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Hi all, My car recently ticked over 91k miles and needed a full service, last service was August last year at 83k. As it was at 91k I booked the car in for a 100k Major service with Lexus Plymouth. I understand a large service like this is only done at 60k miles and 100k miles, please correct me if im wrong, Just thought I'd add a post on costs and what was carried out if anyone is getting near that service point in their cars life. I purchased 2 new Pirelli P Zeros for the front wheels a couple of months ago as the inner wall had the dreaded tyre wear, middle and outside were like new 😞 I got a great deal from Oponeo.co.uk I saved them for the service so Lexus could fit them (which they kindly did free of charge). Lexus did all the usual full service items, changed the Oil, brake fluid, engine coolant, screen wash, all filters screen wash, checked for recalls, plugged the engine in the computer etc etc, Also a full visual inspection, they took off, checked and re-tourqed all 4 wheels, tyre pressures, checked control arms brakes, suspension, literally every nut and bolt of the car was looked over and tightened. There was nothing wrong with the feel of the car before the service but it honestly felt like new when I picked it up, felt solid. I had a rubbing noise from the passenger wheel in the week building up to the service, they checked it out and found the heat shield had slightly bent and was rubbing, all fixed for free and no more noise. It was a bit of a relief as I've only owned the car since April so this was it first proper full inspection by Lexus under my ownership, they confirmed the car is in great condition and had been well looked after. There were only 3 things to sort at a later date, air conditioning needs regassing which I'm not fussed about, with the Hayward and Scott exhaust burbling im more of a window down kinda guy. Heat sheild above the exhaust was ripping a bit and may need replacing, and lastly 3 clamps on the exhaust were leaking slightly so will need replacing, as it was a Hayward and Scott exhaust they didn't have the correct clamps so wouldn't touch it. All in it cost £595, Money well spent IMO, I am curious as to what a simular service would be for a M3 or C63, RS4 etc. The customer service and work carried out at Lexus Plymouth was first class, added benefit of it being a 5 mintue walk from my house it's a relief to have a garage like that so close. Another stamp in the service book and a warm fuzzy feeling the car is in great condition. Apologies for the long read Cheers Ian

Put some RR Racing USRS lower control arm bushes on to fix the inner front tyre wear. Will save you the money spent on new tyres pretty quickly, and make the car handle better!

Just purchased one of these for €6.95 from the Spanish equivalent of B&Q. Contructed from aluminium and water resistant, amazingly bright with two settings and a red flashing mode. I knew it was quality when the first 3 letters were LEX.

Well it is pampered with no expensive spared but yes, 10,000 miles a year of commuting, family duties and, um, recreational driving would break most old performance cars. Not an F car though... Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk

I'm thinking about getting the gearbox oil done at the next service. Talked to the service manager at Guildford who reckons it's not necessary unless the car has been tracked, which it hasn't. However next service it will have done 100k which I reckon means the oil has done enough work... Do you know if there are any filters in the IS-F gearbox which should also be changed? Take your point about calling hoses etc as well. Mine look OK, no cracks or any signs of damage and I'm tempted to leave the water pump until the extended warranty runs out. I don't think I'll be able to renew that again as the car will probably have hit 100k by that time.

I'm north of 115k miles and counting! Last service included gearbox oil change, new radiator hoses, sparkplugs and water pump so it was over £1000 at an independent garage. I'm not sure all isf's need all of these things doing at this age but my car has a hard life and I don't know the service history in detail so played it safe! My car just seems to get better with age, unlike me [emoji16] Got the next service in October so fingers crossed it is cheaper this time! Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk

