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Hello all, Firstly thanks to anyone that participates in this forum. I am a long time lurker and this forum has answered so many questions I've had during my ownership! As the title suggests I want to discuss the current pricing of the ISF. Whilst always monitoring the market I have been monitoring the pricing since July very closely with a mind to sell my (USB MY10) 73k mile example in the new year. To help other owners I have built a spreadsheet which I will continue to add to where possible of the current listings and any previous listings I have record of. This sheet tracks the initial list price and the current price at todays date. if there were any reductions. As for past listings the price is the initial list price and last known price before taken down or sold. I will share the link to the spreadsheet here - Click Hereye I will also attach a screenshot for general ease. With all that information, the current used car market being down and RCF prices dropping into the very low twenties, where does that leave us? Based on the information I can see we are left in a position of £14-18k for 08-10? and £18-24k for 11+? depending on mileage and condition of course. With used car values on the decline since the huge bump over the last year or two I can't say I'm too surprised. Especially including the Yen to the Sterling rate recently I'm not surprised more potential buyers are looking that way. But still our Lexus' still depreciate less than all that new tat on the markets today! £700 p/a tax seem to put a few potential buyers off who I've spoken to especially, without getting political, the new labour government in and their ever-changing stance on road tax, I don't see them being too friendly to 5.0 V8s! With all that being said I'm thinking around £17.5k for my USB MY10 73k mile in the new year. FLSH etc. I will share more details closer to them time when I make the listing. Also considering how long it seems to take to sell these cars, typically way over 6 months I'm not sure I'll be overly ambitious with my pricing. Thanks for reading, I hope other owners find this useful as I have when keeping an eye on my car's value.

I think the models are different. The Takumi is the only model to have ‘performance dampers’ - I would definitely suggest a long test drive. All EV’s are much heavier than petrol equivalents and the performance dampers are meant to minimise ‘dive’ under breaking. But on the other hand the 20” wheels will bring a harsher ride. As you’re going for a Premium Plus make sure the dealer doesn’t give you a Takumi demo. I was initially surprised how harsh the ride was and then read on here that Lexus vastly over inflate the tyres at the factory for the long sea crossing. I checked mine and they were well up - reduced them to just below recommended and a different car. I didn’t like the Dunlop summer tyres so had Cross Climate 2 put on, much quieter in my opinion.

"+ Birmingham" got a good chuckle out of me:

Yes 38k should easily be possible. My wife's NX had disks and pads changed at about 60k I think and my RX has original ones at about 44k so far. Paul

Good point @saqib_v8 well made. I think most people will look to import, if you are expecting to own the car over 2 years you'll save a good chunk on Tax alone. Additionally JDM cars are said to be generally cleaner underneath and very meticulously maintained! With that being said a UK car with FLSH (like mine) will be appealing generally speaking. Even with the ~ £700 tax!

18" wheels are now available as an option on all trim levels, I think this provides a smoother ride and better range, but it can adversely affect other factors including cornering / stability and stopping distance so it depends what your preference is (plus how good the suspension is in the vehicle). For example: https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/features/are-bigger-wheels-really-ruining-ride-quality and https://www.jdpower.com/cars/shopping-guides/what-difference-does-the-wheel-size-make When on a test drive last week of an RZ 450e Premium Plus (4WD), we found the ride to be good, better than my 2016 NX 300h (18" wheels) 4WD and almost as smooth as our 2021 UX 300e (17" wheels) Front wheel drive. Handling most manhole covers, speed bumps and potholes well. My SO and I took it in turns to sit in the back to look after our baby and both had the same opinion of the ride quality.

Hello, the idea I have for the repair has several phases for me. 1-read fault codes 2-change transmission oil, because the one you have is not ATF due to color and smell, ATF is cherry red, this one is gold, I think the previous owner did Mercedes transmission oil 3-if it doesn't work, measure ohms and check solenoids, 4-If it doesn't work, then I will lower the gearbox and open it, inspect the clutches and rubber seals, which is where I think the fault is, it loses pressure due to the rubber packing and does not compress the clutches well, then they start to slip, burn out and the gearbox no longer moves, in the rear yes because the reverse clutch packs go in other packs, and if there is reverse gear the converter works and the oil pump too. but I need to execute the correct steps what do you think?

Interesting as I'm also looking to part ways with mine in the next 6 to 12 months. I do feel that the government may make that very difficult with a potential tax hike (one of the reasons I think it's time to call it a day). Thanks for the spreadsheet. I feel pricing an ISF is a completely random affair. I have a 60k 2010 USB, which will make the sale a lot easier compared to some, but I feel for ease I'll be headed to a dealer to see what they'll price it up as, when the time comes.

