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Unless it's time for me to be put into a home, selecting "Odometer in miles" would suggest that the total distance covered would be shown in miles. I was on the verge of contacting Lexus Leicester to complain about being sold a clocked car when I realised that I was being shown distance in km, not miles when this option was selected. That saved some embarrassment, I can tell you!

Thats the oldest trick in the book. if its only 300 why doesnt he fix it Walk away mate

Just noticed the location a couple of miles away from me, think I may arrange a viewing 😀

Lexus Birmingham keep on telephoning, emailing and posting me various offers for trading in our CT. "Manager's special invite" etc etc. I keep telling them me and the missus plan to keep min 7-10years before changing. I like hatchbacks or small saloons. I don't want to join the SUV club! CT does everything well and decent. Comfortable and reliable that's the main thing for me. Did a trip to RAF Lakenheath in Suffolk and back to Birmingham recently. Perfect on the motorway! Two years into ownership. I'm glad to have left the VAG group and will stick to Lexus. Would be nice to have a newer vehicle but when I think of the costs it makes sense always to keep the car longer term.

Although the worry is, what else might he be hiding that he hasn't even mentioned. But, calling his bluff is the smart move and watch his facial expressions and body language, as well as his words. Unless it's a phone call 😉

Just to update this topic with what I've found after replacing my Anti-Roll Bars with F-Sport ones (and bushes) and installing aftermarket coilovers (Tein Flex Z). Different car! 🤗 The shocks and anti-roll bar bushes I removed were all very tired (which won't help handling), so I suspect refreshing those would have made a difference in themselves. However, I would strongly recommend upgrading too. Why? Because from the outset the GS Mk 3 has been noted for pronounced body roll and soft suspension. While suspension firmness is a personal thing, sometimes being too soft can actually adversely affect ride quality, in essence because the shocks and springs can't react quickly to the larger bumps and imperfections. Anything more than a little body roll, however, is never good; it alters the suspension geometry from the ideal, as the car's frame shifts, and generally results in an unsteady ride and poor handling. Therefore, upgrading Anti-Roll bars (in my case to F-Sport ones) has been the biggest (positive) change I've had in a car. When combined with adjustable coilovers that allowed me to dial them in to exactly where I was comfortable it's a wholly transformed car for the better. Plus the cost of the coilovers (around £800-900 IIRC) was under half the price of a set of new Lexus shocks, so it's cheaper overall too. The bars were around £400 delivered from the US (PTR02-30101 will fit the GS 430 and I'm pretty sure the GS300 too). So, for just over £1,200-£1,300 you can transform the handling of your car, or for a lot less you can replace the ARB bushes and/or the coilovers and still reap a benefit (you'll need to buy a rear bar though, as the bushes are bonded on...). Ultimately it's a personal decision as to whether that's VfM, but I only wish I'd been in a position to do it sooner! HTH! ☺️

Sorry guys I may have misled you with a £6K asking price. Even at £3.5K the chances are £300.00 will not cover the repairs required cost, an AC recharge pre test will no doubt reveal defective components and the VSC “loose wire I haven’t got time to find” suggests it’s a bit more than that. Play his bluff by telling him to fix all the faults for the full asking price and see what he says then.

I agree with this. 6 grand from a dealer everything should work as stated on an 06 Gs300. Yes, a few things could be a bit rough around the edges but you don't want to be budgeting (easily 1 grand) for possibly a new AC compressor, condenser and a re-gas. I once pulled a dealer up on the fact one of his cars was blowing out non cooled air. He stated that it probably just needed a re gas to which I replied with the obvious retort "well why hasn't it been done then?" Looked a little closer and the belt to the compressor had been removed. As for the VSC....might be £50....might be £500 to fix. Yes it sounds like overall the vehicle with a few hours of work could be okay....but I'd question why the dealer has presented it like he has.

I've just made a big step towards making the GS handle well - and it has made a massive difference!

