The Budget

[Fidgits]

New cars 2001>

CO2 Emission | Band | 12 months duty

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<100 g/km | A | - £0 (down £65)

<120 g/km | B | - £40 (down £35)

<150 g/km | C | - £100 (down £5)

<165 g/km | D | - £125 (no change)

<185 g/km | E | - £150 (no change)

<225 g/km | F | - £185 (up £25)

>225 g/km | G | - £210 (new band)

For Diesel Cars:

CO2 Emission | Band | 12 months duty

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<100 g/km | A | - £0 (down £75)

<120 g/km | B | - £50 (down £35)

<150 g/km | C | - £110 (down £5)

<165 g/km | D | - £135 (no change)

<185 g/km | E | - £160 (no change)

<225 g/km | F | - £195 (up £25)

>225 g/km | G | - £210 (new band)

Older cars pre 2001

Lower Band Cars <1549cc = no change = £110

Higher Band Cars >1549cc = plus £5 = £175

However, dig a little deeper...

The IS200 has 231 and so falls into the higher band (thank goodness mine is a 2000 ;) ) and so does the new IS250!

So much for the 'top 1%' more like 10%!!!!

the RX300 is 311 g/km

but since the prius is 104 g/km, i dont see anything that fits in the 'free' section!

[Ally]

what a load of :tsktsk:

Did you hear about the constipated chancellor of the exchequer??

He couldn't budget :D

[Fidgits]

the eco friendly hybrid Rx400h is at 192 so that's 160!

[Whoosh]

However, dig a little deeper...

The IS200 has 231 and so falls into the higher band (thank goodness mine is a 2000 ;) ) and so does the new IS250!

According to the Lexus web site the Automatic IS250 Co2 figure is 214 not 231 as the manual is. Glad I have the auto as its better on fuel consumption as well.

[Rillo]

So Gordon is trying to be environmentally friendly?? What a complete moron - China is building 600 coal fired powerstations in next few years so even if all of UK drove small "clean" cars it wouldn't make the slightest dent on the CO2 coming from China.

Overall a typical Labour budget - you have car, house, pension, job and want to get on in life you are screwed. ....

[Bazza]

the new band "g" only applies to vehicles registered after 23/3/06

is £210 for petrol and £215 for diesel

group A =UP TO 100

group B =101-120

group C =121-150

group D =151-165

group E =166-185

group F =186 AND OVER

group G =225 AND OVER (AFTER 23/3/06)

by my workings out :

new is250 already registered

auto £190

manual £190

diesel £160

registered after today

auto £190

manual £210

diesel £160

BASED ON EURO 4 FIGURES

is250 auto 214 g/km

is250 man 231g/km

is250 dies 168 g/km

[LexusIS200Sam]

looks like i will have to fork out 175 instead now :tsktsk: ... my tax runs out in 9 days

[Kazi]

What a load of bull! What sodding difference does it make? You pay more road tax for higher fuel consumption cars.....why?

I must be blind as I fail to see the point! Another con brought to you by these robbing Labour b :tsktsk: s!

Yet, they insist on spending millions on sportsman! Again, why?!

[Bazza]

What a load of bull! What sodding difference does it make? You pay more road tax for higher fuel consumption cars.....why?

I must be blind as I fail to see the point! Another con brought to you by these robbing Labour b :tsktsk: s!

Yet, they insist on spending millions on sportsman! Again, why?!

its to encourage people to drive more economical and cleaner cars

which in turn will encourage manufacturers to produce lower immision cars and more economical engines

which in turn will help preserve the worlds resources

which cant be a bad thing !

[TheDon]

how nice of them to screw us a little more, add to that i have a 4x4 as well to realy rub in the new 4x4 tax!!!!

[Pip]

What a load of bull! What sodding difference does it make? You pay more road tax for higher fuel consumption cars.....why?

I must be blind as I fail to see the point! Another con brought to you by these robbing Labour b :tsktsk: s!

Yet, they insist on spending millions on sportsman! Again, why?!

its to encourage people to drive more economical and cleaner cars

which in turn will encourage manufacturers to produce lower immision cars and more economical engines

which in turn will help preserve the worlds resources

which cant be a bad thing !

