1999 Ls400 Temperature And Clock Backlight

[designit]

Hello All

Well I'm almost there with the small niggling faults on my 1999 LS400.

However there is one that I seem to be struggling with.

On the centre console, as part of the navigation system are 3 small LED displays for temperature on the drivers side (right), passenger side (left) and a clock and outside temperature in the middle. The displays work absolutely fine and are easily readable during the day. But the backlight on the clock and driver side temperature are out. So at night this cant be read.

I've had a look around and seems it's not that uncommon but I cant seem to find a solution.

There's loads of info on the display of the earlier LS's. Please dont get this fault mixed up with that one. Before I take it out could someone advise me whether or not this is fixable? I seem to have picked up from elsewear that they are not just bulbs behind the displays. Can anyone confir either way? It is irritating in an otherwise excellent car.

Thanks in advance.

[Dajwid]

Hello All

Well I'm almost there with the small niggling faults on my 1999 LS400.

However there is one that I seem to be struggling with.

On the centre console, as part of the navigation system are 3 small LED displays for temperature on the drivers side (right), passenger side (left) and a clock and outside temperature in the middle. The displays work absolutely fine and are easily readable during the day. But the backlight on the clock and driver side temperature are out. So at night this cant be read.

I've had a look around and seems it's not that uncommon but I cant seem to find a solution.

There's loads of info on the display of the earlier LS's. Please dont get this fault mixed up with that one. Before I take it out could someone advise me whether or not this is fixable? I seem to have picked up from elsewear that they are not just bulbs behind the displays. Can anyone confir either way? It is irritating in an otherwise excellent car.

Thanks in advance.

http://www.lexls.com/tutorials/

Enjoy :-)

[Ruud]

http://www.lexls.com/tutorials/

Enjoy :-)

I seriously doubt he can find anything there as this site is mainly based on the first generation Ls

[7149capricorn]

Hi

Me too - I have a 1998 Mkiv LS400 with exactly the same problem - and, yes, most help on the topic is for Mksi-iii. I'm probably being incredibly thick, but I can't find anything on the link to help. It's a real shame as apart from this niggle the car is stunning - anyone point me more specifically in the right direction?

Regards

John

[Ruud]

Unfortunately I don't have a DIY answer to this issue.

It might be worth enquiring here ---> http://www.bba-reman.com/catalogue/Detaile...ledProduct=1632

[ManicMark]

My right hand temp display backlight is out also, the only fault with the car, It would be nice if its an easy fix, if not I will leave it.

[mr2lad]

ive got excactly the same problem,

[ManicMark]

ive got excactly the same problem,

I see you have 2, You lucky sod I was torn between a V8 soarer & an ls400. Which do you like best

[7149capricorn]

Thanks, Ruud - I'll give them a call tomorrow.

Regards

John

[Manc]

You can still look at the mk2 console removal and use it as reference, it wont be that different, after all you are just removing parts held in with screws. Some screws are hidden in air vents etc, it can be awkward and/or frustrating at times but its not brain surgery to take them out.

If you buy a new unit just for the lights....i mean, what if the new units lights go too??

learn how to change them, if it is the bulbs they should be cheap and will also cost a sunday afternoon too.

Try http://www.toyodiy.com/parts/

This has exploded diagrams of most parts so this could include interior electrics too, its worth bookmarking anyway for future niggles.

[mr2lad]

ive got excactly the same problem,

I see you have 2, You lucky sod I was torn between a V8 soarer & an ls400. Which do you like best

prefer the LS for comfort etc and soarer is just wen i want to be a boy racer lol if i was forced to pick one to keep it would always be the LS

[Rodney]

Good choice Mr2Lad B)

Back to Designit's original post, I also have the same illumination problem with my MkIV. When someone finds a solution I am sure that it would be well received by the rest of us here.

:)

Rod

[Jon Evans]

You might have seen this from the other thread where I posted it, but I've been having a go at fixing the temperature display illumination in my Mk4 1998 LS400 today. I've put together a blog post about it.

If you want any specific photos taking then let me know, because I've got to take it all apart again when the new bulbs arrive.

[mr2lad]

good on you mate, gunna be very helpful to a few of us big THANKS to u

[Jon Evans]

The replacement bulbs have arrived, I'm planning to try them out on Saturday.

[designit]

Excellent. Waiting with great anticipation for the result

[Jon Evans]

Excellent. Waiting with great anticipation for the result

The bulbs I bought didn't work - too dim. However Maplin was able to sell me some small bulbs which worked. Product code BT43. Everything is reassembled again now, and all looks good. I can finally read the temperature displays again!

The bulbs that I took out consisted of a small black plastic base to hold the bulb, and a green rubber cap over the bulb. You pull off the cap, then snip the wires underneath the base and remove the old bulb. Then thread the wires for the new bulb into the base. The bulbs are slightly taller but the green rubber caps still fit.

Jon

[Rodney]

Yo da man Jon

I'm really jealous now

As someone who cannot take a screw out without rounding the end, I will wait until someone with better skills than me can follow your excellent instructions and allow me to pay in the time honoured fashion.

:)

Rod

[designit]

Superb. Thanks for this. I'll have a go at this during the week or next weekend.

If you could just clear one thing up for me though...... The bulbd from Maplins in your link are white and they dont seem to have green ones available. Does this change the colour of the backlight?

Many thanks again

[steve-bedford]

Jon,

A brilliant tutorial - Very well done and thank you.

My pass side one is out (middle and driver's side OK). I posted on this about 2 years ago now so I'm delighted!!

Steve

[Jon Evans]

If you could just clear one thing up for me though...... The bulbd from Maplins in your link are white and they dont seem to have green ones available. Does this change the colour of the backlight?

No, because you reuse the little green rubber cap off the old bulb. The old bulb is also clear under the cap.

By the way, I've been out to the car in the dark to check on the brightness. I'd say that the temperature displays (with new bulbs) are something like 95% the brightness of the clock display. Very slightly dimmer but you wouldn't notice unless you were looking out for it.

Jon

[designit]

Oh I see. Thanks for that

I think I'll be replacing all of them so hopefully it'll notice even less if there is a difference in brightness.

[Jon Evans]

I've completed the info on my blog with a short article about repairing the bulbs.

http://evansweb.info/2009/11/22/ls400-cent...n-repair-part-2

Jon

(edit: must do something about the crappy layout on my blog when posts contain large images)

[Dan999]

Thank god for this 15 years later so helpful. The blog posts are perfect! just waiting formy bulbs to come now.

[Malc1]

Steve2006  Mod   could you pop this into the Ls400 specifc Forum posts

Ls400 catastrophic unknowning failures section maybe ?

Thanks

Malc