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Hi Guys: refering back to the Ls400 (2000-W reg) 1 keeper for 8 years for sale on E.bay I sent an E.mail to him asking where the missing 5 years went to-----" the answer is " WHEN YOU PURCHASE A NEW VEHICLE FROM ANY DEALERSHIP,THE FIRST OWNER OF ANY VEHICLE IS CLASSIFIED AS THE-0- OWNER AND THEN WHEN IT IS SOLD ON TO THE NEXT INDIVIDUAL,HE/SHE BECOMES THE FIRST OWNER YOU CAN DOUBLE CHECK THIS WITH ANY GARAGE OR DEALERSHIP"

So now you know wher the 5 years went. :hohoho: :hohoho: :hohoho:

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No leave it as it is because using that equation makes me about 21 and with all the knowledge I have now but only being 21 years old I am going to have a fantastic time.

Let you know how I get on. Mike

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No leave it as it is because using that equation makes me about 21 and with all the knowledge I have now but only being 21 years old I am going to have a fantastic time.

Let you know how I get on. Mike

Go for it mike --give him hell

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Hey according to that system mine is still brand new with no UK owners at nearly 20 years old, what do you think it's worth then? :D :D :D

I can't get my head around this, surely that means my wife's car hasn't been built yet, therefore she doesn't need tax or insurance!.......

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No leave it as it is because using that equation makes me about 21 and with all the knowledge I have now but only being 21 years old I am going to have a fantastic time.

Let you know how I get on. Mike

Go for it mike --give him hell

Well I went up and had a shower, got some nice clothes on, touch of aftershave brush through what hair I have left, went downstairs sat in the chair to put some shoes on when I couldnt remember what it was I was going to do, the wife said dinners ready walked into the dining room and the wife said how nice it was to see I had put some effort into looking so smart for dinner.

Well at least my beloved is in a good mood. Mike

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No leave it as it is because using that equation makes me about 21 and with all the knowledge I have now but only being 21 years old I am going to have a fantastic time.

Let you know how I get on. Mike

Go for it mike --give him hell

Well I went up and had a shower, got some nice clothes on, touch of aftershave brush through what hair I have left, went downstairs sat in the chair to put some shoes on when I couldnt remember what it was I was going to do, the wife said dinners ready walked into the dining room and the wife said how nice it was to see I had put some effort into looking so smart for dinner.

Well at least my beloved is in a good mood. Mike

Hey wanna borrow my Tuxedo Mike :D

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No leave it as it is because using that equation makes me about 21 and with all the knowledge I have now but only being 21 years old I am going to have a fantastic time.

Let you know how I get on. Mike

Go for it mike --give him hell

Well I went up and had a shower, got some nice clothes on, touch of aftershave brush through what hair I have left, went downstairs sat in the chair to put some shoes on when I couldnt remember what it was I was going to do, the wife said dinners ready walked into the dining room and the wife said how nice it was to see I had put some effort into looking so smart for dinner.

Well at least my beloved is in a good mood. Mike

Hey wanna borrow my Tuxedo Mike :D

No its OK I'm exhausted and the wife has just made a nice cup of tea. Mike

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Hey according to that system mine is still brand new with no UK owners at nearly 20 years old, what do you think it's worth then? :D :D :D

I can't get my head around this, surely that means my wife's car hasn't been built yet, therefore she doesn't need tax or insurance!.......

I dont think your wife has been born yet according to that mathmatical system. Mike

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Not sure which car we are talking about but the eBay system certainly works on a "previous owners" basis.

What I mean by this is, if you fill in an advert on eBay using your car's registration number to pre-fill in all the information and you are the second owner then the eBay advert will say "Previous owners: 1". This isn't the seller's fault and is common across all adverts on eBay (and others for that matter). You can not put in your reg number but then potential buyers can't HPI check it via eBay and they think you're trying to hide something so, as a seller, you cannot win.

A one owner car will say "Previous owners: 0". This is kind of correct, as the current owner is not a "previous" owner until the car is sold.

Don't blame sellers for this confusion, blame the way the DVLA and eBay use the information. The explanation from the seller is basically correct - if you are the second owner of your car your V5 will also say "No. of Former Keepers: 1" in Section 2 and it is the way advert sites, most auction houses and the motor trade refers to owner numbers.

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Let me clear this up.

When a dealer buys a car from a manufacturer, even though they are the 1st. owner (as they bought the car), they are not the 1st owner because they're not going to keep it. When you buy the car from the dealer, you become the 1st owner, though the dealer who owned it before does not become a previous owner. Now, if you sell the car, you will be selling it to the person who becomes the 2nd owner, with the car, although having had 2 previous owners, will only really have been owned once before.Referring back to the Ls400 (2000-W reg) 13 years old, (we do not know if the dealer had been a keeper of this car for 5 years) 1 keeper for 8 years, the original dealer isn't classed as a keeper because he didn't keep the car. the 2nd owner, who sold the car after 8 years ceased to be a keeper of the car when he sold it to the 3rd owner who now becomes the 'only' keeper.

Keep up.

So, the W.reg LS400 will now be sold to the person who will become the 4th owner with only 1 previous owner. Once he becomes the owner he will be the only keeper as the others have now become exkeepers. When he sells the car he will obviously regard himself as the ''current'' owner and advertise the fact that the car has had only 1 'previous' owner.

I personally have never bought a car which was not previously owned by less than 4 exkeepers.

Hope this makes things simpler.

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