Ultimate Tyre Wear/life Thread

[LennyLexus]

Fellow LOCers,

I'm not sure if this has been done before but could everyone provide the following information?

Hopefully this thread should be a good guide for everyone when looking for new tyres.

MAKE/MODEL: OEM Bridgestones

SIZE: OEM 17s (215/45-R17)

MILEAGE: 20k

THREAD LEFT: 3-4mm (approx)

DRIVING STYLE: 65% Gentleman, 35% Agressive

OTHER NOTES: Tyres has 6-7mm(Approx) of thread on when brought from Lexus Bristol in Sept 2003. A rotation was done after 5k. And geometry was corrected after 5k.

[mudzs]

MAKE/MODEL: pirrelli p zeros

SIZE: OEM 18 s

MILEAGE: 15k

THREAD LEFT: 3mm (approx)fronts 0mm inside edge of rears

DRIVING STYLE: 80% Gentleman, 20% Agressive

OTHER NOTES:rears have worn very badly on the inside edge and need replacing asap ,but fronts still have lots of tread left and have worn very evenly.

[Tony-Bones]

I'm going to enjoy this... and its Saturday night...

[Bob King]

MAKE..........Hankook Ventus Sport K104,

SIZE..........215-45-ZR17,

MILEAGE.......187 :o

TREAD LEFT.......as new,

Driving Style..........90% Gentleman, 10% with enthusiasm :winky: .

[PhoneDrome]

After one good season 2004:

MAKE/MODEL: Uniroyal Rainsport 1

SIZE: 225/40R18

MILEAGE: 15k

THREAD LEFT: 4-5mm fronts, 1mm rears (got new set of RS1 in March)

DRIVING STYLE: 50/50

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Now supercharged :shutit: less milage on the rears.

[chunkymonkey]

MAKE/MODEL: Fulda / Carot Extremo

SIZE: OEM 17s (235/45-R17)

MILEAGE: 15k

THREAD LEFT: 1-2mm (approx)

DRIVING STYLE: 100% Gentleman, 0% Agressive

OTHER NOTES: Cupping wear on the inside of the near side front and rear tyres, causing horrible noise. Going to replace them with Continental SportContact 2's.

[peter026]

Make Bridgestone Potenzza

Size 225/55/16

Mileage. On when bought the car last August

I've done 6K

Thread left 4 mm front and back

Driving style 95% sedately 5% oomph

[Tony-Bones]

MAKE/MODEL: pirrelli p zeros

SIZE: OEM 18 s

MILEAGE: 15k

THREAD LEFT: 3mm (approx)fronts    0mm inside edge of rears

DRIVING STYLE: 80% Gentleman, 20% Agressive

OTHER NOTES:rears have worn very badly on the inside edge and need replacing asap ,but fronts still have lots of tread left and have worn very evenly.

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I dont feel so happy now! i thought this thread would be "tyre wear". The badly worn area denies any scale and retracts back to geom.. I think "we" need a "geom" health check meet, if only to remove that "badly worn" area! from this simple post?

[mudzs]

I agree mate have been thinking of paying you a visit ,getting time inbetween work difficult though so will wait until i have some time of .car has a shake at speed now as well coming from the back i asume this is to do with the uneven wear .

[chib1177]

make- oem bridgestones

size- 17"

mileage- 10600

tread left- 5mm allround still got the little bobbles on the side :D

driving style- 90% blue rinse 10% brown trouser

other notes- tyres are in perfect condition even wear allround no worn parts.

[Tony-Bones]

I agree mate have been thinking of paying you a visit ,getting time inbetween work difficult though so will wait until i have some time of .car has a shake at speed now as well coming from the back i asume this is to do with the uneven wear .

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Dont say things like that you scare me!.. go! and have a look at the rear tyres, make "sure" they are ok!......

I want to do a "free" geometry health check day @ STS Watford, lets say a geom meet so that anyone can get an insight of the cars geom condition! this will only involve Camber and Toe front and rear ( adjustable IS angles ) and will take about 10 min per car.. "explination" about 15min per car? thing is i think i can involve STS "big" time with support for LOC and offer you peace of mind "or not!". All i need is Scorpion as my "mentor". i think i should be asking him before i send this post?.. "now i'm for it"....oh well he will understand.

[mudzs]

I agree mate have been thinking of paying you a visit ,getting time inbetween work difficult though so will wait until i have some time of .car has a shake at speed now as well coming from the back i asume this is to do with the uneven wear .

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Dont say things like that you scare me!.. go! and have a look at the rear tyres, make "sure" they are ok!......

I want to do a "free" geometry health check day @ STS Watford, lets say a geom meet so that anyone can get an insight of the cars geom condition! this will only involve Camber and Toe front and rear ( adjustable IS angles ) and will take about 10 min per car.. "explination" about 15min per car? thing is i think i can involve STS "big" time with support for LOC and offer you peace of mind "or not!". All i need is Scorpion as my "mentor". i think i should be asking him before i send this post?.. "now i'm for it"....oh well he will understand.

