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It has eventually arrived at Lexus Swindon, collecting it this coming Thursday. NX350h Premium pack plus, Sonic Titanium with Dark Rose interior. Ordered 21st November 2021. Can't wait to get my hands on it.

Well I think my partner and I have really caught the Lexus bug! After getting our LC500h in May we've already traded it in against a beautiful Sonic Red V8! I can't knock the hybrid, it is exceptionally good for what it is, no issues at all with performance or economy, but of course it lacks that amazing V8 noise which you can only appreciate in person. Also the Sonic Red colour is just incredible!

The eCVT does require a different style of driving to a conventional automatic. I’m now on my third Lexus with eCVT (two NX and my current RX) and ‘wafting’ describes it well. You need to be much more progressive with the right foot - initially I was trying to ‘kick down’ and all that happens is the revs rise. With awareness of how it works, and driving to get the best out of it, I can safely say I’d be loathed to go back to either; - a traditional torque converter automatic with four or five gears where you need to kick down (with associated jerkiness and noise), or; - one of those hateful DSG gearboxes with the relentless ‘hunting’ for the right gear, delays and power loss when slowing down and then needing to speed up (as when approaching a roundabout)…and I certainly don’t miss the frequent repairs and inconvenience when the stupid thing went wrong!

It is not only down to economics. Although the vast majority of EVs currently sold will be company car drivers this will change. It seems to me the EV market in Holland is some 2 yrs ahead of the UK. When charging infrastructure is developing things start to move fast. The first adopters were the techies going for Tesla quickly followed by company car drivers going for it due to fiscal support. Currently almost 35% of new EVs in Holland are purchased by private people. Why? Well maybe as it is more economical, you charge at home with power from your own solarcells. But there is an other thing, people drive one because they like driving an EV. Just like some like driving a V8 petrol, simple as that. Each to their own i guess.

Very interesting discussion but at the end of the day it will be down to cost. Electric cars will be developed and become cheaper. It will be down to personal economics - if you can afford and wish to run a V8 petrol in the future that is fine. If you have a choice and the electric option is cheaper to run, then some people will go with that. I have never driven an electric car but I have no bias towards petrol. If I can get a car that fulfils my needs, then it will probably down to running costs. If you have £X to spend on owning a car and you have a straight choice between Car A and Car B then if A is cheaper to run you will buy that one. There is a certain amount of dogmatism regarding bashing electric cars - everyone has their opinion. I try and be open minded. Yes, owning an electric car takes more journey planning. If you can’t live with that inconvenience, then fair enough. I will probably stick with my petrol cars but I do understand the basic economics of people wanting to own an electric vehicle at this time - provided they can afford it.

Putting aside the climate argument, as it's not a claim I'm trying to make, let's focus on which is bettter. Your arguments are based solely on the situation today, and the false assumption that it will stay that way, which of course it won't. Already EV's are faster, have fewer moving parts, and are more energy efficient. Once they have lower prices (which they will), 500m+ range (which they will), faster charging (which they will), and widespread charging stations (which they will), then those arguments evaporate faster than your exhaust emissions. Simply put, EVs have far greater potential for innovation and improvement, with a variety of fueling options, which can lead not only to better cars, but also less reliance on the multinational oil cartel you seem to favour. I also take it you're aware that both ICE vehicles and oil are subject to inflation too.

Depending on how many from this forum are left in 2030 🙂

Had my V6 for 10 years Dan and it is brilliant. It is not a CVT as such, it is an e-CVT made by Toyota and unlike any so called CVT on the market. The e-CVT is thoroughly reliable and that cannot be said of any other transmission produced by anyone else. Continue to enjoy yours.

I read a thread here a while ago about a rusty 450 at not many years old that was purchased from a dealer in Scotland. At the first sign of frost up here, the amount of salt thrown on our roads is shocking and sadly Lexus (actually most japanese cars) are poorly protected underneath. I'd recommend proper rustproofing at the first opportunity - preferably when they are new as once it starts it's hard to stop. However in today's pcp throw away society it's the last thing on folk's mind, when a replacement comes along in a short space of time - much like a mobile phone. Pete

Even real leather, unless semi aniline, is totally impervious to surface treatments as it is coated and sealed with PU. A quick test to check is to place a drop of water on the surface, away from any seam or perforation. If the droplet just sits there you have a coated and sealed leather that requires no special conditioner. If the droplet is absorbed you have a 'naked' leather that will require very special and careful cleaning and conditioning, lots of hard work, believe me. I had my Mercedes retrimmed in a naked Nappa leather, felt wonderful and smelt glorious but my word did it need attention..