Have one of these (Takeda) on mine at the minute, 2nd stage intake sound is very much still there and that’s with the vacuum hose unplugged and closed off at both ends so the secondary intake flap is fully open all the time. The second stage intake sound is far more cam related than flap related in all my experimentation. Given that the flap on mine is fully open all the time and I still get the two stage induction noise that would suggest the noise is not purely down to the flap at all. As for the Takeda being a “sealed” unit I’m afraid they are definitely not. There is a pretty large cut-out in the metal heat shield at the front that allows the cone filter to fit inside the housing. Due to this you are definitely heat syncing straight away as soon as you fit the Takeda versus the standard intake. The Takeda gives a much better sound but as FIGS has proven on the stateside forum, they do lose power. Not that noticeable in my opinion but if you are chasing numbers, don’t get one. The Takeda units look and sound the part though and that’s most of what I’m after. I’ve had a HPS elbow plus the K&N drop in with the standard box on mine, followed by the full Takeda set up. Smoother, more linear power on the HPS + K&N set up but more noise, more top end ooomph and a spanglier look with the Takeda. Both setups will be up for sale soon.... almost finished my own custom fully sealed unit!!

On the other thread, Zubair reckons the water was almost 2ft (600mm) deep. I'd say with even a small bow wave, that's perilously close to the engine intake. Plus the exhaust and a lot of electrics underwater as well, not looking good...

Zubair i am still trying to get my head around this. You said you drove through a puddle resulting in a write off engine and hybrid system. If this puddle is 1 mtr deep i can understand can you please give some more update on that? how deep was the water was it flowing over the hood when driving?

just to keep it current👍🏻

I think the LC500 is definitely a grand tourer, rather than an outright sports car, whilst I think the RCF has pretensions in that direction, I think it's more of a tourer than an outright sports car.

Those Wolf Race wheels looked good on any car they went on. I used to have a Reliant Scimitar that had those on. I loved that car but old age and disability in me put paid to one of the greatest looking sports cars this country produced and from a company that thought cars only had 3 wheels. Great looking TVR what a shame they were allowed to die.

6 wheels of American muscle.

I had the message "System fault" with flashing tyre, and red exclamation mark appear today. Checking with Techstream produced D3 tyre sensor faulty with it's code number. The other three tyre pressures, and temperatures were shown, but this does not tell you which wheel the problem is on. With Techstream still connected I lowered the tyre pressures in each tyre noting which pressure altered (D1, D2, --, D4) marking the wheels accordingly. The tyre with the suspect transmitter was the rear NS. I had the transmitter removed by my local friendly tyre dealer, and a rubber valve put in it's place. I then went home with the offending item. Picture (1) I gently prised off the cover of the unit. This took about 30 seconds. Picture (2) Gently scraping off the soft sealant over the battery. This took about 2 minutes. Picture (3) I peeled off the tag connector. About 1 minute. Picture (4) Gently prised out the battery removing the underside tag. Again about 1 minute. Picture (5) The battery was a Panasonic BR2450 "Same as CR2450" reading 2.8 volts. Not having one of these to hand I replaced it temporarily with a CR2032 held in place with my fingers. I took it out to the car, and turned the car on. The system fault had disappeared, and was now showing a flat tyre obviously because I was holding the sensor without any air pressure. I have ordered 5 tagged BR2450 batteries at a cost of £3-22 pence. As soon as they arrive one will be soldered back to the OEM tags, and the valve refitted. The other batteries will be kept ready for failures of the other valves. The total cost per wheel with the charges from my tyre dealer for refitting, and balancing (£10) will be £10-65 pence. Plus 5 minutes work at my desk. These pressure units could easily be made with a compartment so that the batteries could be change readily, but I suppose the manufacturers are making to much profit for this to happen. John.

