Is200 Lysholm Supercharger

[Dave-Ellen]

any update on this... i am assuming that as the OP has not come back that the lysholm unit was never fitted or finshed and prolex/OP didnt see it thru to the end

No mate it will not happen, Steve is now having to sell the lysholm charger to get some of his money back for un-paid bills, it been well over 1yr now and no one has see/herd from the chap :o

Not strictly true.

I understand Steve and Tom spoke in August 2009 and the matter of the level of noise has been resolved.

[Gord]

any update on this... i am assuming that as the OP has not come back that the lysholm unit was never fitted or finshed and prolex/OP didnt see it thru to the end

No mate it will not happen, Steve is now having to sell the lysholm charger to get some of his money back for un-paid bills, it been well over 1yr now and no one has see/herd from the chap :o

Not strictly true.

I understand Steve and Tom spoke in August 2009 and the matter of the level of noise has not been resolved.

Again not true Dave :o Tom has not been in contact with Steve for over 1 year, he still has the tte supercharger kit fitted to his car (that is Steve's kit) and has not paid anything to Steve at all.

[Rob]

mmmmm so this lad has the tte kit and has just done one..... thats bad.

if u had any UK details for him then i would start small claims against him.

isnt prolex also liable somehow as they arranged the project?

[Gord]

mmmmm so this lad has the tte kit and has just done one..... thats bad.

if u had any UK details for him then i would start small claims against him.

He lives and work in France Rob, thing is most of it was done through prolex, and prolex have now sent email to charlesworth washing his hands of it all (prolex got his money of the lad mind) saying its all my fault Tom has done one ( no that he can prove any of this mind)

[Rob]

so dave organised it, the lad paid dave, dave has not paid steve 4 the work...? all depands what is meant by "thing is most of it was done through prolex"

sounds like a clear contract breach to me.. i am hoping it was all on paper!

would still send the lad a registered letter, the french ensure that a registered letter is signed for BTW!

anyway not really a place to discuss sensitive details - never know who is reading!

[Gord]

so dave organised it, the lad paid dave, dave has not paid steve 4 the work...? all depands what is meant by "thing is most of it was done through prolex"

sounds like a clear contract breach to me.. i am hoping it was all on paper!

would still send the lad a registered letter, the french ensure that a registered letter is signed for BTW!

anyway not really a place to discuss sensitive details - never know who is reading!

Yes it gets complex Rob, but if you know anyone that wants a lysholm charger let me know :D

[Gord]

so dave organised it, the lad paid dave, dave has not paid steve 4 the work...? all depands what is meant by "thing is most of it was done through prolex"

sounds like a clear contract breach to me.. i am hoping it was all on paper!

would still send the lad a registered letter, the french ensure that a registered letter is signed for BTW!

anyway not really a place to discuss sensitive details - never know who is reading!

''sounds like a clear contract breach to me''

And others mate, including Tom poo is about to hit the fan :o well tomorrow

[Dave-Ellen]

any update on this... i am assuming that as the OP has not come back that the lysholm unit was never fitted or finshed and prolex/OP didnt see it thru to the end

No mate it will not happen, Steve is now having to sell the lysholm charger to get some of his money back for un-paid bills, it been well over 1yr now and no one has see/herd from the chap :o

quick update on this saga...

I had a text exchange with Tom over the weekend.

Turns out "Tom" was in fact Gordon.

When "Toms" spelling began to look like that of a nine year old I began to wonder what was going on so started to call him on the number but got no response.

Luckily I added more detail to my text messages by emailing Tom.

I actually got a voicemail from Tom on Saturday night in which he gave me his landline number in France. I have left several messages and hope to arrange a time for him to call back to Steves to have the Lysholm charger fitted to his car as its all ready with the new airbox so should not take long to swap over.

Steve will also be calling Tom later today to try and get something sorted out.

I have just got off the phone with steve and he confirms everything is good to go.

Some of you may ask why would someone try and impersonate someone else on what is a serious matter. I'm struggling to think why and don't think any normal person would do this but hey ho.

[Rob's Lexx]

that's just confused me even more :duh:

[Bazza]

that's just confused me even more :duh:

and me !!

so...Gord is Tom ?

or... Gord was trying to impersonate Tom

and.... Gord is trying to sell Toms supercharger ???

[sparkystav]

So i am?

Are you saying Gord was Tom all along?

If so surely a quick ip check by the admins would confirm?

