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Finally got around to giving her a good wash today after picking her up on Saturday. A good hand polish, and the paint has come up better than expected.

Hi all Well i have had the Mk 4 450h for four months now and it is growing on me every day when i first got it i was dissapointed with the headrest position but found out that the headrest adjusts with the top part of the seat so that was soon resolved. The car runs superb i dont think its got quite the poke that my ex 450 SE L had but it is more than adequate it will soon whisk you to 100 in no time. I like the way you can go to sport mode and changes the battery monitor to a rev counter and in sport mode simulates actual gear changes but i mostly keep it in the normal mode anyway. The fuel consumption is ok as well mind anyone who buys a 3.5 must know its going to use fuel i dont usually bother with the figures but my last 450 averaged about 35 ish but this one is returning 43 on a regular basis but i dont boot it ( well not often ). One thing that did disapoint initially was the cd player its only one slot it as USB and bluetooth and i have managed to put my libary on 2 USB sticks so that is now resolved it shows all files and folders as the old 450 had HDD 6 CD USB Bluetooth and when i think about it it was overkill really as if you put in a new CD it asked if you wanted to transfer to HDD. The initial startup of the display is a little slow but acceptable ( I bet the facelift addressed that) the sat nav seems slightly better but contary to others found it quite acceptable but dildnt get the Connect system to work through the internet but not bothered about that. I also found that the handling is slightly better i went round a bend few weeks ago (didnt know the road) was a little too fast but went round like it was on rails was pleased at that it as Dunlop sports on. The mouse thingy was a little fiddly first of but i am completetly used to it now but music options can be used with steering wheel any way. I found that the Heater Controls and lights are a bit small could have done with that panel being angled up a bit but not too much of a problem. The HDU is a nice touch and the Blind spot monitering and Cross traffic alert is brilliant So in conclusion anyone changing up from a Mk3 will not be disappointed Robert

'Names Rob. Longtime Lexus driver, owner, and enthusiast. i live and breathe these cars. hell i even made a career out of it working as a technology specialist at my local dealership. love em all but extremely partial to the LS400. got my first one at 17, a early build 90 and have had 20 others since then. im almost 35 and im still driving LS400s now and own 3 of them. a diamond pearl/cashmere '95 and '99, and a Imperial Jade/cashmere '00. ive had many other cars and several other Lexus, but i will always have an LS400 in my driveway no matter how old they get. the euro/uk spec versions have always interested me as you guys got some stuff over there we never got in our cars. looking forward to reading as well as contributing. i live in Orlando, FL and even here in heavens waiting room, LS400s are dwindling from the roads and its a rarity that i pass one in traffic. its cool that you guys actually have a way to track how many are still on the roads there. its a question i always wonder myself but theres no system in place like that here in the states. anyways here is my small but ever growing fleet..

I have just checked the system with Techstream, and there is no facility for increasing the flasher warning volume. It would not be to difficult to fit a warning buzzer of some description to enhance the noise level if required. I will look into the possibility of modifying the flasher system to give a fixed number of flashes. John.

I got my car back last night from paint shop! I could not spot any issues with it, looks like they did a really good job! I am so happy to have it back! I missed her a lot! :) Qashqai was not a bad car but I love my GS, it's quieter, comfier and much (much) quicker and much more relaxed to drive be it town or motorway!

Well, I am very pleased to report another clean MOT pass for my 2002 LS430, all good, no advisories. This is the 5th clear mot and I have had very little spend, other than religious servicing and preventative items, I.e. new radiator. In that time I have driven 40000 trouble free miles and plan to continue doing the same, I must confess encouraged by Malc and The-Acre who demonstrate total confidence in their LS Lexi. Each time I consider that I should buy something newer, hopefully more reliable, I consider just how brilliant and reliable my current car is, and basically can’t bear to part, even with now, a lowly 100,000 miles. The ride , comfort and performance, I know could not be bettered, even by spending a lot of money, on another Lexus, so why do it ? I have my LS serviced by Paul Frost and mot’d next door at a very thorough garage, who casually tell me ‘yeh we see very few problems with these LS’s’ . In conclusion, don’t believe the hype about problems with LS 430’s ....but ....... do check the service history and ownership, mot history is I think a very good guide, particularly, advisories. Cheers, Roger