Hi, and welcome to the story so far of my IS250. I figured since I have started to change a few things, and with some more mods & upgrades planned, I should probably keep tabs on my progress and try and document as much as possible. I enjoy reading this kind of thing about other people's cars, so hopefully you will too. If nothing else, it'll be something useful for the next owner to have a gander at when I eventually part company with it. So, the car then. It's an Argento Ice (1G1) 2011 F-Sport with optional Navigation unit, and it's an automatic of course. I traveled just under 200mls by train, to Darlington, to buy it from a thoroughly nice chap and fellow LOC member in late August 2016. This is my third Lexus IS and my second IS250 F-Sport in a relative short space of time. The previous one being a 2010 model in the rare Sable Metallic (4T5) but this was sadly written-off inside a year with only 27K on the clock. Finding another low-miles F-Sport to replace it proved to be quite difficult and after a couple of months of fruitless searching I was starting to give serious consideration to buying something else. Then one day, someone on the forum announced that they were selling-up... Being honest, silver was not my 1st-choice when looking for a replacement. In fact it was probably near the bottom of the pile in terms of desirability, but the price was just too good to ignore and it sounded like a great car - one owner (a LOC member, no less), 36K miles, FSH & it had been kept in a garage since new. At this point I was thoroughly fed-up of having to borrow other people's cars to get around so I was prepared to compromise and a deal was quickly struck. On the day I arrived to see the car in the flesh for the first time, any misgivings I had about the colour disappeared the minute I pulled-up to the seller's house in a taxi. It was a gloriously sunny day and the IS looked absolutely amazing, sitting there, spotlessly-clean on the driveway. I knew right then and there that I would be going home in it. I quickly told the driver to keep the change because I couldn't wait to exit the taxi and have a closer look. After chatting with the seller over a cuppa and pouring over the car's history and piles of receipts, it was evident that the car had been well looked-after since the day it was purchased from Lexus Nottingham in April 2011. The test drive was pretty short. Just a mere formality really as I was already very familiar with how an IS250 behaves on the road and there was nothing to be concerned about, so the deal was finalised over another cuppa and then the car was mine. There was a generous amount of fuel still left in the tank at the point of sale, but I brimmed the car at Scotch Corner services and planned the journey home on the sat-nav. The obvious choice would've been to head up the A1, but I wasn't in a hurry so instead I headed west on a relaxed cruise along the A66 towards Penrith where I would join the M6, and then subsequently the M74 as I crossed the border before eventually turning off at Abington services in the Clyde Valley to join one of my favourite driving roads, the A702. This is a road that I'm very familiar with and it has it all; great scenery, sweeping fast corners, dips, rises, a few sleepy towns & villages to cruise through, twisty technical sections and plenty of long straights and clear sightlines for overtaking opportunities. Best of all, there's no speed cameras so you can really explore the limits of whatever you're driving. Taking in this road whilst getting to know my new car truly was the icing on the cake. (forgive my lengthy into and waffling but I really did enjoy the whole buying experience of acquiring this car, so I thought I would share it...) Anyway, here's a couple of pics from the sales ad showing how the car looked before I bought it. My first six months or so with the car were fairly uneventful. It had just been serviced, MOT'd and kitted-out with a new set of tyres shortly before it went up for sale, so all I had to do was get it taxed and enjoy it. My first modification (if you can call it that), was in November when I prepped the car for the miserable Scottish winter weather - by swapping out the OEM floor mats for the set of genuine Lexus rubber mats that were included with the car, and by switching to winter tyres. The winter setup was a carry-over from my previous IS250 consisting of 18" 3rd-gen F-Sport wheels shod with 225/40F / 245/40R Pirelli Sottozero 3 tyres, so this was something that didn't cost anything, and arguably looked better than stock so I was happy for my car to wear these for the next 4 or 5 months. The 2016/17 winter weather was particularly awful. Not to the extent that winter tyres were required, but it just seemed to be constantly raining and/or very windy, especially on the occasions when I actually had some free time! So during the dark winter months I just planned what I was going to do next and armed myself with some knowledge, and also picked up a few parts. Fast-forward to the spring and it was time to switch back to summer tyres. A successful PPI claim had given me some funds to play with so I wanted to upgrade to a set of staggered 19" wheels. Sure, the stock 18's look good on a 2nd-gen IS, but 19's look even better!. My initial plan was to save up for a set of graphite OZ Superturismo LMs, but these are pretty expensive and rarely show up on the used market, so I mulled this over for a number of weeks before deciding on my alternative choice of wheel - the OEM "blade" wheels off an IS-F. Produced for Lexus by BBS Japan, these forged and relatively lightweight wheels were hardly a booby prize and were actually