went out for a meal last night, all the snow melted on the roads so out came the lex. came out of the pub and it had been snowing anyway to cut a long story short driving at about 20mph on a straight road and the rear end slid out, spinning and sliding on the small hills got half way home and gave up, left car in supermarket carpark to find an easier way home. the front wheel drive cars were rubbish so you can imagine how bad the IS was . tonight my car is back home in one peice :D snow :tsktsk: mode :D