy

1.) i need some more details about the vienna christmas chor concert (place, date, time, how many persons, price range) and than we can investigate (you are now a member of the lexus owners family!)

2.) if i got you right, your phone is a NOKIA 6310i? if this is so than your phone supports voice dial and voice comands besides Bluetooth. at least the manual from nokia UK says so. if so you can initiate a call via voice dial, if not you must initiate the call from your handset.

3.) if you PM me your e-mail address i will send you the manual for the HCB 30 and for the nokia 6310i.

4.) to connect your HCB 30 with you phone you have to put your HCB 30 first in pairing mode, and than you must know the passkey which have to be entered in your phone (hcb 30 passkey is "0000") to finish the pairing sequence. but this is all easy if you have the manuals and follow the instructions there.

lets take the next step and PM me your e-mail address.

hope it looks like these?

Thanks Williz

Right first time. Your picture is exactly what I have in the RX.... How do I make it work?

Any ideas?

Roy

first congratulations, this is a good one. supports voice dial if your handset is supporting it and the voice quality is good as well. i would give a lot if the hands free system in the RX400h would be that good.

are you familiar with the bonding (conecting your nokia with another Bluetooth device) process of your nokia handset?

i will send you a description how the HCB30 works. is very simple you will see.

i will be back on the internet in about 2 hours.

hope it looks like these?

what brand is the bluetooth mobile phone kit?

Hi Williz

I've really no idea of the brand of the Bluetooth kit.... The kit installed in the RX300 consists of a microphone protruding between the sun visors. A speaker in the passenger footwell and a small 'rocker type switch affair with a plus and minus sign illustrated.. When the ignition is on the kit can be made to ring

when either the plus or minus side of the rocker is pressed...

The are little sketches of a 'phone hand set on this rocker which are illuminated 'blue' when the ignition is on.

The bottom sketch of the handset has a 'line' through it...

Best I can do I'm afraid. Never had Bluetooth before.

Does it mean anyting to you ?

Best regards Roy

sounds like sony ericsson HCB 30.

i will make a picture of the HCB 30 and will post it here, if it is a HCB 30 i can give you detailed instructions how to "bond" your handset with the Bluetooth car hands free.

lets keep fingers crossed!

what brand is the Bluetooth mobile phone kit?

First of all, please don’t get me wrong here. My last Bluetooth hands free car kit for 250,- EUR was supporting voice dial and the voice quality was much better than the lexus (denon) hands free system.

I keep telling Lexus Europe now for many month that I am not willing to accept such outdated technology for so much money.

But we all have to live with that hands free system for some time and therefore I think we should share as much information as we can to make our live at least acceptable.

The car hands free is supporting two Bluetooth protocols, one is the HFP (Hands Free Profile, this is normally used for headsets)

and the other is the OPP (Object Push Profile, this is normally used for data transfer between computers).

It very much depends what protocol your handy is using when connecting (binding) with the car hands free. I don’t like to get in to much detail here but if you’re handy is not using the HFP protocol for the normal voice send receive and the call establishing then the problems some of you describing here are “normal”.

So how can we get most out of it, I suggest the following:

1. using a handy described in the Lexus list as fully compatible (for example the Qtex 8030 is not in the list, the Qtex 9090 is fully compatible). And the handy must have the latest software version on, in many cases older software versions make serious troubles and not even work with hands free system from the same brand!

2. Stick to the “pairing procedures for Bluetooth handsets” from Lexus Europe (available for 54 handy´s now) for establishing the connection between handy and car hands free (binding) and transferring the phonebook entry’s from handy to car hands free.

3. before you start please delete all old connections from your car hands free and switch your handy off and on again in order to get a ”clean” system to work with (keep in mind that your handy is a multitasking system with many tasks running in the background and some times one of this tasks is already crashed but your handy is not showing it to you).

4. if you have bad voice send- receive levels then you can try to adjust this by changing the send- receive level in the Bluetooth service menu (in many cases this is increasing the voice quality dramatically!).

http://www.clublexus.com/forums/attachment...tid=64730&stc=1

http://www.clublexus.com/forums/attachment...tid=64731&stc=1

(this are screenshots from a GS but it looks the same in the RX). To enter this menu switch on the ignition, hold the info button and switch on and of the lights 4 times (or go to you dealer and make him doing this adjustments for you).