Be the first to set an example and change your car for a smart or some other tosh then?

[Bazza]

how nice of them to screw us a little more, add to that i have a 4x4 as well to realy rub in the new 4x4 tax!!!!

what 4x4 tax ?

[Steve ( West Mids )]

Honda dual-fuel and Smart forfour diesel are both zero tax.

[TheDon]

i hate to be the one who settles for a case of "but they are doing it so why cant i" but i get fed up of our government penalising us to try and make a better world when the americans get to drive 7 litre cars all day etc.

I wanna be driving what i wanna drive, and not having to be responsible as nobody else does?

Its like the egg advert, for every smart thing that happens a dumb thing happens else where.

Except its a case of for every smart car sold, hundreds and thousands of other cars are sold!

how nice of them to screw us a little more, add to that i have a 4x4 as well to realy rub in the new 4x4 tax!!!!

what 4x4 tax ?

The one where having a 4x4 means that you fit into the worst catagory for emisions............ :shutit:

Apart from duel fuel jobs, nearly all 4x4 trucks etc instantly fall into the highest catagory

[Bazza]

i hate to be the one who settles for a case of "but they are doing it so why cant i" but i get fed up of our government penalising us to try and make a better world when the americans get to drive 7 litre cars all day etc.

I wanna be driving what i wanna drive, and not having to be responsible as nobody else does?

Its like the egg advert, for every smart thing that happens a dumb thing happens else where.

Except its a case of for every smart car sold, hundreds and thousands of other cars are sold!

the americans have better resources than us

they also have been hot on immisions far longer than the uk, along with higher standards

and they were using unleaded years before the uk were

perhaps if the uk goverment had woken up a bit earlier there wouldnt be such an outcry now

[Kazi]

What a load of bull! What sodding difference does it make? You pay more road tax for higher fuel consumption cars.....why?

I must be blind as I fail to see the point! Another con brought to you by these robbing Labour b :tsktsk: s!

Yet, they insist on spending millions on sportsman! Again, why?!

its to encourage people to drive more economical and cleaner cars

which in turn will encourage manufacturers to produce lower immision cars and more economical engines

which in turn will help preserve the worlds resources

which cant be a bad thing !

No offence but if the government is trying to hide behind that as an excuse then again, I think its b :tsktsk: x!

Scrap Diesels then for a start. Sort out the shambles of a dated train system, make public transport in general more economical and more reliable. Its utter garbage!

[Bazza]

What a load of bull! What sodding difference does it make? You pay more road tax for higher fuel consumption cars.....why?

I must be blind as I fail to see the point! Another con brought to you by these robbing Labour b :tsktsk: s!

Yet, they insist on spending millions on sportsman! Again, why?!

its to encourage people to drive more economical and cleaner cars

which in turn will encourage manufacturers to produce lower immision cars and more economical engines

which in turn will help preserve the worlds resources

which cant be a bad thing !

No offence but if the government is trying to hide behind that as an excuse then again, I think its b :tsktsk: x!

Scrap Diesels then for a start. Sort out the shambles of a dated train system, make public transport in general more economical and more reliable. Its utter garbage!

to be honest the public transport, certainly in london has improved considerably over the last few years, as for our train system, its the best in the world !!, anyone can run a few lines from major towns, but we have a system which covers a huge amount of the country, the trains have also improved considerably

immissions and economical methods apply to public transport as well

im not canvassing for the goverment ....honest

having 6 vehicles to tax is not easy, but you gotta face the facts :D

[Ellz]

looks like i will have to fork out 175 instead now :tsktsk: ... my tax runs out in 9 days

Mine to £170 is a bit crap i used to have a motor bike and was £60 for the year

[Pip]

What a load of bull! What sodding difference does it make? You pay more road tax for higher fuel consumption cars.....why?

I must be blind as I fail to see the point! Another con brought to you by these robbing Labour b :tsktsk: s!

Yet, they insist on spending millions on sportsman! Again, why?!

its to encourage people to drive more economical and cleaner cars

which in turn will encourage manufacturers to produce lower immision cars and more economical engines

which in turn will help preserve the worlds resources

which cant be a bad thing !