It’s been around a year since I purchased my GS450h. I figured it might be useful to others to do a review of what a year of owning one of these cars is like. My Car It’s 2008 (MKIII) GS450h SE-L, with ACC (adaptive cruise control), PCS (pre-collision system), and a sunroof. This means it’s the top model, with every option ticked. It’s black with light grey leather, and piano black wood including wood inserts on the steering wheel. At the time I bought the car it had approximately 58,000 miles on the clock. It’s now on about 72,000. I bought it from Lexus Edgware Road. Driving Experience I’ll get to the point, it’s fast. When the battery has charge and the 3.5 V6 is warmed up it’s very quick, especially above 50 mph. The rate at which you can gain speed when you floor it once you’re already moving is incredible. Off the line it’s quick without being ridiculous, and if you find yourself in a situation where the battery is depleted (say, having crawled through slow traffic for a mile or two), outright full bore acceleration is blunted as you’re relying purely on the V6 to haul 1900 KG of car and driver up the road. While undeniably quick, I wouldn’t describe the GS as ‘fun’ to drive on a twisty road. It’s certainly competent, and between point A to point B is probably just as rapid as the obvious competition, but I do have the sense that you’d be having more fun in a BMW 5 Series. The handling is predictable, grip is good, but you do get the sense the car would rather you stopped being silly and drove properly. The flip side of this is that it’s outstandingly comfortable when driving at 7/10ths, and is quiet, comfortable, and competent. So, it’s fast, but it’s not sporty. I also find myself missing the soundtrack of a car accelerating through the gears, but that’s mostly because I’m immature. The rest of the time when you’re not driving like you're qualifying it’s a very smooth and comfortable drive. The radar cruise control is absolutely excellent, as is the stereo and infotainment system. Following a few weeks of driving brand new Lexus courtesy cars I was glad to leave their garish graphics and contrived menus behind and get back to the simplicity and elegance of my decade old GS450. I’m half considering a GROM VLINE to bring connected apps into the car, but at £500 there are more pressing uses for my money. I do with the car had a bigger fuel tank. With my fuel consumption (see below) I'm generally needing to refuel after about 320 miles. An 80 litre tank would make my trips to the forecourt far less frequent. The silent running when stuck in traffic (as I frequently am in Cambridge) is really enjoyable, as is the feeling of cruising along burning no fuel. This is an addictive quality of hybrids that is hard to appreciate if you’ve never driven one before. Obviously subjective, but in terms of looks I think it looks best from the rear three quarter view, and overall it’s not as good looking as a Mercedes CLS or properly specced BMW 5 Series. Maintenance Since I bought my car from Lexus, it came with a 12 month warranty. In the 12 months I’ve owned the car the following things have been replaced under warranty (remember this is a relatively low mileage car with a full Lexus service history, bought from a Lexus dealer). TPMS sensor Water pump Offside rear shock absorber Driver side washer jet Passenger side washer jet Driver’s door mirror Front passenger seatbelt and mechanism I’m not quite sure what this lot would have cost had I been paying myself, and to be honest I probably would have sorted the easy ones myself, but I’d say it’s comfortably in the £1,200 to £1,500 range. I had an issue with my brake light switch which was resolved by the AA (cover included as part of the Lexus warranty). I’ve had the car serviced once in my ownership, that was relatively cheap at around £250, including the Lexus Owners Club discount. My next service at 80,000 miles will be a bit chunkier at around £500 but that’s some months away. Last October I bought four new Michelin Pilot Sport 4 tyres to replace the budget tyres Lexus sold it with. The Michelin PS4s were around £650. Tyre wear is predictable and I expect the Michelins to last about 15,000 to 18,000 miles. I’m perfectly happy with this as this as the PS4 is a high performance tyre and they’ve barely lost traction in the entire time they’ve been fitted – money well spent. I’ve had one wheel refurbed following a close encounter with a kerb, which was £85 from Lexus. I bought a front wiper blade at around £20. I’ve not spent anything on the brakes since ownership, though I will need new discs and pads front and back in the next few thousand miles, for which I’m looking at £700 ish. I’ve taken the two year Lexus warranty which is £1095, which I’m paying off at 0% over 12 months. This seemed like a no-brainer given the relatively high number of issues thus far, plus for peace of mind. You don't need much to go wrong on a decade old £50K Lexus before you comfortably cover the warranty outlay. Fuel Consumption This is where Fuelly comes into its own. Every time I’ve refuelled the car I’ve (very anally) entered the details into the app. Screen shots below. In terms of outright fuel consumption it’s not what you’d call economical, but it is pretty good relative to its size, weight, comfort and especially performance. To put the 28 mpg of my GS450 in context, over the same sort of use in my BMW E46 330i I was getting 23 mpg, in a Toyota Prius 1.8 I get 46 mpg, and in a Volvo S80 D5 I was getting 38 mpg. It seems I have a heavy right foot, or I’m just a rubbish driver, or maybe both. As stated above I wish it had a bigger fuel tank. 320 miles between fill ups isn't ideal. Owning my Lexus My local Lexus dealer - Cambridge - is also essentially the same as my local Toyota dealer so I see them a lot between warranty claims on my Lexus and regular servicing on my 20,000 miles per year Prius. I’d say they are pretty good, but hardly exemplary. The staff are lovely when you’re there, the coffee is good, and they have the option of collecting my cars from my office and dropping back, which is really convenient. I have needed to escalate and push to get things done in a reasonable time, and I’m not sure they are really that switched on when it comes to customer retention. I’ll carry on using them but I’m not sure I’d chose a car because of them… Will I keep my Lexus? In short, yes. I certainly plan to run my GS450 for at least another two years while it’s still under warranty and potentially more if it seems to be holding up well. I’m not entirely sure on what to replace it with anyway. My experience of modern Lexuses have left me a bit cold, and aside from a MKIV GS450h not much else appeals. I’ve looked with interest at the Infiniti M35h but an E Class convertible appeals despite the diesel engine. Thoughts on Lexus as a brand I’m not sure I necessarily see myself as a dyed in the wool Lexus owner. I really like my car and appreciate its virtues but the current range of Lexus cars doesn’t really stir me, and the absence of non-SUV Lexus estate means when I need to replace my family transport Toyota Prius with something bigger I’ll end up looking at E Classes and 5 Series which is annoying as something like a GS300h Estate would be ideal. As a Lexus driver there is a slight feeling of being in a Toyota with better quality materials and finish, which isn’t really surprising but may not be what everyone wants from their luxury motoring. Would I recommend a GS450? Hell yes! Brilliant car and if you buy well/have a warranty/are lucky then it’s also very cheap to run. In my view I’m running a £50K car with almost all the peace of mind of a new car but at a far reduced cost. Thanks for reading.