Meantime we are discussing these issues further with Lexus Europe in order to get things a bit more customer oriented. One first result is this handy compatibility chart and the “pairing procedure for Bluetooth handsets” soon be available on Lexus Europe homepage.

This are my personal experiences with a Sonyericsson V800/Z800 and my RX400:

After resetting (switching off and on) the telephone, binding with car hands free worked with out any problems. Normal telephone functions have been ok.

When I tried to send the telephone book to the car, the V800 refused to send it via Bluetooth and when I selected send telephone book on the car hands free the connection was terminated immediately.

At that point I was really frustrated. After cooling down I started to thinking and I found out that the V800 automatically connected to the hands free by activating the hands free profile.

Normal hands free sets are using HFP and HFP is normally not used to send/receive DataStream’s.

Question was now, how do I get the car hands free and the V800 connecting to each other by using the OPP in order to get the “send telephone book” working.

The key to success was to initiate a binding after the selection of “send telephone book” on the cars hands free system (connection terminated). When you do a binding at that point the V800 is binding with the OPP as it would be binding with a computer or PDA. Then you can transfer the telephone book. After transferring the telephone book you must delete this connection and reconnect using the HFP. From that moment on the V800 is automatically connected after switching on the car and every thing works ok.

In order to allow the automatic connection between the car and the V800 the V800 should be in the main menu (means you should not have any messages like missed calls or sms messages on the handy screen) otherwise the automatic binding is very often not working, if this happens it is best to switch the handy off and on again (this is also the case with Z600 and V800/Z800 using sonyericcson car hands free systems like HCB 30 or HCB 300)

lexus europe has finished testing of 57 handy models 3 weeks ago. only 4 or 5 are not working at all.

but most of the handy models (especially from nokia and motorola) are not supporting the "sending of the whole phonebook at once" function. so if your handy is not supporting this function you have to send each phonebook entry one by one to the car hands free.

lexus will post a users guide on there lexus europe homepage in the next weeks. if you know your handy type i can send you a preliminary version of the users guide (how to bind handy and car hands free and send your phone book to the car hands free) or i can tell you if there are limitations with that model. here is a preliminary version of the test result from lexus.

http://www.lexusclub.ch/bluetooth/System05..._Liste_2006.pdf

by the way, there are 17 short dial numbers you can use while your car is moving. in addition you can use all your handy functions like voice dial, phonebook dial directly with your phone and when connection is established the call is handed over to the car hands free.

so there are many ways to establish your calls but please keep in mind that searching thru some hundred phone numbers while driving is really dangerous!!!!!

That's the point. For our european models, we pay more for less features...

Just have a look to the us user guide to understand how badly considered we are.

I don't understand why:

- we can't set the doors auto-locking mode (perhaps car jacking doesn't exist here?)

- one must unlock all the doors to have the backdoor open, and wait for the complete backdoor shutdown to be able to lock the car.

- when you park your car, the lights remain on - when set to auto - until you open the door.

- we can't have the automatic folding of rear view mirrors

- we are to cope with the standard power outlet (12 VDC) where us cars own also a 115 VAC

- one has decided we don't need the homelink feature, nor to choose to pay a premium for the adaptative cruise control

- lexus managers think we're so stupid we can't play with the same kind of bluetooth and gps systems than bmw or mercedes car drivers have, unless it's we're so smart we would all use the us tricks?

By the way, I'm amazed to see how quickly it is to have the car batteries drained when fully accelerating...

and please dont forget the warranty difference between 3 and 5 years resp. 5 and 8 years!!!!!! and in most cases customer service not comparable to Lexus US or mercedes or BMW in europe.

i have written a letter to Toyota Motor Marketing Europe about all that. i am waiting now for there reaction.

i fully agree with Ferenc.

we spending premium money and getting less than US customers.

the other thing is that i experienced that lexus europe is willing to listen.