Yep 255/40 Black circles have them for £151 Inc fitting. There is also a further discount of £10 if buying 2 so they'd be £146 each fitted

I suppose it depends on if it puts a "money light" up on the dashboard? Engine Management Light is now a major fail. It must come on with the ignition and then turn off when the engine is started. I know that this is a tricky one again, and I apologise for my lack of knowledge of the Hybrid ones, but the "Money light" would normally go off after a set period of time? I dunno if I'm honest. I know that during the last tranche of MOT updates there was talk of vehicles being plugged into the OBD2 port. And if there's a fault on the emissions system that would show whether the engine can be run or not as it would be a stored code. However it didn't get through this time, doesn't mean they can't add it at any time, I think it was held off because of the cost of getting the equipment retro fitted at MOT stations in time for the new requirements.

Much better since I put some decent tyres on it, the garage had put 4 cheap Chinese things on, what a difference decent rubber makes, super quiet and planted to the road now

Looks a bit like a video game here but it is real 🙂

Indeed it was @Flytvr chariot. Surprisingly good deal from Sytner in the end..

Yes I'd seen that myself kellogsj. My concern with the 245 is actually insurance. It's not the correct size for the car and I'd sooner not run that risk. I have had enough fights with insurance over fitting the official VW winter tire/alloy package to my Passat alltrack 4wd. Insurance tries to claim it's a modification. But it's the official product from the manufacturer for winter use.. It gets even more interesting when you ask for a discount [emoji38] as you've made the car safer by not driving on summer tires in winter lol.... What prices have you found the 255x40x18 for ? Is that a normal tire or run flat ? Cheers Paul Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk

The later set number of flashes operation would be good if possible. I think that is what the Mk2 had but the Mk3 didn't by default. The occasions when the several flashes would be used e.g. changing lanes on motorway, are exactly those where the wheel does not turn enough to cancel and so those who can't hear the ticks leave them indicating. My assistant can them flick them off😊 John