[Gord]

that's just confused me even more :duh:

and me !!

so...Gord is Tom ?

or... Gord was trying to impersonate Tom

and.... Gord is trying to sell Toms supercharger ???

No im not Tom and never have been I have seen Tom and so has Steve.

Yet again Dave has got things wrong, Dave has my number so any text message i would send him he would know it was me, and i have not sent any text messages to Dave on my phone trying to be Tom.

So on this note, can you please remove my name from Dave's post, and yet again im on the end of one of his child like digs about my spelling.

I have tried to call Dave lots of times to sort things out, but as you may or may not know, he don't take the calls.

Yes Gord is selling a lysholm charger for Steve, as Tom did not return to have it fitted, leaving Steve over 2k out of pocket as Tom has tte charger kit, that is Steve's, Steve has waited well over 1yr, and Tom has not been in contact with Steve, Dave also sent Steve a email washing his hands with this project some weeks ago now.

And just to keep you all to date with things with the facts, Steve still has not been in contact with Tom (as of 19.35 today) as Dave has just post, and is going to give Tom until Weds to get in contact, or he/i will be selling the parts to get back some of the money Steve has lost (over 2k)

[ibby]

iam more confused

whos Gord ?

[chrisis200]

Wow it's like I've never been away, this is still going on madness..

[Dave-Ellen]

that's just confused me even more :duh:

and me !!

so...Gord is Tom ?

or... Gord was trying to impersonate Tom

and.... Gord is trying to sell Toms supercharger ???

No im not Tom and never have been I have seen Tom and so has Steve.

Yet again Dave has got things wrong, Dave has my number so any text message i would send him he would know it was me, and i have not sent any text messages to Dave on my phone trying to be Tom.

So on this note, can you please remove my name from Dave's post, and yet again im on the end of one of his child like digs about my spelling.

I have tried to call Dave lots of times to sort things out, but as you may or may not know, he don't take the calls.

Yes Gord is selling a lysholm charger for Steve, as Tom did not return to have it fitted, leaving Steve over 2k out of pocket as Tom has tte charger kit, that is Steve's, Steve has waited well over 1yr, and Tom has not been in contact with Steve, Dave also sent Steve a email washing his hands with this project some weeks ago now.

And just to keep you all to date with things with the facts, Steve still has not been in contact with Tom (as of 19.35 today) as Dave has just post, and is going to give Tom until Weds to get in contact, or he/i will be selling the parts to get back some of the money Steve has lost (over 2k)

Not sure how you can say its not you Gordon.

Anyone can buy a sim card to put in thier normal phone.

The content and syntax of the text messages are in your style and the timing of them and how the content of the many abusive voice messages you left relates to comments made by me to "Tom's " answerphone also point to you.

The last one "Got you hook line and sinker lol" confirmed it for me. As the lol is a feature of the other abusive text messages you are in the habit of sending me on your "normal" phone.

The number used in 07596043026 if anyone wants to know. It will go to o2 voicemail.

At best this latest episode is juvenile it ties in with the abusive phone call and message you left me when you were in Germany. At 1.30 am my mobile rang and when I got to it it rang off …I turned it off…….in the morning there was a message left at 2.30 am where you here Gordon whisper "speak to the ******" there is a pause and you can hear german TV in the background then someone in a broad Scottish accent shouts "HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" that number was 0790****** and I'd wager it was Mr Mole as he was the only Scotsman on the trip to the best of my knowledge.

Lots of you seem to think of Gordon as some kind of members advocate or consumer rights champion. I see him more as a busybody and playground bully. Hopefully most people reading this will revise their opinion of him.

oh...final point I will not waste my time responding to any of your abusive phone calls so save your money in future

[Monster-Mat]

o.............k..................then

i want to see some facts to get to the bottom of this , by the time i hit the Uk, this ***** has gone on far enough.

you both know my email address

[sparkystav]

More importantly have the issues with the setup been sorted?

(intake noise, physical fitment undder the bonnet?)

[Gord]

that's just confused me even more :duh:

and me !!

so...Gord is Tom ?

or... Gord was trying to impersonate Tom

and.... Gord is trying to sell Toms supercharger ???

No im not Tom and never have been I have seen Tom and so has Steve.

Yet again Dave has got things wrong, Dave has my number so any text message i would send him he would know it was me, and i have not sent any text messages to Dave on my phone trying to be Tom.

So on this note, can you please remove my name from Dave's post, and yet again im on the end of one of his child like digs about my spelling.