Put it on Autotrader, deal with all the usual muppets, after you spent £90 on an advert [ Autotrader are absolute robbers ] then have all the hassle of , do you take cash mate ? Can I swap my motorcycle, or horse box ? Eh up mate….what’s the warranty ??? is it minter , has it a stone chip ? my mates a mechanic ,can he thrash it around then condem it please…. whats best price ….via e Mail of course, people can’t call you anymore ! you can see why Motorway , We Buy Any Car etc are easy, guaranteed payment , and no Private Idiots asking for a warranty etc .

I've had the UX as a courtesy car and was very impressed with how it dealt with bad roads, far better than the RC I had at the time. I have had the RZ on a test drive, over the same roads and it wasn't as composed but have to say it was slightly better than my current RX. Trouble is there are so many influences vying for attention it's difficult to get a genuine impression until one has lived with a car for some time..

I bought a one year old RZ Premium Plus a couple of weeks ago and am delighted with everything including the ride. However, my 2 back seat passengers thought the ride a bit “Jiggly” on one occasion, I haven’t tried as a passenger myself so don’t know but is definitely all good in the front. I believe Lexus are offering a 24 hour test drive at the moment so I would take up this offer for final confirmation. I have owned a GS, RX and ES before this along with an iPace, several Mercs, BMW etc and the RZ beats them all in my book. Good luck. Bob

Good morning, Potential new member here with some questions, I currently have a 2016 RSQ3 and am looking at the NX300H and Kia Sportage to replace it. I have been looking at a 2020 Lexus NX300H, top spec model, I have read loads of reviews and getting conflicting information, so thought I would ask owners: 1) Is is noted by some the car is very slow and not safe to overtake cars and has not power? Is this your real world experience? (Currently have to overtake a tractor on a country road every other day on my journey to work) 2) The ride is described as bouncy and crashy and not great over anything other than a smooth road, is this your experience? 3) Anything else I should know? Be mindful off? 4) Has anyone else changed from a quick car to an NX300H and what has your experience been? Thanks for your help. Much appreciated.

Yeah Malc. My son just bought two (2000 Platinum editions) which we are going to have fun restoring. They've done around 600,000 miles between them but of course are good for a lot more. This means we've got 4 between us now and I know my lovely wife isnt gonna see the funny side of me getting her one for Xmas.

You need to have the daylight saving button off ...

If Lulu Was Singing Boom Bang A Bang It Just Might...!!!!!! You Would Have to Rock Back and Forth Though...!!!

ACP is Apple Car Play & the car's ability to hold its own in the Fast lane is impressive. ACP is understood in All Other Forums. A Great Car. Tel

Apologies for perhaps being impertinent but Lbx owners would do well to log on to the Toyota owners forum Yaris section where owners have been going through exactly the same flat 12 volt battery issues for years. There is a pinned thread where you will find a variety of solutions and you just pick whichever you will find the most convenient.

ACP - Apple Car Play I would say, although not sure why it would surprise many on the motorway? 🤔

I have to make do with OEM 100% wool Celsior ones. 😀

I've never viewed a UK ISF as a hinderance because of the higher VED, just a nice bonus having a JDM and paying slightly less. I'm assuming Birmingham isn't a compliment!

Acronym -- WTF !

why confuse with abbreviations that nobody understands

Crickets. I guess they are getting hard to find now. I'm gonna visit some scrapyards in UAE in a week's time, I will have a look for you.

This is the first time that I have had run flat tyres. (I would rather have a spare wheel!) I believe a lot of BMW owners change to "normal tyres" because of cost and ride quality.

Phone The local Lexus Dealership and ask For any Recommendations where to take your car ..I'm Sure they will be able to Help..!!!

Glad I could be helpful @LukeG - I'll message you some details regarding my car but I am only looking to let it go in the new year. If that works for you then I'm sure we can have that conversation.

wow, thanks for this info. I thought I had been paying close attention to the market, evidently not as close as you! As a potential buyer this is also very useful, im viewing a car soon and this definitely helps me make sure im not paying over the odds. If that sale doesn't come to fruition @MarcusHarding your car seems right up my street so I would be interested in hearing more about it when you're looking to sell in the new year. Also @RichGS11 I could be interested in yours depending on price of course and if I still haven't found the one by the time you're selling! Been following you on instagram for a while haha! Yeah the road tax situation definitely makes the prospect of buying a 5.0 v8 daunting but I guess if not now then when! Thanks again Marcus, super super helpful

2-change transmission oil, because the one you have is not ATF due to color and smell, ATF is cherry red, this one is gold, I think the previous owner did Mercedes transmission oil I think you have figured out why the ATF is not cherry red as it should be for Toyota/Lexus, I watch the YouTube channel below, SPR Autos - Mercedes Specialist, when they drain the Transmission the fluid it is a golden colour so I think you are correct. I think Mercedes use mostly Gold coloured ATF but also use Red ATF, depending the model/transmission/year.