Certainly very similar to how we feel about our 15 plate 450h Premier. Handling is superb compared to our previous Volvo V70 - the GS has much better weight distribution, much less roll, grips WAY harder. The drivetrain is much more securely mounted in the car (in the volvo you could feel the engine flop about on its mounts) which gives a much more predictable feel, and when you really pitch it into a corner and the adaptive dampers do their thing... well, it's the most capable roadholding car that I've ever had (or driven, come to that). Drivetrain is superbly refined, able to cruise @ 1500rpm at any speed. Acceleration doesn't FEEL super fast, and doesn't have the peak punch that our V70 did (twin-turbo 5-cylinder diesel, 470Nm torque), but the EV-like linearity of the acceleration means that it actually gathers speed with so little fuss and effort by comparison, and in a much smoother manner. This fools you into believing it's slower than it actually is. Fuel consumption is as per my fuelly sig at the bottom of this post. I'm very pleased with that, as our V70 only returned 38mpg (225bhp, diesel). The 450h is 50% more powerful and petrol so to get basically the same economy is remarkable and welcome. The CD thing doesn't bother me - our V70 was the same, and we never once used it. Our honda had a 6-disc changer which we did use, but in a world of USB I don't miss that faff at all! The infotainment UI isn't very good. I'm not complaining about the mouse-thing - I actually think that works very well. It provides useful haptic feedback (we have it set to max strength) and once you understand that it has an absolute relationship to the position on the screen (rather than a relative relationship like an actual computer mouse) then it's a very good bridge between hand and screen. The problem is that the actual UI of how things are accessed is really awkward, taking many more presses and actions than it should. For example, when playing some music off the USB stick and deciding that I want to listen to a different artist I must take the following steps: Select right-hand screen, select music panel, send music panel to left-hand screen, select browse, select artist, select letter group (or scroll list), select artist, select album. If partway through that process I come to a road junction or whatever that requires my full attention then if I do not return to it quickly enough it will time out and I must start again. Another example is that it is not possible to cancel the navigation when it is giving you instructions - we have been a couple of times to a shop where the postcode doesn't quite align, so pulling into the car park the sat nav is constantly re-routing and trying to direct. Every time it does this it blocks you out of the menu to cancel the route navigation. And why are postcodes (the PRIMARY method of destination entry in the UK) on the second page of the nav screen? We once tried voice commands to cancel navigation with totally hilarious (and depressing) results - completely useless. Now, in fairness most car infotainment UIs are awful - our volvo was limited and tedious (for example, choosing an artist from USB required scrolling through a list - could not jump the list using the physical number/letter group keys, and every time you went to the list it started from A). My Leaf is extraordinarily annoying (Doesn't give a list of Artists, but instead the complete list of Albums, sorted in Artist order.... Then don't get me started on its interpretation of finding charging points (Start a journey with a full charge, ~90 miles range. Put in destination 150 miles away. Warns you that you won't make it on your current charge, and offers to find a charge point for you - guides you to nearest charge point which you will arrive at with 95% battery remaining and still won't make your destination)). In other words.... the Lexus system has its annoyances and idiosyncrasies (and idiocies), but so do most others. Another issue is the spray of buttons and some settings buried in menus. I spent 10 minutes looking through the menus one time because the mirrors weren't folding in when locked. Gave up, and 5 minutes later noticed that the "auto" button on the door mirror control panel did not have the little green tell-tale LED lit. Similarly the auto-wipers are only indicated by a little green tell-tale on the wiper stalk, that is obscured behind the steering wheel (our volvo had a similar tell-tale, but it also put an icon up in the instrument panel - and the wipers defaulted to off every time you started the car (sensible because it meant it wouldn't try wiping while you were deicing the car, clearly an important consideration for volvo)). How many buttons and telltales are there in the car marked "auto" (one on the mirror panel on the door, one on the wiper stalk, one on the headlamp stalk, two in the HVAC controls, one on each seat heater control, one on the rear climate panel, one on the rear view mirror....) The build quality is excellent, although the paint isn't particularly good (we have a couple of patches of crazing, and it's soft, picking up scratches easily). The most remarkable aspect of build quality to me is the way that when you shut the doors the noise of the outside world is so comprehensively drowned out - my Leaf has very thin glass and lets a lot of noise in, whereas the GS does not. Noticeably quieter than our V70. Seats are generally very good.... but I have a funny shaped back and I just can't quite get the lumbar to work for me, even the 2-step lumbar in the Premier. The problem that I have is that even the higher lumbar control isn't quite high enough up the seat for me (and I'm only 5'7). It's a shame that despite super-many-way-adjustable seats, the Premier does not have a proper 2d lumbar (ie in/out, up/down) but rather 2 separate 1d controls (lower in/out, upper in/out) - the lower is so low as to be useless for anyone, and the upper one is not high enough for me but may suit others. I love the adjustable bolsters and thigh support, but the memory functions are weird. It's extremely annoying not being able to recall the memory position whilst the car is moving or even stationary but in gear, and the passenger memory does not recall the thigh support position. On the plus side, the ventilation and heating are great, and I love being in the front passenger seat, set the thigh support out, recline a bit.... way too comfortable. Visibility is excellent! The A-pillars are designed exactly right in terms of size and angle. The V70 wasn't great in this regard, but the Leaf is truly appalling (you can literally lose a van in the A-pillar blind spot). There's a few little things you don't notice at first about how lexus designed the vehicle to improve this - the windscreen bonding overlap is moved as far outboard as possible, so the windscreen covers the front of the A-pillar, and with minimal masking applied on the screen, so there's not 1/2 inch of visible (from the inside) black masking at the edge like other cars. Then the A-pillar trim is angled to not project into that space, and the door overlap is also slightly carefully designed. You can see a similar overlap on the rear screen on the C-pillar, that the rear screen is wider and overlaps further onto the C pillar than other cars, making the view from inside wider. Really lovely piece of design work. BSM is good, ACC is ok - not as good as a VW hire car I had recently though (66 plate touran. It was the only good thing about that car). The ACC tends to pick up vehicles in adjacent lanes on curves as obstacles (which the VW was much better at), and the ACC is only a guide (the VW, I quickly discovered, allowed you to use it as a virtual bumper - once it was locked onto the car in front you could floor the throttle and it wouldn't move, which was a nice way of driving - felt like there was something the car was pushing against). AHB is totally useless - it works for a minute or two, then gets confused, doesn't dip for oncoming cars and then goes into a sulk and never turns high beam on ever again. I've not really played with LKA. LED headlamps (I know, a VERY rare option in the UK) are excellent, but confusing. Excellent in that they provide extremely wide, bright coverage, although in common with many high-power flat-beam systems they don't project as far down the road (in order to avoid dazzle) as a good halogen dip-beam setup (but that is very dim by comparison). The optic design isn't great, with extremely strong chromatic aberration at the cut-off (blue-red-yellow). The confusing element comes from them turning with the steering (which the xenons on our V70 did also). They turn much faster than the volvo and that works fine - I just don't understand why bother? The LED lights project light SO widely (pavements on both sides of the road well illuminated, pool of light extends out almost perpendicular to the motion of the car) that what's the point of turning them? You don't see any better over that way because it was already lit over that way. I understood the purpose with much narrower projected Xenon and Halogen lights, but it's just a totally unnecessary complication on the LED lights. So, I know it sounds like I'm focused on the negatives... I'm not - I just don't indulge in blind fanboyism with any car. I love the car and it's easily the best car we've ever owned (but I might not be saying that anymore once my Leaf is replaced with the Tesla). It's brilliant for what we do with it, and if you live your life on the motorway I can't think of a car I'd rather have. It feels special to be in and to drive.