I have tried to call Dave lots of times to sort things out, but as you may or may not know, he don't take the calls.

Yes Gord is selling a lysholm charger for Steve, as Tom did not return to have it fitted, leaving Steve over 2k out of pocket as Tom has tte charger kit, that is Steve's, Steve has waited well over 1yr, and Tom has not been in contact with Steve, Dave also sent Steve a email washing his hands with this project some weeks ago now.

And just to keep you all to date with things with the facts, Steve still has not been in contact with Tom (as of 19.35 today) as Dave has just post, and is going to give Tom until Weds to get in contact, or he/i will be selling the parts to get back some of the money Steve has lost (over 2k)

Not sure how you can say its not you Gordon.

Anyone can buy a sim card to put in thier normal phone.

The content and syntax of the text messages are in your style and the timing of them and how the content of the many abusive voice messages you left relates to comments made by me to "Tom's " answerphone also point to you.

The last one "Got you hook line and sinker lol" confirmed it for me. As the lol is a feature of the other abusive text messages you are in the habit of sending me on your "normal" phone.

The number used in 07596043026 if anyone wants to know. It will go to o2 voicemail.

At best this latest episode is juvenile it ties in with the abusive phone call and message you left me when you were in Germany. At 1.30 am my mobile rang and when I got to it it rang off …I turned it off…….in the morning there was a message left at 2.30 am where you here Gordon whisper "speak to the ******" there is a pause and you can hear german TV in the background then someone in a broad Scottish accent shouts "HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" that number was 07904****** and I'd wager it was Mr Mole as he was the only Scotsman on the trip to the best of my knowledge.

Lots of you seem to think of Gordon as some kind of members advocate or consumer rights champion. I see him more as a busybody and playground bully. Hopefully most people reading this will revise their opinion of him.

oh...final point I will not waste my time responding to any of your abusive phone calls so save your money in future

Your 2nd line ( Anyone can buy a sim card to put in thier normal phone ) saying it all Dave. And i have a vodafone contract phone, now i don't know about things like this but .... can i put 02 sim card in my phone and it work ? if it may need some sort of code or something, anyone that may know about these things is welcome to check my phone anytime they wish

I was calling to to talk about the things you have seen saying about Steve and myself in emails to others ........

Yes i told you to keep out of what i do or am doing, as it is nothing to do with you, as i said it was to do with emails you sent NOT TEXT

Mat if you wanting to see the emails from Dave calling Steve and myself, please forward you email address as i don't know it. THIS IS FACT IN BLACK AND WHITE.

And again, if you had a call in Germany from me then why would i not speak to you, as you keep saying that i do, and again it was not my phone number, you say you wager it was Mr Mole, what has that got to do with me ? if you think you know how it is ?

Now in fact is see Dave is selling the very same things i was selling and he called it illegal (in email i must add) when i was trying to sell them

[Gord]

o.............k..................then

i want to see some facts to get to the bottom of this , by the time i hit the Uk, this ***** has gone on far enough.

you both know my email address

Sent you pm with contact details Mat :D so in fact you can see some facts :D

[Dave-Ellen]

Lets get a few things right here....

Firstly Gordon...do you deny the message left to me ? A simple yes or no will suffice (Don't forget voicemails can be saved and you have a disticntive voice) I added the caveat about Mr Mole as you may well have found another scotsman in the bar at the ibis in frechen at 3.30 german time to call a complete stranger in england on their phone)

Regarding the text messages and who "Tom" really is I got the first one after an email to Steve asking "If there was a problem" signed Tom. I responded saying contact Steve...

Heard nothing until I posted on the forum...I had a text from "Tom" I then sent this email

fromdave ellen <*************>

tobrice1ie <brice1ie@****com>,

Steven Hill <stevecharlesworthmotorsl.co.uk>

date5 September 2009 08:15

subjectYour car

mailed-bygmail.com

hide details 5 Sep (4 days ago)

Tom,

I cant send text messages very well from where I live.

This is what Gordon posted on the limpdick forum

QUOTE=Gord;16659]I have some is200 parts for sale.

Jun light weight flywheel with uprated full helix organic clutch both new never fitted £500 the pair

1 Lysholm supercharger unit new never fitted, comes with cradle to fit is200 and pully's. £700

You would have to get all the other parts to make this fit any is200 or other car

Dont these belong to Tom ?