What does your handbook advise on cleaning and maintaining the seats? Mine is quite detailed and specific. Vacuum regularly and wipe down with a damp cloth. Occasionally or to remove stains wipe down with a clean oth dampened with a solution of wool detergent in water. Wipe dry with a clean cloth and never soak the seats. Allow to dry naturally. Applying creams and or conditioner can be quite detrimental as it may attract grit and dirt into any creases and eventually result in cracking. Be guided by your handbook

To date there has certainly been fewer reports of corrosion and water ingress on the series III 450h compared to the series II 350/400h. The jury is still out as to whether that is just age related or manufacturing improvements, but given these first came out in 2009 I think we are getting to the point where we can say they seem to be holding up better than its predecessor.

Hi, Newbie here from Dorset looking for my first Lexus, a 4th gen LS. Just test driven this one owner local car with FLSH today and thinking about making an offer. I wanted to say hello to the group and wondered if the previous owner based in Poole belonged to the forum too? Cheers, Furious

Now THAT would be something wont it haha

f..all, pal.

After a recommendation I've ordered with Kembla. They have a Portsmouth office so will cover Hampshire. Prices have risen in the last 9 months. The rapid rise of electricity prices have allowed companies to raise prices with demand, and the battery components are in short supply. I probably won't get it installed until March. 6.4 kWh 16 panels, 5kW inverter, 9.5 kWh battery (GivEnergy), bird protection, two lots of scaffolding due to east/west design. Getting on for £13k installed. E.on would be approx. £2.5k more for the same size battery, but offer 0% interest financing over 3 years.

Decision-order-instruction = input. Take your pick. 🤣

I don't recall saying they're saving the planet, in fact I said I was uncertain about such claims. I just said they were better, and in 10-15 years they'll be as affordable as any other new car.

There is and it is called WISDOM Bill !

"If you have £X to spend on owning a car and you have a straight choice between Car A and Car B then if A is cheaper to run you will buy that one. " subject to input from one`s wife ?

@H3XME That’s what I’m going to do is order a clutch and have it fitted and get them to advise on the flywheel and go from there my thoughts where also that it may just be down to a worn clutch not grabbing the flywheel properly

They will at some point. There aren't enough weld spots and too much reliance on adhesive that cracks with old age on the tailgate section of the body.

Normal .mine does the exact same from the day I bought it . 2016 fsport 👍

....forgot to add,my last car had dark tints at the rear,but I wasn,t aware of losing clarity or vision at night.

I fitted a Viofo A129 pro duo 4K. to my car about 6 months ago and it was fairly easy to fit and produces very good images. As to the view through the rear tinted windows,my car only has the normal very lightly tinted glass,so makes no difference.I think the rear camera should be fitted as close as possible to the rear screen and woul benefit from a polarising filter. If you buy direct from Viofo UK,you will get the best prices for accessories like polarising filters,hardwire kit and SD card.

Dual Mass Flywheel

Even in UK cover up. Terrible. So UK is having same problem like the rest of the world. Cover up is global. Yeah - Musketeer now is selling blue birds to all stupid enough to pay him. All these time-wasting aps controlling those stupid enough to waste their time there. Never had Facebook, Google+, Instagram, TikTok or Twitter, but have read about these spying, info-stealing aps. Next time set a tiger as long as tigers still are on earth.

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I grabbed one of the last remaining V6s on the used market that was almost new. Never had anything above 2.0L and this was a one off opportunity to get one. Not a big fan of CVTs but this car is ok, you don't really notice it wafting along. The other thing I like are real buttons and not touch buttons on a screen so it ticked the boxes for me.

I think the rust issues depend on where the car has lived. Mine had spent it's life in SW London and has no rust underneath. Check the MOT history of any prospective purchases to get some hints on condition. The odd crusty brake line is inevitable at 15+ years old but the MOT tester will note anything too flakey looking on the chassis/components too. They don't all leak, and I suspect there are a few known weak points to check. If the car has dry carpets/no sign of water under the boot floor (and someone hasn't removed the grommits/drilled holes) then it is probably fine. The sunroof drain blockage issue can afflict any car from any manufacturer.