a good choice for what I want to achieve. My overall goal for the car could be described as "OEM Plus". To try and make some tasteful improvements to how it looks and performs without ruining it, and to add a bit more of a sporting flavour without it looking out of place. At the end of the day this is my daily driver and I still want it to feel like a Lexus so I'll be using high quality aftermarket or genuine parts from within the Lexus family where possible. In this regard the IS-F wheels are ideal, so when a newly-refurbished set showed up on eBay, I snapped them up. Once the wheels arrived (from Latvia!), my next point of deliberation was tyre choice. I had narrowed the short-list of candidates down to three - Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 3, Dunlop Sport Maxx RT2 or Michelin Pilot Super Sports. In the end I stumped-up for the more expensive Michelins as they've been proven quality for years and are still featuring as an OEM application on various performance cars. Whilst, on the other hand, the other two are quite new on the market with less known about them. Regarding sizes, I took the safe option and went with stock widths as I didn't want to run into problems when I lower the car a touch. I didn't weigh them but just by handling them during fitting and removal and moving the various wheels in and out of storage a few times, the new wheel & tyre combo certainly felt lighter than the OEM F-Sport alloys, despite them being larger. What isn't in question though, is just how much sharper and more precise the steering feels with them, plus grip is superb. Refinement suffered a little of course, but I would say only a little as the car still rides extremely well. On my initial impressions, I was more concerned about the increased road noise and thought I had made a huge mistake, because, boy were these things loud! Thankfully they got a lot quieter after putting a few miles on them but they're still probably louder than a lot of other tyres on the market. I would happily buy them again though. Around this time I also gave the car it's first proper detail during my ownership, and it was badly-needed. After months of being caked with dirt and rock salt, the sides of the car felt like sandpaper, There were literally hundreds of tar spots, so an extensive decontamination and clay bar session paved the way for a course of Super Resin Polish and a coat of Soft99 Fusso Coat. This restored some much-needed shine and lustre to the paintwork, and for the first time in ages, it was actually protected from the elements. (Obligatory snow foam pics) April saw the car pay a visit to Lexus Edinburgh to be serviced and MOT'd and it sailed through with no advisories. In fact, the service manager commented on how clean it was, and how he had to double-check whether they had washed it or not. Next up, was to install a dash-cam. In my previous car I had the relatively cheap, but excellent A118c. And I was in the market for a new one because I carelessly forgot to remove it from the wreck before it was taken away. Anyhow, suitably impressed with how it had performed, I was all set to buy another one when I noticed that there was now an A119 on the market. This promised to be even better and could be installed just as discreetly as the older camera, so I ponied-up an extra few quid to grab one, along with the optional GPS module and a CPL filter. This time, I wanted to make use of the parking mode so that meant hard-wiring it into an "always-on" circuit, so I tapped into the keyless entry system. I was a little worried that this would drain the battery and leave the car unable to start, but so far so good. I've left the car parked-up for 3 or 4 days at a time without any trouble. This is especially impressive, since, after reviewing some footage that was captured whilst parked, it would appear that the motion sensor is pretty sensitive and will trigger the camera into recording an "event" quite easily, So, at times (like when it's raining) the camera can effectively be recording 24/7, yet it doesn't seem to be too much of a burden on the battery. This is something I'm mindful of though, so I'm keeping an eye on it. For the past couple of months, I've just been concentrating on keeping the car clean, but a couple of days ago I done my first "performance" mod when I swapped-out the standard air intake for the official F-Sport one (PTR03-53100). I'd had one of these in my eBay watch list for about 2 years, just waiting for a deal nice enough for me to pull the trigger on. Well, such a deal showed up a couple of weeks ago so I jumped on it. Some pics I took during fitting. Installation was a breeze, very straightforward and quick. I took my time however and cleaned my MAF sensor at the same time, and also cleaned-up some parts of the engine bay that were dusty & dirty before putting everything back together. As for the intake, it's a nice piece of kit. Being an OEM upgrade, you would expect the quality to be very good and the fitment to be perfect, and it is. The general consensus seems to be that this will free up around 3-5 bhp, but that's not something that can be felt. What is noticeable though is the induction sound. There's very little difference, if any, during normal driving but when you push the revs above 3K you're greeted with a fantastic throaty roar. My next move will probably be to lower the car another 10mm or so via a set of H&R springs that I bought ages ago, but until then here's a few pics of how the car looked with the 19" IS-F wheels. Quick Links: F-Sport Gear knob Winter Wheels prep & installation Interior LED upgrade New & current wheel setup IS350 Brake upgrade