Unless he has agreed for Steve to sell them it may get sticky for you...you don't want the fraud squad after you as well as the inland revenue do you

anyway prison food may help you loose weight you fat ****

twas this post that started the saga...........(text messages from "Tom"

After a few text messages from "Tom" I thought something was not right. Last Saturday night I got a phone message from Tom giving me his landline number ...I got this mid morning the sunday

toprolex <*************>,

Steve At Charlesworth <stevecharlesworthmotors@h*********.co.uk>

date6 September 2009 13:47

subjectYour car Part 2? I havent got part 1 yet!!

mailed-by***l.com

hide details 6 Sep (3 days ago)

Hi guys....

Firstly I havent text you ANY messages since this all went to ***** (to be blunt).... I not even in Europe now so there is no reason as to why i would try and sort this out being sooooo far away... especially by text..

Nuff said....

Subsequently I have left 8/9 messages for Tom and Steve has also left messages (also more emails) No response was forthcoming hence the decsion to sell the kit as a whole & fitted.

There is a whole lot more I can say but I will not at this juncture.

As an aside anyone tried calling the two numbers ?

Fact is Gordon this shows you to be what you really are ................in some ways,bit extreme but hey ho, you remind me of the holocaust deniers out there who still stick to their views even though 99.999% of people refute them in the hope that some people will believe them and jopin their club

[Gord]

Yes if you read what i post ( you seem to have a problem with this) i have left you quite a few voice messages when i have tried to call you, never seem to take the call, and i have also said why i have called you, you seem to be able to say what you like on the internet about me but not over the phone or face to face, thus making you key board worrier/jockey or what ever, you also need to keep to the FACTS Dave, something you never seem to do, just coz you THINK.... YES THINK i text you don't make it FACT.

Thats just like me saying you got your wife of the internet, don't know this for a fact so i don't say it, only think it.

And if you was to ask anyone that was on the German ring trip, you just might find out who made the call, instead of blaming who you THINK it was, if it was me i would have rang you on my phone as i always DO.

I would post reply to you on your own forums, as you seem to be the only one posting :P and you don't seem to be on there much anyway, think your spending more of your time on other forums than your own :P

[sparkystav]

This is what Gordon posted on the limpdick forum

Firstly, you want to be careful what your posting in these days of legal wrangling.

Also

WHO GIVE A **** ABOUT YOUR AND GORDS ARGUMENTS.

TAKE THEM OUT TO EACH OTHER, AWAY FROM PUBLIC VIEW.

[TigerFish]

This is what Gordon posted on the limpdick forum

WHO GIVE A **** ABOUT YOUR AND GORDS ARGUMENTS.

TAKE THEM OUT TO EACH OTHER, AWAY FROM PUBLIC VIEW.

Indeed. Some people only seem to be happy when they are comparing pecker sizes in public (and that is pointed at Prolex and Gord before anyone gets confused). Grow up boys.

[Bazza]

At best this latest episode is juvenile it ties in with the abusive phone call and message you left me when you were in Germany. At 1.30 am my mobile rang and when I got to it it rang off …I turned it off…….in the morning there was a message left at 2.30 am where you here Gordon whisper "speak to the ******" there is a pause and you can hear german TV in the background then someone in a broad Scottish accent shouts "HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" that number was 0790******* and I'd wager it was Mr Mole as he was the only Scotsman on the trip to the best of my knowledge.

Lots of you seem to think of Gordon as some kind of members advocate or consumer rights champion. I see him more as a busybody and playground bully. Hopefully most people reading this will revise their opinion of him.

well well

that number is an ex member here :

who just happened to be on the Germany trip with Gord and mr Mole

[sparkystav]

At best this latest episode is juvenile it ties in with the abusive phone call and message you left me when you were in Germany. At 1.30 am my mobile rang and when I got to it it rang off …I turned it off…….in the morning there was a message left at 2.30 am where you here Gordon whisper "speak to the ******" there is a pause and you can hear german TV in the background then someone in a broad Scottish accent shouts "HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" that number was 0790****** and I'd wager it was Mr Mole as he was the only Scotsman on the trip to the best of my knowledge.

Lots of you seem to think of Gordon as some kind of members advocate or consumer rights champion. I see him more as a busybody and playground bully. Hopefully most people reading this will revise their opinion of him.

well well

that number is an ex member here :

who just happened to be on the Germany trip with Gord and mr Mole

Any need to re-inflame the argument?

esp as both Wozza and Gord are now banned?