I'm not sure it will connect and read the codes on OBD1. I will be at the Lexus Dealer later to pickup my wife's IS250 after MOT and Service so will ask what is needed to read the transmission codes on a LS400 94-97. Link to Lexus Intelligent Tester 2 information: Toyota Intelligent Tester 2 Dealer level Diagnostics IT2 - Pro Auto Diagnostics

Not sure we’ll reach many more Signatures to the AGE. UK. Petition WINTER FUEL PAYMENT 561,945 Signatures an excellent outcome 👏👏👏 Malc

Now your making me feel really old….. Lexus weren’t even around when I was in my mid 20s 😆😆😆😆,

I know there is, or was, a Toyota handheld scanner/code reader, maybe the Toyota/Lexus workshop still have one that will work and will let you use it? I remember seeing one of these for sale a while ago, I’ll find more information about the scanner, part number etc., and post it here or message you.

I don’t have blue fake leather - it is the eco friendly ultrasuade! Was initially underwhelmed by it compared to the real leather in my Range Rover, but after 18 months of supporting a 18 stone 6’ 2” lump it looks brand new so may be more durable than real or fake leather. Fake leather reminds me of the Mercedes case where about 3 years ago someone took them to court, and won, over miss-selling his E Class as having leather seats. Mercedes had to admit that the sides and some other bits were not leather but they said it was for durability. They changed all their marketing material.

Yes funnily enough I was looking myself on ebay just to get a rough idea. They don't seem too expensive but my garage said they'll get it tested for me but the guy who does these is in Toronto for a couple of weeks on holiday. So I'll drop the car in when he's back. It's moving like it's in limp mode so I'll drop it off late one evening. He said they can sometimes be repaired so 🤞

I agree , crap selection, and blue fake leather interior!!!

You have to do this every trip but it only takes a moment. All the other systems are there so you can switch off what you want to.

https://www.ottocast.com/ Very simple to use .

I would understand the radiator pricing before you get carried away with all this 🤔 My 2006 Honda Legend suffered this same radiator fate earlier this year with bust gearbox cooling pipe issue as happens with the Ls430 etc ……. Honda could only source the OEM radiator from the Honda Holland EU store at @£1600 🥵. ……. I used Autodoc online and in their 60% discount sale got one from Lithuania at less than £200 ( I’m thinking 🤔 ) So take care eh ! good luck Malc

Matt, which Wireless CarPlay adaptor did you buy ? I am considering buying one and am looking for recommendations....Thanks

Hi Malc, Exactly, I will tell them to replace the radiator and water pump while they are at it. A few quid more now will save thousands in the future I think. I will update on what (if anything) else they find on Friday.

Hakan hi, are you having the timing belt replaced ? along with the waterpump while they’re in there taking it all apart 🤔 Wisdom would have it that you do maybe ……… and maybe the radiator too …….. if it’s all 10 years / 100k miles since last all done ! Malc

Having made the switch to a new Toyota CH-R after two Lexus NX300h and a 450h, I thought I’d post some of my thoughts here (similar to a post I made on the Toyota forums). I’ve now had my own CH-R Excel for just over two weeks, and a Design courtesy car for a week prior to that while mine was being prepared. I thought it might be interesting to articulate my initial impressions after a few miles, and having downsized from my 2021 Lexus RX 450h. First, the good. I’m very happy with my choice, and the downsize hasn’t shown as many compromises as I feared. I now only complete 2-3k miles each year, so a smaller car was a sensible switch, but even so I did love my RX and did approach the change with some trepidation. I needn’t have. The interior quality is excellent (mainly). The technology works well, and I like the touchscreen vs my previous Lexus ‘trackpad.’ The drive is also very good, being quiet and refined. I’m actually surprised at how quiet the car is, despite a long test drive some months ago. It is largely very impressive (but more on that later). The dealer did try and convince me to drive the 2.0 litre CH-R first but, knowing how limited my mileage was going to be, I decided to try the 1.8 instead. As it seemed perfectly adequate I went with that. It’s no ball of fire, but I value refinement and smoothness more these days and I find it perfectly acceptable for my needs. Equipment levels on the Excel are also good enough for me. I’ve lost ventilated leather seats and a HUD - neither of which bother me. I have also lost an opening glass roof which is a shame. I’d have preferred the option, but it is what it is. A heated steering wheel should also be included imho. I must also comment on the quality of the switchgear - indicator stalks, buttons, steering wheel etc. It really is very good and gives a real impression of being well designed and nice to use. What don’t I like so much? I would have preferred a rear wiper, but don’t find it too problematic. I would also have liked ‘dipping’ mirrors as I’ve said on another thread. Yes, I know I have 360 degree cameras, but to this driver it’s still easier to place the car when reversing with the simple old school dipping mirrors that I’ve had on every car for twenty years plus. I’m sure I’ll get used to it, but even so - simple sometimes just works better! The dashboard reflects in the front windscreen quite a lot, which is a bit off-putting initially. I did say interior quality was impressive - and I think it is - the exception being the rear door cards which are pretty cheap in comparison with the front. Hardly the end of the world, and common to other cars I test drove, but seems to be a bit unnecessary to me. I guess the savings over thousands of cars all add up. Generally the car is very quiet on the move, but the Design spec courtesy car I had was quieter. I can only assume it’s down to the tyres. My car has Bridgestone Turanza, whereas the courtesy car had Falken. I have to admit that Falken have been my brand of choice for years, being a great balance between price and performance, whereas Bridgestone haven’t been so good on previous Honda cars. I’ll be looking to change them to all season tyres after a few months. Last thing. I’d have preferred a rear parcel blind rather than an old fashioned shelf. But that’s a proper ‘first world’ complaint! Overall it’s a solid 8.5/10. I really like the CH-R, and am comfortable that I made a good choice. I do miss the Lexus, but not as much as I thought I would. The biggest compromise isn’t the power, or the space, and certainly not the quality as the two cars are remarkably similar in that regard. The biggest compromise is ride quality, but even then the Toyota isn’t bad in comparison with its peers, just in comparison with the RX.