That's on my list after the extended warranty ends, though to be honest, at the moment my tyre wear is pretty even.

Water getting into the engine can explain why the engine is caput, why then the Hybrid System died as well?

The engine ingested some water through the air intake. As water isn't compressible it would stop the pistons rising and may bend the con rod(s) and/or blow the head gasket. If the engine was revving the sudden stop can damage the transmission as well

Well buy a load more and they could be free gifts with the Gold Membership My membership is due for renewal.

I'm guessing the 'puddle' he quoted was more than what most people would consider a puddle. Said his car needs a new engine as well as hybrid system so must have been quite deep. I don't think it is an inherent fault with hybrid water proofing, rather just exceeding of standard wade depth that would affect most cars. I feel for him, I live in a rural area quite prone to flooding and it is shocking how many people ruin engines driving through water. The hill at the bottom near where I live is nightmare for it, there is a dip just before the river that is prone to pooling water. Only single track road with no pavements either side, if you didn't know you would never guess the road dips like it does Hope he gets it sorted on his insurance. If I was forced to go through a deep puddle (and I can't think of a situation where that would happen), I would force EV mode. Fingers crossed it won't ever come to that, I'll take Texas's approach. I might contact the council, never thought before, but could be worth a warning sign.

I don't think there is a filter for the gearbox. Personally I think 100k miles is a lot for any sort of fluid so I'd recommend changing it. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk

@Rusty Crobar I like that phrase I shall use it myself if I ever get stopped by the zee policeman.......” Officer me speeding no no no I was just driving recreationally “ 🐀

@janey can you pin this one as well please?

Pinned 😉

@IIVORC Ian pleased for you both for the car having a refresh and good service from Lexus Plymouth. Its been said many times but they really are a great car and it never ceases to amaze me when people comment how tight they still feel even as the miles pile up. I know that @Rusty Crobar car is well over the 100k I wonder on the forum who has the highest mileage IsF 🤔 Good post Ian 👍 Big Rat

Don’t buy lowering spring. Go for coilovers. Mine are still very comfy, oe shockers are too expensive. I bought a full set of BC coilovers ant they’re great. Car looks good too in my opinion. Handles great! before... after...

At the age and mileage of the car I would have thought a new engine and hybrid system will come to more than the insurance write off value so if the insurance cover this damage then I would not be surprised if they declare it a write off.