I confess that I've never not even once sat on a horse but have always admired feats of horsemanship as a spectator. During a student year I spent at the University of Seville in the 60s I was befriended by a prominent local family that owned a private box at the local bullring, La Maestranza, and I was often invited to join them to watch the fights (which I would probably enjoy less today than I did then). One of the major events of the season was the rejoneo by the legendary Peralta brothers, Angel and Rafael, who fought and killed the bulls from horseback. The show they put on, with the horses completely unprotected from the bulls' horns, was balletic in its intricacy and all the more amazing since the horses' movements were controlled largely by the pressure of the riders' legs so that the hands could remain free for the fight and kill. Thrilling as this was, the best was yet to come when, a few weeks later the family, with me in tow, was invited by the Peraltas, with whom they were friends, to a wedding at their horse farm and estate not far from Seville. Here, as a gift to the newly-weds, the brothers and their staff and trainees put on a private rejoneo with blunt-horned tame or tame-ish bulls kept for training purposes (and not for killing) together with a riotous exhibition of virtuoso trick riding in which the participants tried to outdo one another. All dangerous good fun with, surprisingly, nobody ending up with a broken neck. The level of horsemanship was simply mind-boggling, and what has stuck in my memory is that the horses seemed to love it too.

Another point worth remembering is that the 300/400 have cam belts but the 350/450 have chains which don't require replacement

Yes that's the best way just once a month with a good leather cleaner nothing fancy just something simple like Autoglym LCB500 Leather Care Balm

This 50/50 picture shows the subtle difference between the bumpers.

A more accessible alternative to leather, the Takumi-crafted Black Tahara upholstery is more environmentally efficient to produce and features the look and suppleness of leather in a durable product that contains no animal-sourced materials. it is not at all leather, but is best cleaned with a leather cleaner

Hi Graham, this is very long shot, but I had the same problem years ago, with a brand new Alfa GTV, it took months of going backwards and forwards to the dealer, they couldn't fix it. They thought it was a problem with the windscreen washers, then they resealed the windscreen, meanwhile I was growing mushrooms in my ps footwell. I finally got a friend to look at it and it was an AC leak into the footwell behind the glovebox. Fixed instantly by redirecting the pipe.

I think there will be enough customers for the old Smokeys just from this forum alone after 2030 🤣

I think I read somewhere that the older model RX's had leak issues regarding the seams and around the rear light clusters, leading to leaks in the boot. Other things were corroded fuel filler lines. Initially I was looking at 300's and 400's and read about these isssues so in the end I bit the bullet, doubled my budget, and went for a 450h, without either a sunroof or roof rails. I've also treated and sprayed the underside and wheel wells with Bilt Hamber, and annually give it all a good spray with ACF 50 in the hopes of keeping any rust ay bay. To improve the chances of finding a relatively rust free car, I'd suggest avoiding any that have come from Scotland and the far north, or coastal regions.

When I bought an RX 300 for my wife, I found the best one I could find and apart from a slight rust scab on front wing, the body was in good order and interior was immaculate. Underside was ok, and certainly way better than the rust buckets I'd looked at previously.It had done just over 100,000 miles and had just had a cam belt fitted and was in good mechanical order. As I tend to keep cars for a long time, I used about 3 tins of bilt hamber underneath after applying rust treatment where required. In the 5 years we owned it, it was pretty reliable, but after about 4 years all of a sudden the entire floor became soaked. I investigated the problem and it was basically water entering the boot area. Try as I might, this was never resolved, but mitigated by drilling holes in boot floor and making a 'dam' between boot and interior. The water ingress was only discovered as I'd started to use a very hilly route to visit family who had moved house, and obviously, coming down a steep hill - the dam burst lol. Just over 2 years ago we decided that we needed to move the car on as the rust underneath had become really quite bad, plus it was picking up random issues - new front caliper after sitting idle during lockdown was the final issue. Our daughter in law also had an RX 300 with similar miles and condition, and it was rusty underneath too, but seemed to be leak free, but she moved hers on just before us. Would I have another - no. When a car starts to leak and rust becomes rampant it's time to move on. I've checked on the MOT history on the one we sold and it's had extensive welding underneath now, but is still on the road. The person I sold my LS400 to also had an RX 400, and his issues with leaks, rust etc ended in the car being scrapped. Any RX you go to see, make sure you have a really close look underneath and check for damp, plus be aware of the mpg these cars return. Pete