Hello everybody, new to the club, got a GS300 2003 model thanks for the welcome Steve.

The camera itself is overpriced, as is the Lexus fitting charge. I got this Viofo A129 Duo front/rear camera set from Amazon for £154.70 Just need to buy a hard-wire kit for an extra £10-£12 and it does everything the Lexus-supplied one does for half the price and equally good. It's a very easy DIY job for the front camera and a bit more involved for the rear one but still very DIY-able. If you don't want to DIY then a good auto-electrician will have both done in an hour, again for much less than Lexus would charge.

All I can say in response to my initial comment about faulty sensor issues, was that the service assistant on the desk was very matter of fact that it was a common problem..! Not my problem I thought, so being given so much negativity I contact Lexus UK customer relations, I then had a series of phone calls and my car ended up back in service and all the sensors and another software update.. fault never happened since..

11 out of 10 for common sense Malc

With respect Lee from what you have said I don't think this car can be called half decent. Might sound harsh but that's my personal take from what you have written. And from the sounds of it the less said about the dealer the better! There are better cars, and dealers, out there but the truth is you may have to travel to find the right one. Also, I don't know if you are aware, but GS 300's registered after 23/03/06 are nearly £600.00 per year VED.

I had a very similar experience in a Land Rover showroom a few years ago. Was genuinely interested in a Discovery Sport, sat in every model in the showroom but not one of the sales staff approached. Drove to the Lexus showroom and ordered the NX. Have never regretted that decision! 😊

It's a Loreal upgrade (worth it!) 😄

If you're hoping to get some sort of warranty from Lexus then you'll need to stick to the Lexus servicing schedule of 10k miles or 12 months, whichever comes sooner and you'll have to have done whatever it says you should have done.

Just watched this, looks like a worthy upgrade for my GS430 eventually. I've got a few other pressing things to sort out (discs and pads for a start) before I get onto more mods.

Rajinder, The headlight flickering is the bulb reaching the end of its life. The right will follow shortly. Both should be replaced but that will not be covered under warranty. I don't know for sure but I doubt tracking - if that is the problem causing pulling to left - will not be covered by warranty either. Fortunately tracking adjustment and bulb replacement are straightforward jobs and need not be expensive You don't need a Lexus dealer to do those jobs. John

I was aware that other plug-in hybrids have a degree of self-charging through regenerative braking etc. but I haven’t seen other manufacturers state this: “What happens when the battery runs out of charge? – In this case, the vehicle becomes an efficient self-charging hybrid with the petrol engine powering the car and recharging the battery. With the new Lexus NX an element of self-charging will also take place meaning the battery will slowly be refilled when the conventional engine is in use.” (from Lexus UK website) What I don’t know is whether the NX plug-in provides a greater level of self-charging than that resulting from regenerative braking and decelerating.

Knowing my luck Len, I would either swallow most of it or set myself ablaze!

During shipping up to PDS the main fuse is removed so there will be no drain whatsoever on the 12 volt battery from the PDS documentation. "The D/C CUT FUSE has been removed at the assembly plant to reduce parasitic current draw in transit and storage"

I have always had a leaning towards inspirational/motivational quotes from much sharper observers on life than myself. Amongst my favourite ones is "happiness doesn't come from getting what you don't have but from wanting what you have and remembering why you wanted it in the first place" (I added the last bit 😊). To these favourites John I shall add your vignette of defining an idyllic almost semi-nomadic lifestyle where you ask very little from life but receive boundless gifts from it's generosity if you have the right attitude. And with apologies to your namesake, John Augustus Shedd, " A car in a garage is in a safe place, but that's not what cars were made for" Sante 😎

