Fitting Lowering Springs

Chris.S · December 30, 2007

Il post pics of mine to campare when fitted

Gord · December 31, 2007

Nice one Rob, car is coming on nice mate :D

Rob's Lexx · December 31, 2007

cheers gord. i agree, its coming on a treat. :D :D :winky:

Gord · December 31, 2007

cheers gord. i agree, its coming on a treat. :D :D :winky:

Whats next then Rob

Rob's Lexx · December 31, 2007

check my other thread matey. there's a coule of new goodies in there....

http://www.lexusownersclub.co.uk/forum/ind...43836&st=60

bit weird, but just gone to the car and the front is much much lower, the rear drivers side is much lower, but the rear passenger side is sitting a fingers width higher than the drivers side. any ideas?? will this settle itself out in time??

Gord · December 31, 2007

check my other thread matey. there's a coule of new goodies in there....
http://www.lexusownersclub.co.uk/forum/ind...43836&st=60

bit weird, but just gone to the car and the front is much much lower, the rear drivers side is much lower, but the rear passenger side is sitting a fingers width higher than the drivers side. any ideas?? will this settle itself out in time??

Give it some time/miles, then put on flat road and he another look. Also have a look to see if your springs are seated right. You did put them on Front springs to front and rear to rear ?

Rob's Lexx · December 31, 2007

check my other thread matey. there's a coule of new goodies in there....
http://www.lexusownersclub.co.uk/forum/ind...43836&st=60

bit weird, but just gone to the car and the front is much much lower, the rear drivers side is much lower, but the rear passenger side is sitting a fingers width higher than the drivers side. any ideas?? will this settle itself out in time??

Give it some time/miles, then put on flat road and he another look. Also have a look to see if your springs are seated right. You did put them on Front springs to front and rear to rear ?

Even i'm not that daft Mr Hutchinson! :lol:

Yeah, they're deffo on right. I think its just a case of them settling down.

cheers matey

Tony-Bones · December 31, 2007

If i read things correctly the coils are second hand.... If so then they have already "settled" before they were fitted so the body trim height should be uniform.

I'm not sure what procedure you used to install the coils but for what it's worth if the camber positions are changed then the car will sit off horizontal diagonally.

Also for what it's worth, Gords comments were absolutely correct if the coils were coil-overs.... I've seen this many times before.

Paul-J · December 31, 2007

Do you find the ride more comfortable than the standard springs or is the ride firmer?

The only reason I ask it because I want to get some springs fitted but the ride in my car is quite stiff at the mo, don't know if I can deal with it getting any stiffer

Rob's Lexx · December 31, 2007

the springs that were fitted were brand spanking new.

the procedure used was much the same as that in the knowledgebase section.

the shocks remained the same, just changed the springs over.

Tony-Bones · January 1, 2008

the springs that were fitted were brand spanking new.
the procedure used was much the same as that in the knowledgebase section.

the shocks remained the same, just changed the springs over.

The front trim height is a done deal despite any settling, the rear will take a few hundred miles to relax. Nevertheless the rear shouldn't be off over the axle.

I'm sure the install is correct but did you remove the lower "D" shaped camber adjuster when fitting the rears?

Gord · January 1, 2008

check my other thread matey. there's a coule of new goodies in there....
http://www.lexusownersclub.co.uk/forum/ind...43836&st=60

bit weird, but just gone to the car and the front is much much lower, the rear drivers side is much lower, but the rear passenger side is sitting a fingers width higher than the drivers side. any ideas?? will this settle itself out in time??

Give it some time/miles, then put on flat road and he another look. Also have a look to see if your springs are seated right. You did put them on Front springs to front and rear to rear ?

Even i'm not that daft Mr Hutchinson! :lol:

Yeah, they're deffo on right. I think its just a case of them settling down.

cheers matey

Two Mr Hutchinson's that post on here Rob :P :D

Rob's Lexx · January 1, 2008

the springs that were fitted were brand spanking new.
the procedure used was much the same as that in the knowledgebase section.

the shocks remained the same, just changed the springs over.

The front trim height is a done deal despite any settling, the rear will take a few hundred miles to relax. Nevertheless the rear shouldn't be off over the axle.

I'm sure the install is correct but did you remove the lower "D" shaped camber adjuster when fitting the rears?

i'm not sure tony as my mate did the rears on his own as i had to be in 2 places at once so to speak. i'll ask him though.

so do you think its worth taking it for a geometry adjustment now to get the rears level??

i'll measure the height difference later from wheel to bottom of wheel arch and post that up so you can gauge the difference i'm on about - i'd guestimate about 15 mm though!!

check my other thread matey. there's a coule of new goodies in there....
http://www.lexusownersclub.co.uk/forum/ind...43836&st=60

bit weird, but just gone to the car and the front is much much lower, the rear drivers side is much lower, but the rear passenger side is sitting a fingers width higher than the drivers side. any ideas?? will this settle itself out in time??

Give it some time/miles, then put on flat road and he another look. Also have a look to see if your springs are seated right. You did put them on Front springs to front and rear to rear ?

Even i'm not that daft Mr Hutchinson! :lol:

Yeah, they're deffo on right. I think its just a case of them settling down.

cheers matey

Two Mr Hutchinson's that post on here Rob :P :D

damn!!! I meant you though!! :P

sparkystav · January 1, 2008

Yeah a Geog setup is def worth it if youve lowered the car,

Stav

Rob's Lexx · January 1, 2008

@Stav, yea it will have a geo setup done, but was advised to leave it a while while everything settles.

