New Diesel Engine

[simon k]

went into my dealers yesterday to get a price for 4 new tyres after only doing 17,000 miles, and was told that they are bringing out a new deisel engine in the 220d later this year, he said it has lower emmisions and better economy? has anybody else heard anything

[Rob]

last we heard toyota were stopping the d4d but not sure if this is true

[FinLex]

Sounds about right. Apart from fitting it longitudinal in the 220d, this diesel engine has been unchanged since it was introduced in Toyota Avensis almost three years ago. An update is due. One thing is for sure: Toyota is not dropping d4d! Lexus might have considered it, but Toyota can't give away that big a market segment.

[TRD1979]

Spoken to my dealer and there is no news on a new diesel engine. More then likely they will phase it out and are concentrating on hybrid. They will definitely bring out a hybrid IS so I have been told. But as far as I have been told no new diesel engine.

[simon k]

spoke to them yesterday and was told it will be out later in the year and aiming at company car users because of low c02 emmisions

[Scarlet Pimpernell]

1) About time

2) This current one was supposed to be a clean economical engine. Are they admitting it's not?

3) What ever happened to Euro5? This engine was supposed to save company car drivers a shed load...

4) Where will they put the batteries in the IS Hybrid? There certainly is hardly any boot as it is....

Bootom line is - let them tell you whatever. The proof is in the eating of the puddin'

[Northern Boys Luv Gravy]

I know Lexus have publicly stated that they aim to have a hybrid option for every model in their range by 2009 - how this squares with boot capacity in the IS I'm not sure - maybe they will look at more compact Battery technology. I was expecting the hybrid option to available in the next generation IS but since that is probably 2011ish maybe they feel they can't afford to wait that long?

I can't imagine that there is a completely new diesel engine in the pipeline - technologically the D4D engine is at least the match for the engines from BMW and Audi - where it seems to fall down is in fuel economy and CO2 output in relation to BIK company car taxation. I reckon they could quite easily tweak the engine to put out less CO2, say 20g/km or so, thus dropping it down the tax bands. Re-working the gear ratios could also produce benefits in fuel economy, maybe not to BMW levels but certainly to match the latest Audi diesel engines that seem to be sacrificing economy for power. Maybe they need to look at bringing out an IS200d with say 140-150bhp and delivering 42-44mpg - it may be what a lot of people are looking for.