Captured this morning https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/photos/picture/ships/3529798/shipid:183906 Yes, sad I know ...

Hi @B1 RMA in terms of the arch extensions, Artisan Spirits only offer the rear arch extensions. I am quite sure that these would not fit on the front arches. You have two options with the arches, Fiberglass reinforced plastic ready to paint (ARTSPI-RCF-013) or the Carbon Fibre Reinforced Plastic ARTSPI-RCF-014. Delivery for these parts would be 4-8 weeks and postage within the UK is £39.95. We are hoping to have everything listed on the website by the end of next week. Please do let us know if you need any more information. Artisan Spirits Lexus RC F (2014+) Rear Arch Trim Set ARTSPI-RCF-013 £409.70 Artisan Spirits Lexus RC F (2014+) Rear Arch Trim Set (Carbon) ARTSPI-RCF-014 £674.90

Not in the Lucy Tower Street multi story in Lincoln it wouldn’t - the 400 will not really fit so a 600 definitely would not.

Thanks for your review, I will be looking to go from en 3 to Gen 4 in the next year and I can now do it without any worries.

Thanks for the update @V8ORBUST. These last two posts have just upped my excitement level - I've ordered the Quicksilver, but they didn't have any on the shelf so it'll be a couple of weeks before it is manufactured. Can't wait!

In Huyton mate, haven’t got a purple wheelie bin anymore though sob sob

I drove the car about 30 miles, nothing happens, code is still there and techstream can t delete it. I will buy a new bcps and see what is what. The 12v battery, before, when the brake pedal was pressed with the engine off the dome lights where loosing intensity, now with the new battery they stay constant so it is good that i changed the battery. I am sure all this mess started from that weak battery. I will keep you up to date how will i solve this problem, hopefully very soon and not something big of a deal 🙂

@LexusPartsDirect Thanks but I was there last weekend. Hence the pics 😉

Well today didn't go quite as well as I'd hoped. Got the car into Bristol by 10.00 am but was given a courtesy car as it would take so long to do the work! I had hoped to be there and actually watch the work being done. There were no unusual or suspicious forms to sign which was a relief and they were very kind and pleasant to me. Around 4.00 pm I got a call saying they'd got the wrong exhaust parts and so couldn't complete the job. I've been back in and collected her do we can go to Leatherhead in our own car. Bit of a waste of our day but at least going in the right direction. The only good thing to have come out of all this is that I've now driven yet another Lexus that pulled away smoothly and sweetly and there were no exhaust noises to be concerned about. This was the NX300 and whoever buys that one will be getting a good car. Alan

HelloSmuk and welcome. Have no doubt that you will enjoy the car.Very few,if any, marques can equal Lexus.You have made an excellent decision. My view is that none of the extras being pushed by the Salesman can be considered to be worthwhile investments, but I would recommend that you purchase and have Lexus install the dashcam for you.A dashcam is increasingly important given the poor behaviour displayed on the roads today. Let`s have some piccies and a review when you are ready.