That is well overpriced for a car with issues. The error could be anything, I'd not even consider it without ALL the above issues been fixed including the VSC light. More than a few GS available without these faults for cheaper: https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202109067068548 https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202107155077247?price-from=500&radius=1500&onesearchad=New&onesearchad=Nearly New&onesearchad=Used&postcode=ng15ga&model=GS 450H&advertising-location=at_cars&make=LEXUS&year-to=2021&sort=price-asc&include-delivery-option=on&page=1 for example. However do remember on the older GSes, check to see if these parts have been replaced: Exhaust Shocks Traction Battery (for H models) as at some point they are very likely to go on older GSes. The exhaust is about £800 to replace when it goes (or 2.2k from lexus) and the shocks are about £800 EACH from lexus or about £400 each for a non-standard non-adjustable version. The 300 uses the cheaper shocks anyway and I think the 300's shocks less likely to go as soon as its a bit lighter car. You can get a non-standard replacement hybrid battery from Hybrid battery solutions for about £2k. So if you do get an older GS, make sure you have the spare change to address these issues as they arise.

As Habu has already said Lexus are in a different league in terms of quality, reliability and customer service compared to the other so called prestige marques. Driver Power surveys usually place them 1st or at worst 2nd to Porsche. I have experienced nothing but exemplary service from Lexus Edinburgh since purchasing my NX in 2018. The new 450h+ is very tempting as a good transition to an EV - my only disappointment is that the Pano roof cannot be specified with the Premium Plus pack and the standard 20" wheels with run flat tyres. I am sure you will be delighted with a Lexus should you proceed to purchase. As the adverts say-drive a Lexus and you will experience amazing!

To the best of my recollection additives (not including those in petrol already) were added by individuals when petrol became lead free. The formulation with lead helped cushion valves/seats. Some owners had affected cars modified using harder seats whilst others helped alleviate the loss of lead by adding additives. The present situation has been brought about by the introduction of ethanol, firstly as a 5% ratio but more recently as 10%. The ethanol tends to cause premature degrading of rubber hoses and gaskets etc. (Some cars are affected more than others). I am not convinced that by adding an additive to E10 fuel you are going to stop potential damage to these vehicles. By opting for the high octane fuel ethanol is either not included or remains at the 5% ratio. Furthermore, the E10 petrol gives fewer MPG than for the same grade previously with 5% ethanol. The higher Octane does include better additives but what is important is that is has no ethanol or only 5%. Changing up to the high octane also provides slightly more power and more MPG whereas with standard lower octane fuel the increased amount of ethanol will result in slightly lower MPG.

I'm glad you're enjoying it Gavin and hope it gives you many years of enjoyment as it's a great car. 35 mpg is good too, but it won't be used to cruising so slowly. Brakes should be bedded in by now too. Corvette arrives around 7 pm tonight. Pete

Just put you in my Team to play Mars, Norman. So pleased to read three lines of common sense.

Thank you very much kijan and Lwerewolf for your time and kindness to offer your advice and knowledge on the subject. I managed to find out only yesterday that the dimensions of their modules differ, rendering them non interchangeable, despite they have identical electrical and chemical characteristics. Module dimensions are as follows: Lexus GS 450h and Prius: 19.6(w), 106(H), (285)L. Toyota Rav4: 12.2(W), 122(H), 370(L). Chris.

We have a 2014 with 42000mls 18mth warranty and full Lexus service history, Catloc Had it 3,1/2yrs and 8,000mls. Keep thinking I should upgrade but the car is so good and reliable and with a WBAC estimate of £10,420, I just cannot bring myself to throw the kind of money needed at something that will be a decent step up. Thought about a UX but close to another £20k needed for a 20/21 model. Just cannot see the added value for money present.

I very much doubt the subject is ever raised by any prospective buyer, so the saleperson will be completely ignorant on the subject. Now what really worried me this afternoon, as I collected my car from the dealership after being serviced and I returned the UX300e courtesy car, commenting If that was AWD I'd be very interested. The service manager said but it is AWD! Really I said are you sure? Erm.... let me check. He asked a passing salesman, yes, I think it is...but... He reaches for the sales brochure and furiously searched through it... The service manager disappears into the sales principles office and I hear .. " The UX300e is AWD isn't it?" The answer was quite brusque and clearly shocking "NO! FWD only!!" Now I don't expect a service manager to know every in and out of every model but, seriously, something that fundamental???

Here too, the original MK2 IS is in my opinion the best looking Lexus ever. Something about the shape composition and the thought that wen into the exterior design, it's just right. Modern Lexus models imho have way too many creases and are getting close to distaste I feel when I look at a current shape Honda civic.