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Rear tyres are knackered ,inside two inches completly bald booked in for new tyres on monday ,cars has always been twichy as well ,if i hit a manhole or a bump in the wet especialy the whole rear end feels like it moves sideways ,done this since new lexus said the size of the tyres causes it .i liken it to the feeling of when the void bushes used to go in older cars

[Tony-Bones]

I agree mate have been thinking of paying you a visit ,getting time inbetween work difficult though so will wait until i have some time of .car has a shake at speed now as well coming from the back i asume this is to do with the uneven wear .

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Dont say things like that you scare me!.. go! and have a look at the rear tyres, make "sure" they are ok!......

I want to do a "free" geometry health check day @ STS Watford, lets say a geom meet so that anyone can get an insight of the cars geom condition! this will only involve Camber and Toe front and rear ( adjustable IS angles ) and will take about 10 min per car.. "explination" about 15min per car? thing is i think i can involve STS "big" time with support for LOC and offer you peace of mind "or not!". All i need is Scorpion as my "mentor". i think i should be asking him before i send this post?.. "now i'm for it"....oh well he will understand.

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Rear tyres are knackered ,inside two inches completly bald booked in for new tyres on monday ,cars has always been twichy as well ,if i hit a manhole or a bump in the wet especialy the whole rear end feels like it moves sideways ,done this since new lexus said the size of the tyres causes it .i liken it to the feeling of when the void bushes used to go in older cars

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No way would any car be made that would allow the back end to over steer and wear tyres so bad....Lexus are talking "pants" what tyre size and make do you have?

[Rob]

sp9000

17"

mileage approx 30,000

tread approx 2mm left ( so need changing)

90% calm 10% enthusiastic

tyres get loud when worn also no grip if its really cold or any form of snow/ice ( well it is a summer tyre!)

[Scorpion]

All i need is Scorpion as my "mentor". i think i should be asking him before i send this post?.. "now i'm for it"....oh well he will understand.

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Been thinking of this for a while but didn't know if it would be possible or not(depending on how many actually turn up)...or how to approach you about it as its time consuming plus STS is a business and didn't want take up all the bays for LOC,thus turning away other motorists who want the same thing.

Let me know your thoughts.

[Tony-Bones]

sp9000

17"

mileage approx 30,000

tread approx 2mm left ( so need changing)

90% calm 10% enthusiastic

tyres get loud when worn also no grip if its really cold or any form of snow/ice ( well it is a summer tyre!)

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SP9000 "directional all weather has it's problems, the directional tyre in general has a major flaw! I wrote two papers on this topic for arbitration in the states and nearly got called as an "expert" adviser, thank *** i got out of it! me and planes dont mix: if you want to view the papers? then please tell me "how" do i display emails on the forum.

[Tony-Bones]

All i need is Scorpion as my "mentor". i think i should be asking him before i send this post?.. "now i'm for it"....oh well he will understand.

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Been thinking of this for a while but didn't know if it would be possible or not(depending on how many actually turn up)...or how to approach you about it as its time consuming plus STS is a business and didn't want take up all the bays for LOC,thus turning away other motorists who want the same thing.

Let me know your thoughts.

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I understand: when "my" involvement with LOC began i was on own within STS, no one had done what i had done. A member of their staff builds a web site and "slates" fast fit to the max, and i work within it? For me the facts within my site could have cost me my job ( 24 years ). The reality of WIM has grown within LOC, and STS has been watching my methodes, now they understand that "we" are in a "new" area between fast fit and the main dealer, and STS want to build on this new path.."But" i wont be pushed, it's my way or no way..

£must not be the motivation, this means that any work is "personal" i feel this is the way it should be..... sorry to go on, but thats it to date.

The "geometry" health check will be an opportunity for anyone who feels worried about the set-up, a basic image of the car and peace of mind, or not! the cost £0, but at least you know in advance things are wrong!!!

Scorpion you are my "mentor" for the members of LOC, i will need your support to guide "who" can and "who" can't have the geometry in regard to "body height".

The booking side will be a Saturday, LOC only 8 till 5.

[Rob]

sp9000

17"

mileage approx 30,000

tread approx 2mm left ( so need changing)

90% calm 10% enthusiastic

tyres get loud when worn also no grip if its really cold or any form of snow/ice ( well it is a summer tyre!)

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SP9000 "directional all weather has it's problems, the directional tyre in general has a major flaw! I wrote two papers on this topic for arbitration in the states and nearly got called as an "expert" adviser, thank *** i got out of it! me and planes dont mix: if you want to view the papers? then please tell me "how" do i display emails on the forum.

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whats the flaw with them tony? i understand that if ( like anything) there is an advantage in one area u will loose in the other, i have been happy with them as for me my main advantage is wear rate, im not and dont drive like a boy racer, most of my travel is on motorway/main roads anyway, so im not after anything that is soft, eg some of the pirelli tyres that only last about 20 -25k km. i was thinking about the bf goodrich g force profiler but found out it hasnt done too well in the tests and is fairly soft also. think i will go with the newer dunlop sport maxx

[Scorpion]

Id be up for this.