Yes, but this thread is 5% faster

This feels very much like the conversation on this very forum about the RC-F in 2015; Plenty of skepticism and concern about value for money. But look how many RC-F owners there are now on here. I predict in 2021 all us LC owners of the future will be saying the same about something else

i find this hard to believe, new engine and hybrid??? might as well buy anew car then. i would go for a second opinion, other dealer, lexus indie?

I suppose one can go past a camera in an average speed zone at way above the set limit as long as one doesn't arrive at the second camera too early!

I have the Takeda intake installed in my ISF. Without watching the video as I fitted mine myself, did you disconnect the battery? I kept mine connected. It wasn't until I had the battery changed recently and the ECU reset as a result that the car felt a lot more responsive with the intake fitted. May be my imagination though 😉

@liambart Essex V6 one of the all time great engines, nice and grunty😁 Big Rat

What a beauty!

There are more registered LC's than RCF's on Howmanyleft so it's not sold badly considering they've only been around for over a year...

When I was having the Rcf serviced I had a long look at the LC they had in the showroom. Lovely thing and I could see some nice touches. But came to the conclusion it wasn't worth double the price I'd paid for the Rcf.

I think the LC is targeted more at 911 buyers, it was twice the price of an ISF new and it will be a long long time before they are available for that price imo

It feels slightly a it more smoother. That maybe because I have been driving with a snapped exhaust for a few weeks. Ill have a good blast with the car on sports mode on the weekend and let you know The cost was: £479.00 He had to replace 2 exhausts parts. The main and exhaust and the Y section.

Hi Zubair, how is it going? Any luck? My colleague has similar issue (not to the same extent though), his Peugeot was picked up yesterday from our work (very nice of the Peugeot) for MOT and Service, he was promised a call back at 3pm, at 3.10 he called them just to find out that the car failed an MOT, something with the ball joint and the worst thing - he couldn't get a car until it's fixed, apparently it is illegal he's been told so he had to leave the car with them and approve the repair work for today! The thing is - they never called earlier or on time to tell the guy that he won't have his car, luckily he found a lift home and staying not that far. All UK garages are mafia!

So like a few of you my RCF is my daily car, but I really don't do many miles in a year nowadays <4k. My pride & joy is my UK Spec MKIV Supra. And for track duty I have an old MR2, which is quite rough around the edges, but means I don't care if i run out of talent on an airfield or track somewhere

In our house that sort of thing is described as a bit 'Kardashian'.

Across 4 I’ve owned and one my father had with 200k plus miles the following across the 5 Rust on 2 (both under 6yo) - bearing in mind one of them was £75k new Wheel bearing failure on my E claaa Collapsed suspension springs on my E class Rear air suspension failure - not great on a £75k car with 60k on the clock 3 had the 7 speed gearbox. Two had gearbox issues, the S class probably needs a new one as it’s bumping the 5 to 4 change badly Various sensor problems in all but 2 Rattling cam chain on my c class Corroded pipes for the PAS in my c class Abs and esp faults on the S class Fuel leaks in my last E class Injector failure in my E class causing misfires and EML Steering rack leak on my E class - nothing topping up the reservoir didn’t leak but the steering would randomly squeak - actually the S class does this too. All of them have had dash rattles, poor trim etc Smelly aircon in the S and my last E class Manifold and swirl flap motor failure on my e class Flaking paint on my e class Juddering in my E220 - likely a torque converter was on its way out Don’t believe the forums and myths where people say these are reliable dependable cars. They’re really bad Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I miss the soft speed limiter I had on my Mercs, I would set it to the signposted limit and drive normally, in the knowledge I couldn't accidentally accelerate over the limit. Cruise control just doesn't work in these situations, unless the radar controlled version, even then it's always trying to accelerate to the set cruise speed. The (undocumented) speed camera alert in the RC works really well when driving unfamiliar roads.

Hi Nicky It does sound like an issue with the battery pack, probably one or more cells having gone bad. Might be worth speaking to Richard: http://www.hybridbatterysolutions.co.uk