Friends From Dudley Are Back

[Adam Evans]

http://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-motorbikes/2000w-lexus-ls400-40-v8-auto-fsh-full-mot-tax-feb-black-leathers-satnav-perfect-drive-1500/1037695572#photo-content

[Ruud]

MOT history check will reveal if it's been clocked by that much

[Lexmanic]

Is it still possible to 'clock' a car with a digital read-out If it is wouldn't the ECU recognise it??

[Adam Evans]

Yes absolutely. On most cars it can go undetected however on some of the new ones you can find out

For example

BMW - on the new ones you must clock the key too

As strange as it sounds when you switch off the mileage is stored in the key so the two must match up when you start up again otherwise it will throw up a fault. Obviously with 2 keys for the same car it is a little bit out it is ok but as long as the mileage doesn't go backwards.

Volvo - They throw up a dash error and engine management light comes on.

Figured that out when cam to plug into one for a friend years ago !!!

Personally I am not fussed what mileage is on a car. If it has been well looked after and serviced when it needs to be and it drives straight enough and sounds good enough (no rattles) then what is to hide.

If you lie about the mileage what else are you lying about

I know in a few years time that my Lexus will have probably close to 400000 on the clock and it will still be fine. I will never lose money on the car because the mileage has got past the point of anyone caring so I don't care either

If it drives sweet enough then that'll do for me

[Lexmanic]

I agree but to sell on a known clocker without telling the prospective buyer is I think you'll find is an offence. Its certainly grounds for a civil claim

[Adam Evans]

I agree but to sell on a known clocker without telling the prospective buyer is I think you'll find is an offence. Its certainly grounds for a civil claim

Absolutely

It's misrepresentation

It is actually a criminal offence.

However people do need this service because lets say next week your dash clocks on your 100k go faulty and you go out and get a second hand set of clocks and the new mileage on the new clocks is 200k you will clearly want it to be changed back.

That is the genuine reason- there are a few genuine reasons- not many though !!!!

Anyway we don't know if it has been given a haircut - we are just speculating from past experiences hey !!!

[Lexmanic]

If proven such behaviour would be subject to the 2006 Fraud Act

[fred81]

What's the history with this thing then?

[SHELLDRAKE]

My car (before the engine was changed) had done 152,332 miles. The replacement engine has done 100,000 what do I have to do just incase I sell it?

[fred81]

My car (before the engine was changed) had done 152,332 miles. The replacement engine has done 100,000 what do I have to do just incase I sell it?

Don't do anything, just explain that when you come to sell the car. The mileage covered doesn't just relate to the engine, but also the chassis and everything else.

[cruisermark]

i would just leave it as it is - dont bother changing the dash - if ever you sell it just show the buyer the paperwork from lexus - i wouldnt mind buying a car where lexus has changed the engine.

[Bluesman]

Just include your statement "My car (before the engine was changed) had done 152,332 miles. The
replacement engine has done 100,000 what do I have to do just incase I sell it"

Honesty will always sell.

[Bluesman]

We have a green one for sale now. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2000-W-LEXUS-LS400-FSH-FULL-MOT-TAX-FEB-DRIVES-GREAT-BLACK-LEATHERS-1450-/300998771275?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item4614ecc24b

[cruisermark]

yes thats the one which initially started this thread off!

[PEPE]

We have a green one for sale now. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2000-W-LEXUS-LS400-FSH-FULL-MOT-TAX-FEB-DRIVES-GREAT-BLACK-LEATHERS-1450-/300998771275?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item4614ecc24b

Looks very nice!

[fred81]

eBay ad says "FULL YEARS MOT WHICH PASSED WITH EASE"

gumtree says "FULL YEARS MOT WHICH COST £300 TO PASS"

£300 = EASE

yep

[PEPE]

ebay ad says "FULL YEARS MOT WHICH PASSED WITH EASE"

gumtree says "FULL YEARS MOT WHICH COST £300 TO PASS"

£300 = EASE

yep

Oh dear. It's a minefield out there.

[Bluesman]

I don't know how these people sleep at night. I know I am old and old fashioned but when I sell anything I am up front with everything that is wrong with it and of course I also put the things that are right with it. I just couldn't sell something knowingly with something wrong, I would be worried each time the phone rung.

[Titch LS]

Surprised to hear of an LS engine needing replacement after only 150,000 miles though.

[bigjap]

it may of had cambelt replaced at lexus dealership,as per previous thread on here

[The-Acre]

it may of had cambelt replaced at lexus dealership,as per previous thread on here

Very good! :winky:

[cruisermark]

the car in questions has been reduced to 1K - can't be making much profit now if original asking price was £1500

[steve2006]

It appears to have morphed into a Mazda now!

Must admit very effective selling method pay 10 pounds for the listing, sell off eBay so no fees then completely edit for another car.

[Bluesman]

It appears to have morphed into a Mazda now!

Must admit very effective selling method pay 10 pounds for the listing, sell off ebay so no fees then completely edit for another car.

They all get their just deserts in the end, just that your not there to see it.

[SHELLDRAKE]

Titch LS---I have heard of a 400 engine being replaced at 152,000------ it was mine,