Here are the instructions from the user manual detailing how to do this (page 32 of the PDF version):-

Just to round this off - I'm pleased with the new Osram Xenarc 220 bulbs having now done a few long night drives. The illumination is certainly better than the OEM originals but that may be due partly because the original were 10 years old! Dipped beam in paticular seems to have a better spread of light - not so much longer as that has the same cut off but generally better lit and particularly to the sides making it easier to follow the verge and miss the potholes...! Personally I like the colour temp as I find it illuminates well but is not tiring on the eyes. Full beam seems a bit longer but TBH the original OEM bulbs weren't too bad on full beam, it was the dipped beam that always seemed a bit lacking in spread and illumination. Anyway - anyone thinking of new HID bulbs should see an improvement with these over OEM original HIDs.

After looking around for a bit and some reading up I went for Osram Night Breaker 220 Xenarc - apparently for HIDs 4300K is actually the best colour temp for visibility with anything higher (or certainly over 5000K), although whiter/bluer which might suit personal choice, is scientifically (slightly) less good (given the same power etc.) for absolute visibility... They were £109 for the pair - 3 year guarantee on them but hope they do a bit more than that. Fitted them this morning and they look whiter than the ones I took out, which were original OEM and had been in the car 10 years before the first one expired. The OEM I took out were stamped Osram Xenarc on the base of the bulbs. The side next to the windscreen washer fluid was relatively easy to fit (after removing the washer fluid filler nozzle) although the plugs were really hard to get out of the socket as the tab to be pressed on the plug wasn't in an easy place and after 10 years they were well stuck! For the other side next to the air box I couldn't get enough leverage to open the case with the air box in place so had to unbolt it and pull it up to have it floating free to give me enough room to get my hands in and have enough leverage to rotate the case. Again, all probably easier when everything is new or recently opened, but after 10 years it needed a bit more effort... Anyway, all done now - will see if they are any different when next out at night. Thanks for all the advice and thoughts.

I had the same problem when I got my car last week. When I tried the "Connect Your Account" link, I got a login screen but when I tried to login using the "My Lexus" credentials nothing happened. No error messages to help. I figured out that I had to create a WiFi connection using the hotspot on my phone. This then allowed me to login and connect the account. I then set my profile to recognise my key and my phone. That got rid of the privacy notices and meant I could use my own profile rather than the Guest profile. i'm slowly working my way through my other issues 😀 As an aside, I noted the use of the word "Trial" when setting up services in the app. As a retired IT guy I was suspicious of this and it seems I was right to be. My initial impressions of the software are not great. I'm liking the car though.

Perfect! Thank you I am going to try and test drive one but this is really helpful. And your in Staffordshire like me 🙂

2019 model. Real life overtaking no problem, drop it unto sport mode if you want a bit more ‘go’. Bouncy and crashy? Nothing like that with mine. Wife says its the most comfortable car I’ve had

A test drive will be more useful than anecdotes. The CVT gearbox makes the engine sound noisy under hard acceleration but the power is there. You really need to test drive one to see how you find it. The ride is firm compared to my prwevious RX. Not unduly harsh but it depends what you are comparing it with. Let us know how you get on after a test drive.

Thanks, I don't think my budget would extend to a 350H or 450H unfortunatly. Certainly agree its not going to be as quick, however I just want to confirm its safe (able to overtake) and get out of a spot where some quick acceleration is required. Need to try and find one to test drive.