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Just seen this earlier tonight on Quest. Good looking old bus but not much for Ed to fix this time round.

The mobster... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TR1O6O5FqY The drug dealer... The inconsiderate parker... Another inconsiderate parker... The rapper/drug dealer... The weirdo... The modern police car... Last of all - The typical Lexus dealer...

I have offered this before but no-one took it and so I am offering it again. I have an IS250 owners Manual that someone might like to make use of. For some reason I ended up with two of them when I had my 57 plate IS 250 SE-L. If anyone is in need of a manual they can have it for the cost of the postage, which probably won't amount to much.

I laughed when I found this on my old LS. I dont think another car manufacturer has ever had such a device. I discovered the coin tray to the right of the wheel months later one day when I was sitting in traffic. The laugh was, there was £4 in it.

LS owners come from all walks of life, although they don't appear to be doing to well in the movies.

george for that much difference i would be inclined to stick to oem

George, like you I prefer quiet. Having said that, although the stainless steel exhausts I had fitted were slightly noisier I'd still go for them in future.

To my mind the LS 400 Mk4 has everything you really need, a decent seat, great gear box, hardy engine, good build, electric mirrors, traction control, CD player, even a cassette deck etc etc. The only thing it could do with is some USB ports and a MP3 input jack for the all the gubbins we now have. I have no need of a fridge, or massage seats, or on board TV's and so on, just adds weight and more stuff to go out of data/break. Maybe in the future we will have cars with on-board log fires, personal gym, four-poster bed and saw horse - to name a few - but I will still feel I have everything most sane drivers need when I will still be pottering about in my Mk4.

Not to mention the ability to carry 3m lengths of copper tubing (or whatever) with the sunroof open (suitably padded, of course)!

I love it. "come on love, there's room for you here on these boards when we visit your Mum...."

I have had the same thoughts since the move onwards from the LS400 The 430 was a step backwards and there have been issues with the 460s . In the defence of Lexus engineers they have not had the funding that went with the LS400 initial concept from new scenario and they did have ten years after the initial launch to perfect the LS400 . They will not ever get that again with a new model as their competitors and the market place move too fast in the modern age of car design. So to sum up I think that the LS400 Mark 4 was as near as you will get to perfection in a Luxury sedan in its class.

Totally versatile, mine has had many a trip to the local tip with more than a few bags of heavy soil etc. Also when I used to run local school bar for fund raising events, found you could get a heck of a lot of beer in the boot and car was drive-able (steering a bit light), and would still pull like a train. Who needs a pickup (Well having seen some USA conversions, would be great if I could get my hands on one for this 'awkward' loads)

I replaced original exhausts on both a BMW 735 and my last GS300 with custom-made stainless steel and in both cases the ss ones had a higher, tinnier sound ...and yes, I know they quieten down a bit after they get a carbon coating. Before I made the change I asked the Longlife guy about extra noise and he said that ss will always be noisier than mild steel. I still went with ss due to cost issues.

I have ss back boxes on my gs430 and they are very quiet, and when you put your foot down slowly you will only hear a lovely humming noise from them

I have to ask, why would a SS system not be as quiet as an OEM system, my LS400 has an OEM stainless steel system and you can't get much quieter than the LS400, surely the noise levels can be accomodated into the required customer requirements of a custom made SS system.

Might also be worth trying:- http://www.lexuspartsdirect.co.uk/ Stainless steel definitely won't be as quiet as OEM

Longlife , Unit A4 Front, Nup End Business Centre, Knebworth, Hertfordshire SG3 6QJ.

You could get a whole (from the cat back) custom-built stainless steel exhaust for around that price. I used Longlife on my last GS300 and they did a great job http://www.longlife.co.uk