You're driving a Lexus LS. That is a £90k+ car, so yes you do need to spend that money to get the same today. You personally might not but someone has to for there to be your equivalent in 25 years time.

thought China did this some years back ...... penalty for having too many children was to execute them ? the kids, the parents or indeed the grandparents for giving birth to the miscreants in the first instance ??? . prison anyway methinks ........ Good 'ol Mao at the time was it .. Emperor Xi might be having similar Imperical / Imperial thoughts too now he's Boss I jest ( probably 🤔) Does anyone remember the outcome ? .......... just reading today the global population is now at 8 billion Ah, I do remember a world COP ? conference in Brazil some years back where the Authorities decided to clean up the areas prior to attendees arriving for the Conference .. maybe some 30 years back . maybe the very First COP Climate Conference it could have been ......... cleaned up the streets ok .......... all the waifs and strays and unsightly kids were rounded up and " disposed of " ......... methinks remedial executions did actually take place .. REALLY YES and no proof of course . easy for ( South American ) State decisions to be hidden for sure ....... jeez we even get " cover-ups " here in the UK with MI 5 / 6 if what we read in the Free Press is anything to go by ..... might even read this on Twitter as Musk seems to control this part of the world too ......... ( God help us all ....... well those who take any notice of Twitter . not me for sure ) Others remember this ? Malc have i set the cat amongst the pigeons with this ............ hehehehehe !

As I see it, ‘we’ want to save the planet, but we also want to buy the consumer goods to which we’ve become accustomed. The two are, in my opinion, incompatible. If we really want to save the planet, we need either a return to greater localism - which comes with sacrifice compared to the experience of the past century (or more) - or we find ways to decarbonise international trade, which will be difficult if not impossible. I find that too many people, especially youngsters, expect Governments to solve every problem. That’s not entirely unreasonable, but - and it’s a big but - each individual also needs to make choices that support their beliefs and aspirations. So called ‘fast fashion’ is a great example, as is the perceived need to be able to buy any foodstuff at any time of year. Both have massive impacts in terms of carbon emissions but, based on what I see and hear, aren’t targets for change. Instead protestors blame car drivers without looking at themselves and the impacts of their own choices. I can’t see a solution while nations and their peoples continue to chase economic growth and conspicuous consumption. Perhaps easy for somebody of my generation to say, as no doubt I’ve seen the benefits during my lifetime. Those who come next will have to accept that things need to be different and that isn’t palatable... Imagine if at COP27 the nations of the world agreed that new clothing would be rationed, that avocados and strawberries won’t be allowed to be shipped around the world and that manufacturing of plastics for consumer goods would also be rationed by nation. How about limiting the number of flights each person is allowed to take, or even the number of children people can bring into the world? I know there would be a huge economic impact, unemployment and hardship, but that isn’t my point here. Can you imagine the public outcry and protests if such agreements were made in order to ‘save the world’ for the future? I’d wager that many who would protest strongly also claim to want to save the world. Difficult choices. Difficult decisions. Unfortunately politicians want to be popular and people want easy answers that don’t impact on them.

You had two?! I loved mine and kept it for two years, a long time for me then. Slowed down a bit since I retired last year but still seem to be getting through a few.

After a slightly abortive attempt at procuring an LC500h, I finally have a date for collection of a fully loaded model (HUD, Mark Levinson, Sport Plus included), Friday week is collection day. Same colour and interior. Can't wait!!

I believe people have had some success here. I have never used them myself though. Bri https://www.tonybanks.co.uk/exhausts/

Worth a watch. The cost side of things isn’t a surprise. However, the RANGE side of things when on the motorway…well, let’s just say it confirms what I’ve been told by dealers and why I haven’t made the switch with a regular 200 mile motorway journey.

I think Bernard that hopefully people in the West are beginning to wake up and smell the chop-suey. Fascinating how devotion to the new religion of climate change is bankrupting the West with the consumption of "green energy" products made in China who are opening coal fired power stations daily. We need to redefine the definition of insanity.

Dealer agreed to MoT it and it passed with 0 advisories. Has offered to sort the rain gutters and have it serviced at Lexus on receipt of a deposit. I’m running out of reasons to not make an offer on it here !

Yes, that’s the one. I rarely use it as a rinseless wash, which is the purpose for which it’s marketed, but adding a small amount to the rinse water after normal shampooing makes water spots a thing of the past.

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