Thanks, I adjusted the contrast on the photo to show the wheels a little better. here are a couple of close ups.

Need to mind the caravan going under low bridges though 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

I don’t understand where you find evidence of that , quite the opposite I bought my LS 430 and it has been remarkably reliable , with little expenditure. However like all vehicles , including the LS 460 and LS 600 it very much depends on its servicing history and how it has been looked after. The seller of my LS430 bought a Chauffeur Driven LS 460 with 100,000 miles so you would have thought well maintained.... needed £6000’s worth of front suspension repairs. You could make the same argument for both 460 and 600 vehicles , but there are so many variables that they “could “ become money pits but equally “not”

If you drove quickly through large puddles, it can create enough water pressure to force water into all sorts of places it shouldn't be, like inside sensors. It can even strip wires from sensors. ABS sensors are the most vulnerable to water damage, but it's not uncommon for other sensors to be affected. It's worth getting under the car and doing a physical check of the wiring to the sensor to eliminate obvious repairable issues like a broken wire. Many years ago I had a Ford Sierra 4x4 and drove through a large puddle. Water got into the intake and killed the MAF sensors. It affected the fuelling so badly you could see the fuel gauge dropping.....

You see you are now being insulting by refuting my abilities and personality. I do care about and enjoy driving but it's not about speed or getting there quickly but rather a comfortable ride with easy driving experience. Perhaps we should agree that we all have different interpretations of what is enjoyable. Yours works for you then fine, mine works for me. When you pay for my car I will subscribe to your criteria. It's not a matter of being bothered but I again refer you to the relaxing and comfortable drive, un-stressed. If you're idea of enjoying a drive is to be constantly on edge and scanning for speed cameras then that's your call. It is perfectly possible to drive at licence losing speeds in the ES300h. I am perfectly confident of my driving skill and always make a point of getting to know my car. I would pit my capabilities against yours any day (if I could be bothered of course) as many years as a motorway police driver and also as a younger biker and fast car enthusiast have equipped me well. I just grew up, I recommend it heartily. You also want your loved ones and passengers to live....just not as much as behaving like an immature idiot fantasising about being a racing driver....your call. Do you not want to arrive home safe for them? Are you so arrogant to think, like all the idiots driving like maniacs that your driving skills are advanced enough to cope with anything? There is such a thing as a MB C300h or should I say there was as it was fairly recently discontinued. It was a 201hp 2.1 turbo diesel hybrid (Approx. 230 BHP total) I drove one for 3 years from May 2013-16. Check your facts. An enthusiast would be ashamed. No probs with the nick name, a bit of banter is fine. You have however made derogatory comments about my driving ability and personality. Don't make this personal my friend, you don't know me well enough to judge me nor i you so let's just agree to disagree. It all boils down to the reason/s you buy a car. Speed/excitement or comfort/reliability? My reasons are not yours and visa/versa.

There you see? The 'Sloth' is just a made up identity for forum purposes. Its not real... Just like Top Gear... or the made up achievements of people who watch it and then flock like sheep to the Turdburg ring or whatever it's called? Ive owned and driven some very fast cars and bikes. Police cars...and... I've done 155mph two up on an 1100cc super bike... I was young and stupid and definatly not clever. No, Sloth by name but not by nature, not really...just grown up 😉

@Linas.P However hard I try, I can't find the "disgusting, under-powered... hybrid" in my GS300h that you talked about. Instead I find a car that's more than capable of keeping up with the traffic in the fast lane of the motorway, and pulls hard when you floor it until you're well over the national speed limit before you know it. If anything I'd call it deceptive, it doesn't pull you back in your seat like some cars do, it just accelerates smoothly until you ease off. The fact that it doesn't drive the way you want it to doesn't make it a bad car, it just makes it not the right car for you. Feel free to insult me, my car or my choices like you have others, you don't know me and probably never will so I don't really care. Just know that here is someone who has loved cars and driving all my life, driven many different makes and models (including a couple of Lexus V8s) and is extremely happy with his Lexus hybrid.