No offence but if the government is trying to hide behind that as an excuse then again, I think its b :tsktsk: x!

Scrap Diesels then for a start. Sort out the shambles of a dated train system, make public transport in general more economical and more reliable. Its utter garbage!

Touche

[MacRS200]

What a load of bull! What sodding difference does it make? You pay more road tax for higher fuel consumption cars.....why?

I must be blind as I fail to see the point! Another con brought to you by these robbing Labour b :tsktsk: s!

Yet, they insist on spending millions on sportsman! Again, why?!

its to encourage people to drive more economical and cleaner cars

which in turn will encourage manufacturers to produce lower immision cars and more economical engines

which in turn will help preserve the worlds resources

which cant be a bad thing !

No offence but if the government is trying to hide behind that as an excuse then again, I think its b :tsktsk: x!

Scrap Diesels then for a start. Sort out the shambles of a dated train system, make public transport in general more economical and more reliable. Its utter garbage!

to be honest the public transport, certainly in london has improved considerably over the last few years, as for our train system, its the best in the world !!, anyone can run a few lines from major towns, but we have a system which covers a huge amount of the country, the trains have also improved considerably

immissions and economical methods apply to public transport as well

im not canvassing for the goverment ....honest

having 6 vehicles to tax is not easy, but you gotta face the facts :D

It's got better but is overloaded.

Bloke on telly tonight pointed out that is you want to go cross country by train you can't, and he is right.

For me to get to work by train (30+ miles cross country) I have to go into London and back out again, stand on a packed train, 2 changes and 2 hours against 40mins in the car. Cost of car @ 40p/mile about £25, peak travel card to London £20 + return from London to work £10 =£30, no brainer that one.

[derekyau]

the new band "g" only applies to vehicles registered after 23/3/06

is £210 for petrol and £215 for diesel

group A =UP TO 100

group B =101-120

group C =121-150

group D =151-165

group E =166-185

group F =186 AND OVER

group G =225 AND OVER (AFTER 23/3/06)

by my workings out :

new is250 already registered

auto £190

manual £190

diesel £160

registered after today

auto £190

manual £210

diesel £160

BASED ON EURO 4 FIGURES

is250 auto 214 g/km

is250 man 231g/km

is250 dies 168 g/km

Cheers for clearing that up Bazz. Thought for a minute my road tax had shot up to £210!!! :tsktsk:

A fiver up aint toooooo bad. 2 less pints a year I guess.

D.

[Kazi]

>Bazza,

Our train system best in world? Behave. Thier ony has to be a leaf on the track and theirs panic.Not to mention the fact they are consistantly late.

[Kazi]

Why the government has chosen the pre 2001 aswell! Instead of confusing people, why didn't they just do it from the next registration date instead of back dating it? :duh:

[Fidgits]

to be honest the public transport, certainly in london has improved considerably over the last few years, as for our train system, its the best in the world !!, anyone can run a few lines from major towns, but we have a system which covers a huge amount of the country, the trains have also improved considerably

immissions and economical methods apply to public transport as well

im not canvassing for the goverment ....honest

having 6 vehicles to tax is not easy, but you gotta face the facts :D

Barrie - i spend a lot of time using public transport in other european countries...

and for you to suggest that british trains are anywhere close to French or German standards, well, its laughable!

For a direct comparison, british trains are overpriced... From my town to London - the cheapest i could possibly get is in the order of 40 quid - thats for just over an hour - if i had the audasity to turn up on the day, it would be 90 quid return (and it has been)

Germany has a wonderfully efficient train system, with very informative signs, easy to understand processes, and clean reliable trains, all for a fraction of what similar journies cost over here.

The french, well it isnt as clean, but runs on time when they dont strike, and again, is much cheaper than here...

im sorry, anyone that says we have the best public transport system in the world, hasn't left these shores and, i would suspect, has had tony visiting them every night whispering these lies into their ears while they sleep...

[sjf]

so are you guy's saying that for a 2000 model lexus (which i have) i wont have to pay £210 tax...

How comes...? not complaining though :P