i have gone now thru a long process of summarizing all complains about hands free and handy problems (pairing, phonebook transfer and audio quality). as a result lexus europe have tested around 57 handys in the last weeks and will come up with a internet based information about compatible handys and a detailed procedure for each to connect to the car hands free and tranfere the phonebook. a pre-release version will go out to the lexus dealers in the next days. i suggested to make some changes (reducing the complexity of technical info useless for most customers and adding the handy software version to the info) for the internet based customer version.

if we like to make things change we must put a sound story together and bring it to the attention of lexus europe management.

they must know what there customers think and feel and i personally have the impression that lexus dealers are not speaking for there customers or even lexus europe is not listen to them.

so please put your agreement as a reply in here.

williz

Hi all, I've got my 2006 RX 400h last week in Belgium. Just to confirm: none of the tricks work what I found on this nor the US web site in different threads except the bluetooth connection setting which seams to really improve sound quality of mic and speaker.

Due to my work I drive a lot and I am used to get the navigation system handled by my passanger all the time on the move while I drive and I make phone calls regularly from the car to save time. I hoped when I ordered my car back in December last year that the tricks to override the 'nannying' will solve all my worries. I am quite disappointed to experience now that none of the overriding solutions work here in Europe. As I see in this and other threads I am not alone with this. From all other aspects the car is excellent.

Just like many other RX 400h owners in Europe I will be checking on the new messages here and on other threads regularly until a savior angel comes to us with the European solution. Besides, I support the idea of making a petition to Lexus about overriding the annoyingly disabled bluetooth phone and nav system while on the move as many people have already suggested this but no action was taken as far as I know.

How do we start on this?

yes, lets do it! we all have to accept this first page of text reading that "driving a car is dangerous" and so on. i think this is by far enough for european law.

disabling it in addition to that is realy to much!

williz

sorry, i am not allowed to send e-mails via this board (i am registered in the international lexus owners club)

send me an e-mail to my normal e-mail account wzach@netway.at and i will send you the two files.

willz

wa not doing it electronicaly? look here http://us.lexusownersclub.com/forums/index...showtopic=26453

you will find all manuals in pdf form.

if this is not working send me an e-mail and i will send you the 2 pdf files for the nav.

hope this is helpfull!

williz

there is definetly no 12V starter on the system.

as fare as i know, the combustion engine is startet from the front e-motor.

12V batterie is only userd for getting the car electronic up and running.

the V6 engine is only controled from drivetrain computer system.

not the reply that your probably wanting but...... YUK !!!!!

Why on earth would anyone stick that one a RX400h ??

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no, good question.

i startet with that stuff many years ago on my mercedes as a gravel protection. since then i had it on all my mercedes.

but you are right. my be i should wait and see if gravel is causing paint damage around weelhousings.

is there any idea where i can get (Fender Trim) for the RX400h? (company shown is selling it only for RX300 (not for RX330 and 400)

regards

williz

does somebody have a complete lists of all voice comands for the RX400h?

i have one for the RX300 but the RX400 should have more comands

thanks in advance

regards

williz

Hi,

I have just ordered a new RX400h SE-L. Took a test drive, very excited to get it next month. One of the main points I like about the car is the technology which leaves BMW far behind at the moment. However,

A few things concerned me though reading some of the posts. Am I correct in thinking that the phone book cannot be accessed while the vehicle is moving ? If this is the case, then this would defeat the point in me having a carkit as I will more than likely reach for the handset. Can the voice commands dial from the phonebook ?

Also I am interested in being able to watch the DVD on the main front screen. There are plenty of valid reasons for this as a previous post here suggested. Waiting for my girlfriend shopping, waiting to get on the ferry to Ireland which takes 2 hours and I do quite a bit. There was a cable I got for my old BMW which could bypass this. Also I am interested in connecting an Ipod to the system as the FM transmitter method is not very good especially when travelling long distances (the frequency constantly needs changing) so a direct connection would be nice.

Can anyone help with these queries and suggest somewhere to take the car to have this type of work done. I looked on the internet but everywhere seems to do stuff for BMW but not for Lexus.

Many thanks

Luppo.

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i had long discussions about voice dialing using the Bluetooth connection with lexus europe. voice dialing is definetly not supported with the current version. so i decided to install a third party Bluetooth hands free car kit.

for ipod and video/DVD connections look at these http://www.vaistech.com/

regards

williz