I'm just unsure about this inbalance in height at the minute.

@Tony, thanks for your input mate. I measured from ground to bottom of wheel arch and these were the results:

Drivers Side Front = 25 inches

Passenger Side Front = 24.8 inches

Drivers Side Rear = 25.5 inches

Passenger Side Rear = 26.5 inches

So you can see there is an approximate difference at the rear of 1 inch.

Also, the d-shaped adjustor was not removed. I think all that was undone was the 3 bolts on the suspension in the boot, and the one that goes horrizontally through the suspemsion assembly at the bottom..........

Gord · January 1, 2008

@Stav, yea it will have a geo setup done, but was advised to leave it a while while everything settles.
I'm just unsure about this inbalance in height at the minute.

@Tony, thanks for your input mate. I measured from ground to bottom of wheel arch and these were the results:

Drivers Side Front = 25 inches

Passenger Side Front = 24.8 inches

Drivers Side Rear = 25.5 inches

Passenger Side Front Rear = 26.5 inches

So you can see there is an approximate difference at the rear of 1 inch.

Also, the d-shaped adjustor was not removed. I think all that was undone was the 3 bolts on the suspension in the boot, and the one that goes horrizontally through the suspemsion assembly at the bottom..........

jack the passenger side front rear up, take your wheel off, look to see if spring seated right, try to turn the spring to, this just might help it pop into position if its out.

aztecbandit1 · January 1, 2008

Just been out to compare the ride height on mine and had a measure just out of curiosity?

Pass front : 24.0 inches

Drive front : 24.0 inches

Pass rear : 24.0 inches

Drive rear : 24.0 inches

Give or take a couple of mm all round so sitting quite level thought the rear was lower from the look of it??

:D

Rob's Lexx · January 1, 2008

@Stav, yea it will have a geo setup done, but was advised to leave it a while while everything settles.
I'm just unsure about this inbalance in height at the minute.

@Tony, thanks for your input mate. I measured from ground to bottom of wheel arch and these were the results:

Drivers Side Front = 25 inches

Passenger Side Front = 24.8 inches

Drivers Side Rear = 25.5 inches

Passenger Side Front Rear = 26.5 inches

So you can see there is an approximate difference at the rear of 1 inch.

Also, the d-shaped adjustor was not removed. I think all that was undone was the 3 bolts on the suspension in the boot, and the one that goes horrizontally through the suspemsion assembly at the bottom..........

jack the passenger side front rear up, take your wheel off, look to see if spring seated right, try to turn the spring to, this just might help it pop into position if its out.

had a look earlier and it appears to be seated fine mate, so not sure what could be amiss. i don't know whether the rear passenger is the iffy side or the rear drivers side if you see what i mean. but i'd suspect it to be the passenger side...

will get it jacked up tomorrow evening and have a closer look

Just been out to compare the ride height on mine and had a measure just out of curiosity?
Pass front : 24.0 inches

Drive front : 24.0 inches

Pass rear : 24.0 inches

Drive rear : 24.0 inches

Give or take a couple of mm all round so sitting quite level thought the rear was lower from the look of it??

:D

sounds good that mate. yours is very low though mate. nice to see they're all behaving for u. :)

aztecbandit1 · January 1, 2008

Not sure if it a good thing or a bad thing to have it sitting so level though?? plus it gives you something to compare on the height side of things when they all settle out, even though i've got the coilovers fitted matey :D

Rob's Lexx · January 1, 2008

Not sure if it a good thing or a bad thing to have it sitting so level though?? plus it gives you something to compare on the height side of things when they all settle out, even though i've got the coilovers fitted matey :D

aye, but mine won't drop that low as the springs are -35mm i think and urs sits much lower than that.......as my driveway will prove :lol:

aztecbandit1 · January 1, 2008

Not sure if it a good thing or a bad thing to have it sitting so level though?? plus it gives you something to compare on the height side of things when they all settle out, even though i've got the coilovers fitted matey :D

aye, but mine won't drop that low as the springs are -35mm i think and urs sits much lower than that.......as my driveway will prove :lol:

at least you'll know if they do go as low as mine you'll need to dig a channel out of your drive :P :P

Tony-Bones · January 1, 2008

The problem area in my book would be the NSR @ 26.5".... Why is it so high?.... The other three wheels are relatively uniform.

Personally i really feel you need to have the Geometry measured.. I can help you with the target data and give you a live link during the calibration.

Rob's Lexx · January 1, 2008

The problem area in my book would be the NSR @ 26.5".... Why is it so high?.... The other three wheels are relatively uniform.
Personally i really feel you need to have the Geometry measured.. I can help you with the target data and give you a live link during the calibration.

my car has always been high at the rear (as are most standard IS's), but assumed this to be the standard tractor setup, lol.

the springs all look correctly seated, the camber adjusters weren't touched, so why the difference?? could i have too much +ve camber on the NSR?? would that cause it?? i would suspect the OSR is more like the correct height for a freshly lowered car, but for some reason the NSR isn't playing ball....

so would you personally advise getting it booked in ASAP at a reputable 4 wheel laser allignment place and having them set it up as per your reccomendations? as opposed to leave it a while to settle down?? by a live link, i presume you mean telephone correspondance??