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I'm trying EBC grooved discs, and haven't noticed any extra noise; however, they seem to be a lot more resistant to wear than the OEM lexus discs. The EBC redstuff pads I've paired with them are quiet, stop well and are a lot less dusty than OEM (but even these produce quite a lot of dust). My understanding is that lexus use very aggresive pads (because the IS250 has undersized discs). Because these wear discs so quickly, it's not uncommon for OEMs to specify the lowest grade of disc available, on the basis that the wear from these pads is so severe, higher grade discs will still end up getting demolished; so if the discs are sacrificial, they might as well be the cheapest possible. High-end aftermarket discs are usually made of a very hard grade of iron, so may be more expensive than the OEM discs - whether they are good value is open for debate. My hope is that the ceramic restuff pads are less aggressive than the metal-filled OEM pads, so that I get a lot more use out of these expensive discs. This is yet to be proven, but my initial impression on 4000 miles of urban and country road driving, is that they certainly aren't worse, and are probably a lot better.

Had some photos taken of my now 9 month old when she was born. This was my favourite. My wife ordered it and it arrived em early :) so chuffed! Stu

Aha........... a bit like Lexus then maybe !!! Malc

This is the sort of scenario that scares me rigid when I ever think to change from my Ls400 ......... just got to keep mine going for another 25 years then :outforcount: Malc

Sadly it's all down to the individual at every dealers. Glad you got a good experiance in the end.

I agree that the standard set up can always be bettered ie two or three pot calipers , drilled and grooved discs etc you will have more brake dust if you go this route though, it's horses for courses , depends what you use your car for, is your present braking system working correctly ? The is250 is quite a heavy car so does take some stopping.....good gripping tyres are also part of the braking scenario don't forget. Have you had your brake calipers checked to see that none of the slide pins are seized, this would impair the braking quite significantly .....just a thought, Allan

Not sure how you would do it apart from a home modification. Personally i prefer the first picture, clean and tidy lines.

Double the pleasure, double the fun. You are twice as lucky as the rest of is to have two beautiful rides! Congrats.