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hi yes you do need the disc for the sat nave to function. the system is quite aged by now and even if you buy the latest disc, the system will have its limitations compared to standalone units or the smart phone navs. personal opinion if sat nav is a major factor to consider then just stick to a stand alone system as you mentioned.

I have working sat nav, but never use it. An £80 tomtom, including 4 free map updates a year for life, blows it in to the weeds I'm afraid.

William, I hope you enjoy your 'new' motor. I would have liked to have had a drive in a 7 series just to compare it to my Mk4, especially one of the earlier older style cars. The same goes for an XJ Jag, (I love the look of them), but I'm still very happy to be wafting around in my LS for now. Can't really see myself in anything else to be honest. Dull, boring to look at ? Maybe to some people, but what car is as comfy, as smooth and as reliable as an LS?........ Exactly.

John, the Sat-Nav in the MK4 is old but so are most of the routes you will take. The only drawback is that you can't input a destination via a postcode as you can with say, a Garmin or Tom Tom etc. Having said that, I reckon 'her' voice commands are better and clearer than any modern shop bought sat-nav, bearing in mind the limitations of this unit. Performance wise the Mk4 has VVT-i and it shows. It pulls like a train through the entire rev range in PWR mode, and still gives the same mpg as in the older models. There are a few more updates I could mention such as electronic dipping side mirrors when you put the car into reverse, etc. Stuff like that. Hope you find a good one, but you'll find low mileage ones are now attracting higher prices than before.

John The Mark 4 is the one to go for what it as in upgrades on the mark 3 makes it a no brainer. The navigation system is OK for long runs as long as you don't put post 97 destinations in or use the M6 toll or by passes post 97 If you are just looking for a route finder it is still very usable, the CD is still about, last updated to about 2002. The system although not postcode as enough features to put in a close to your destination target even though it might not have your prescribed address on the out of date CD .I use it for trips down south from Scotland to Devon and it takes me to the house I go to door to door it is also very efficient in Scotland as they don't build new roads here apart from the M74 link to the M8 in Glasgow. The really scary thing is the journey south on the now M74 where around Lockerbie the kind lady tells you to turn right onto the Motorway which is as far as they had got around 96 in extending the M6 into Scotland along the route of the A74. The variants you refer to in fuel, gearbox and BHP were upgrades and in particular were brought about by the first V8 engine with vvt-i that brought about better fuel economy and more bottom end torque and it is very evident when you floor the gas pedal,this engine was the same engine bored out to give a further 300cc they put in the LS430.

hi i dont think there is any suspension differences - i remember buying the same 16 inch tyres aswell. the mark 4 though feels alot lighter due to the electronic throttle control here is what to look out for if buying a mark 4: If your looking to buy a Mark 4 here’s what to look out for: Make sure it has a full or at least a good service history which includes the cambelt change. On driving the ride should be quite smooth comfortable with no noises or creaks from the suspension. Gearbox changes should not be noticeable Upon inserting key the steering should tilt and retract - test and make sure the mechanism works When starting from cold the starter should engage and start the engine immediately - if there is clicking sound then be prepared to have the starter or starter contacts replaced - the is a big job - takes about 7 hours therefore costs a lot and finding a competent mechanic who has the knowledge to properly dismantle and reassemble everything may not be as easy as you think.. Braking should be quite and smooth - if you get a groaning noise when coming to stop that’s a sign of cheap aftermarket brake pads - they will need replacing. Check colour of gearbox oil it should be red with no smell of burning. Check all electrics work Check the temperature display backlight works - these fail and require a lot of dismantling to replace. Check the bonnet struts hold the bonnet Check there is no water or dampness in the spare wheel well - if yes then boot seal needs replacing or sealing Check the car has the correct Toyota red coolant Ask if the cabin filter has ever been changed - these are often over looked. Check toolkit is present Check for exhaust blow - the Y pipe is prone to leaking Make sure there are no warning lights lit in the dash Ideally you want 2 remote and one grey key Check the car has a matching set of tyres and wether they are branded or not - this should give an indication wether the car has been pampered or neglected Check the headlamp levelling mechanism still works - these often fail Before driving off make sure you have the say nav code and locking wheel nut key.

I think this is a brilliant to-do list. Even I could do the pollen filter! But make sure you have what is presumably special equipment to do everything!?

Still love how the seat and steering wheel move upon start up and shut down. Makes getting in and out much easier

First on my wish list would be some wheels which didn't look like stylised late 19th century wooden spoked cart wheels ( which most modern cars seem to have).Surely there is something which is more aerodynamic. Next would be mirrors which didn't stick out like someone designed a body without thinking about how to see what lies behind.( how about cameras?) Factory fitted crash and tamper cameras would also be of great use since supermarket damage accounts for most of my bodywork expenditure. Wrap technology has moved with the times so renewable bodywork wraps which are printable would be a neat idea. People could change their car colour(s) design or finish within a day and also ensure that the dreaded tin worm is kept at bay. How about something built into the engine which analyses and reports the ph, state of contamination and viscosity of the lubricant? All wheel drive isn't really required to run much above 30mph for the majority of applications so it lends itself to the hybrid application very well; energy recovery is also easier to arrange from two, three or four inputs too. ( in fact, 4wd is only ever useful for the majority of us at less than walking pace in muddy fields or snowy car parks and drive ways, 4 wheel regenerative braking would in fact be used far more frequently than the extra drive traction) TBH ,I havent looked at modern CT200s have they started to equip them with gas strut bonnet stays yet? My 2011 has an old fashioned prop which holds the bonnet open... Cuh!!! even the humble BMW Mini has gas struts holding its bonnet open! Air conditioning systems could do with a built in system sanitising circuit... something which simply channels the 90 degC summer coolant through the cooling matrix in order to kill those bugs which make the air conditioning stink. This combined with better cooling matrix condensation drains which don't block up would save many owners the inconvenience of entrusting their pride and joy to the dealers air conditioning "specialist" ( sent by the manufacturers on a two week course if you're lucky instead of a four year college course which real air conditioning technicians have to attend). Did you know that the highest speed land vehicles in the world have solid tyres? A flat road tyre may be eliminated by using better design of wheels and suspension along with solid tyres running on split rims. No goo, no pump, no space saver, no worries. Thirty years ago, I drove a Toyota crown with a straight 6 2.6 litre engine. It handled like a camel on roller skates but when I dropped my friend off at the airport, I pushed a button from the drivers seat and the boot unlocked itself and opened in order to allow my passenger to access his bags. Very few cars seem to do this any more... why not? I have a portable cooler which will run off a cigar lighter socket. Again the humble mini has a cigar lighter socket in the boot and yet the luxury Lexus CT200 doesnt. Finally, there is very little storage space in my 2011 lexus CT200. except that if I need to I can keep half a gallon of drinks in a total of 4 drinks holders accessible to the occupants in the front seats. Not a single drinks storage space for back seat occupants or even an arm rest. Did this get fixed for later CTs or are we still waiting? Those are just a few of my ideas. I hope this sows a few seeds and provokes a few thoughts.