As for "Ride height" id say a max of -40mm with STD wheels will be o.k but it would need to be confirmed so if there is any member out there with this set up who can help Tony build a database it would be very useful,so when the date is confirmed plz come along.

[mudzs]

I agree mate have been thinking of paying you a visit ,getting time inbetween work difficult though so will wait until i have some time of .car has a shake at speed now as well coming from the back i asume this is to do with the uneven wear .

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Dont say things like that you scare me!.. go! and have a look at the rear tyres, make "sure" they are ok!......

I want to do a "free" geometry health check day @ STS Watford, lets say a geom meet so that anyone can get an insight of the cars geom condition! this will only involve Camber and Toe front and rear ( adjustable IS angles ) and will take about 10 min per car.. "explination" about 15min per car? thing is i think i can involve STS "big" time with support for LOC and offer you peace of mind "or not!". All i need is Scorpion as my "mentor". i think i should be asking him before i send this post?.. "now i'm for it"....oh well he will understand.

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Rear tyres are knackered ,inside two inches completly bald booked in for new tyres on monday ,cars has always been twichy as well ,if i hit a manhole or a bump in the wet especialy the whole rear end feels like it moves sideways ,done this since new lexus said the size of the tyres causes it .i liken it to the feeling of when the void bushes used to go in older cars

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No way would any car be made that would allow the back end to over steer and wear tyres so bad....Lexus are talking "pants" what tyre size and make do you have?

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They are 18 /245/40z pirreli asimmetrico

[Tony-Bones]

sp9000

17"

mileage approx 30,000

tread approx 2mm left ( so need changing)

90% calm 10% enthusiastic

tyres get loud when worn also no grip if its really cold or any form of snow/ice ( well it is a summer tyre!)

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SP9000 "directional all weather has it's problems, the directional tyre in general has a major flaw! I wrote two papers on this topic for arbitration in the states and nearly got called as an "expert" adviser, thank *** i got out of it! me and planes dont mix: if you want to view the papers? then please tell me "how" do i display emails on the forum.

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whats the flaw with them tony? i understand that if ( like anything) there is an advantage in one area u will loose in the other, i have been happy with them as for me my main advantage is wear rate, im not and dont drive like a boy racer, most of my travel is on motorway/main roads anyway, so im not after anything that is soft, eg some of the pirelli tyres that only last about 20 -25k km. i was thinking about the bf goodrich g force profiler but found out it hasnt done too well in the tests and is fairly soft also. think i will go with the newer dunlop sport maxx

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The "flaw" is the pattern of wear, the issue is who is to blame.. the car manufacture blames the tyre manufacture, and the tyre blames the car! so little old me got pulled in the middle by NOC USA, the two papers i wrote was in defence of both, and damming of both, i can display the "highlights" here if you can tell me how to import an email, if not i can re-type it but due to injury with one hand only it will take me all day...

[Tony-Bones]

Id be up for this.

As for "Ride height" id say a max of -40mm with STD wheels will be o.k but it would need to be confirmed so if there is any member out there with this set up who can help Tony build a database it would be very useful,so when the date is confirmed plz come along.

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Thanks for your support.. maybe on sat we can set-up an image/ scale for LOC and make this "geom" meet happen, it will be nice to meet the face behind the text and give LOC members a free check up in an area that costs ££££ Scorpion you tell-em......

[bondms]

MAKE/MODEL: OEM Dunlop SP9000 Sport MFS

SIZE: OEM 17s (215/45-ZR17)

MILEAGE: 70350mi

THREAD LEFT: 2-3mm (approx) on the one remaining original tyre. All others have been replaced and have 5-7mm.

DRIVING STYLE: 95% Gentleman, 5% Agressive

OTHER NOTES:

The original rear tyres lasted around 40k mi.

The original front tyres were moved to the rear when the original rears wore out at 40k mi.

The passenger side was replaced again at about 60k mi so both tyres now have over 5 mm of tread.

The driver's side still has one original tyre with 2-3 mm of tread left after 70k mi. and one replacement tyre with around 5 mm of tread left.

[eddiea1]

MAKE/MODEL: GOODYEAR EAGLE F1s

SIZE: 18in (225/40R 18Z)

MILEAGE: 3k

THREAD LEFT: 6-7(approx)

DRIVING STYLE: 40% Gentleman, 60% Loony

OTHER NOTES: Bought from STS in Watford. Originally running at 33psi Geometry done new. Double checked after 3,000 miles, now running the tyres at 35psi as they were wearing on the edges quicker than in the centre.

[Tony-Bones]

MAKE/MODEL: GOODYEAR EAGLE F1s

SIZE: 18in (225/40R 18Z)

MILEAGE: 3k

THREAD LEFT: 6-7(approx)

DRIVING STYLE: 40% Gentleman, 60% Loony

OTHER NOTES: Bought from STS in Watford. Originally running at 33psi Geometry done new. Double checked after 3,000 miles, now running the tyres at 35psi as they were wearing on the edges quicker than in the centre.

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"Pressure" Eddie it's all down to pressure :D best thing is.... its not down to geometry. now you can relax.