I find it dead easy to keep my foot off the loud pedal. I'm a professional driver by trade and let off the gas when approaching lights and slower traffic and in plenty of time. I suppose I drive it like I drove my hybrid cars.

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Hi Ross. I see you've finally got a photo posted. 👍 What you've said about the UX is bang on. I still remember the one I had for a day last year and was so impressed by it.

Next up I think I might get GS350 Calipers Advics ones and LS460H rear or I will try to safe up for ISF calipers But I don't see the point in Brembos on the 300h as it's not really performance tunable 😄 So probably going to get Advics 4 piston ones. As Advics Directly bolts on the IS brake mount just need bigger rottors + Mike V8 had a realy nice video how to restore them 😄 and they don't cost a arm and a leg.

Installed the rear spats NIA style I think? They called universal looks nice and also did my buddies car with the 200t spats from Maxton.

Got the wheels fitted today really excited! They look awesome the Toyo Tires Proxes Sports feel way more stable and smooth to drive then the Goodyears Asymetrics. And yes I know the wheel gap is masive i'm working on it haha Thinking of getting Coils or springs what you guys run?

Tires and front wheels came today! Waiting for back ones now, to mount them up and post pictures!

So it's done boys I've ordered a Set of JR28's in Hyper black 18' 8.5J fronts and 9.5J backs ET40 and got the tires today with wheel nuts. Waiting for the wheels so I can post pictures 😄 I did contact the Japan Racing Wheels asked them what's the best offset they recommend for the IS300h they told me 35 would not fit 9.5J in the back they suggested to get ET40 all around which I did I was considering ET35 but since I'm making them custom PCD and Custom offset cause they don't have 5X114.3 in ET40 9.5 I had to go with what JR's suggested just to be safe ordered them from JDMdistro.

So threw on the JR28's in Hyper black on my car and honestly I think they look fire. Now I'm thinking to get 5x114.3PCD 8.5J 18's ET40 front and 9.5J 18's ET35 back you guys think they would fit? Anyone runs similar offset?

If the rest of the car had chrome details then the chrome wheels would look ok but as it is I prefer black.

So recently I got a good deal but I'm not sure guy is selling Works LS406 Mono's with brand new Nankang tires they are square 8.5J ET38 or something like that 225 45R I used photoshop to put them on my car and honestly for the price he offering they don't look that bad. Just not sure should I leave them chrome or make them black 😄 or just keep Stockies and refurbish them instead? Here's a picture of the Works They are chrome 18' And this is how I wanted to make my stockies.

It should be in three locations: It's also possibly under a cover under the drivers seat (extend it all the way back to see it) but not sure if its there on the IS. It should also be written in your service history book. It will start with the letters JT due to it being manufactured in Japan by Toyota.

I got the mest grille emblem from the Ebay and it should fit the IS I will find you the part number and a picture. So this is the emblem it consists of two parts the mesh grille and the Chrome L which are sold separately. Here are the PN: Garnish, Radiator GR: 53142-60011 Emblem, Symbol: 90975-02083 Nut, Spring: 90183-06044

The M5 is a good tram-lining tester route, isn't it!! 😄

Certainly get the ARB bushes looked at, my LS at about 170K was making the missus sick (I noticed nothing much), but got the front bushes down a year ago (as garage said although okay!!, would tighten up the car. The result a happier missus, and I also noticed any tram-lining gone. It did not have huge tram-lining problem before, but my previous LS (with less miles on) I found tram-lining could be really horrible on certain parts of M5, wind or no wind and felt like car was going to lane-hop. That LS had most of the front suspension well past its use by date. Just looking at the ARB bushes is not enough, you need to wedge a bar in there and give them a good wiggle.

Michael I 100% agree with you, it must be a suspension if everything else is checked and adjusted correctly. I am just a little bit surprised that the Lexus that covered only 40k miles would have an issue with suspension, well, my wifes Citroen needed new anti-roll bars at 30k miles and my friends Superb needed something done in it's front suspension as there was knocking sound @20k miles, but this is Lexus we are talking about so I would never expect that but probably could easily happen so needs another proper checking. At the moment I do not travel far or often so it doesn't bother me much but if we go back to "normal" it will. I kind of trying to reprogram my brains for a fully electrical vehicle but time will tell if this will happen.

Twas just a thought I had over breakfast matey.