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For anyone reading this thread with a similar interest in sat nav I too would recommend tom tom. I have it on my PDA orange phone and my PDA and also on my spare nokia phone. I have used "other" sat nav systems and have been let down by them at crucial times like when maps aren't as new as they should be or the system getting lost just before the only turning in miles etc. I personally don't trust any so called speed detector system and prefer to rely on my own wits or the age old guaranteed method of not speeding :D so speed camera placements aren't that big an issue for me but the updated files with these and many other POI's are readily available for free on the net if you looksee about.

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