Petrol

PQuist · August 24, 2005

We are hitting 95p a litre in some areas now, soon we will be faced with paying £1 a litre.

This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the "don't buy petrol on a certain day" campaign that was going around last April or May! The oil companies just laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't continue to hurt ourselves by refusing to buy petrol. It was more of an inconvenience to us than it was a problem for them.

BUT, whoever thought of this idea has come up with a plan that can really work. Please read it and join in! Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us to think that the cost of a litre is CHEAP, we need to take aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS control the marketplace not sellers. With the price of petrol going up more each day, we consumers need to take action.

The only way we are going to see the price of petrol come down is if we hit someone in the pocket by not purchasing their Petrol! And we can do that WITHOUT hurting ourselves. Here's the idea:

For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY petrol from the two biggest oil companies (which now are one), ESSO and BP. If they are not selling any petrol, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow suit. But to have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of Esso and BP petrol buyers. It's really simple to do!! Now, don't wimp out on me at this point.. keep reading and I'll explain how simple it is to reach millions of people!! I am sending this note to a lot of people. If each of you send it to at least ten more (30 x 10 = 300)... and those 300 send it to at least ten more (300 x 10 = 3,000)… and so on, by the time the message reaches the sixth generation of people, we will have reached over THREE MILLION consumers! If those three million get excited and pass this on to ten friends each, then 30 million people will have been contacted! If it goes one level further, you guessed it... THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE!!! Again, all you have to do is send this to 10 people.

That's all (and not buy at ESSO/BP). How long would all that take? If each of us sends this email out to ten more people within one day of receipt, all 300 MILLION people could conceivably be contacted within the next 8days!!! I'll bet you didn't think you and I had that much potential, did you! Acting together we can make a difference. If this makes sense to you, please pass this message on.

PLEASE HOLD OUT UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO THE 69p a LITRE RANGE

It's easy to make this happen. Just forward this email, and buy your petrol at Shell, Asda,Tesco, Sainsbury's, Morrison's Jet etc. i.e. boycott BP and Esso.

waddy · August 24, 2005

Nice idea but..............

Esso and BP are seperate companies. You've got Exxon-Mobil who own the Esso brand and also BP Amoco who own the BP brand. The problem is if you don't buy from them directly and use the supermarkets then they'll just buy off them anyway as they're only a finite number of refineries in the UK and hence only a limited amount of fuel to go round.

Also once you boycott BP and Esso, what's to stop the other companies putting up their prices as everyone's going there? It's the standard principle of supply and demand. Rather than just boycotting various fuel suppliers, you should reduce your fuel consumption and hence reduce the overall demand as a whole. One method of doing that is looking at alternative sources of energy. Even LPG isn't the answer as you're still dependant on the oil companies.

If you want lower prices, you're going to have to look why the prices are so high... taxation and demand will be a start. Boycotts will never work as it requires sacrifices on the part of the boycotters which people often are unable and unwilling.

The price of oil per barrel has risen over the past 6 years anyway (dramatically) look at the situations in the middle east (another vein to this is that US oil reserves are runnning out and Iraq has loads of oil - hmmmmmm, why did bush invade <_< - but that's another topic !)

Taxation on fuel will reduce when hell freezes over - the government make far too much money from it. There is currently a deficit every year anyway, if fuel prices drop then expect other taxes to rise.

It's a no win situation.

Sucks but doubtful it will change.

SHAHZ · August 24, 2005

Im sure this has been about before

Robin H · August 24, 2005

yeah I've heard of this but only a week or so ago from a mate of mine in the Evo OC

Not sure if it would work you would need every body to act at the same time, and with it starting in drips and drabs over the country I don't think that ESSO/BP would really notice any change in sales, cos all it means is there's less time mummy has to spend waiting to que up with a car full of screming kids on the way back from football practice covered in mud to get her petrol

it's a nice idea

I cann't really remembered what happened when they had the fuel blockade did it effect the price or did it just stay the same

cos I think that thats the only way that you would get through to the goverment

I don't know how much truth is in it but I can remember listening to something on the radio about the price of fuel that diesel was going to stay around the same price that it was at the time which I think has been true in the area that I live in

and petrol would go up but start to come back down in price towards the end of the year (fingers crossed or am I just being an optimistic muppet)

Fidgits · August 24, 2005

Im sure this has been about before

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yeah, this goes around every 6 months without fail...

and rumour has it, it was started by Shell Marketing Dept to increase sales ;)

MrADeveci · August 24, 2005

Good idea ....... but again, BP couldn't care less.

All 3 emergency services in London all use BP for fuel ...... as they accept the fuel card.

Only recently, (police) can now use any petrol station ................

However, BP is still most popularly used ...............

Straight-Six · August 24, 2005

I know BP supply Sainsbury's so i would imagine they supply other Supermarkets so your still buying petrol from them indirectly.Also most of the price of petrol is the taxation so isn't it the government that is the real problem?

Jiberjaber · August 24, 2005

Internet Chain Mail..... Ignore!

Use the following link if your that worried about fuel prices...

http://www.overdrive.co.uk/fuel_table.htm

Bartierx300 · August 24, 2005

We are hitting 95p a litre in some areas now, soon we will be faced with paying £1 a litre.
This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the "don't buy petrol on a certain day" campaign that was going around last April or May! The oil companies just laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't continue to hurt ourselves by refusing to buy petrol. It was more of an inconvenience to us than it was a problem for them.

BUT, whoever thought of this idea has come up with a plan that can really work. Please read it and join in! Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us to think that the cost of a litre is CHEAP, we need to take aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS control the marketplace not sellers. With the price of petrol going up more each day, we consumers need to take action.

The only way we are going to see the price of petrol come down is if we hit someone in the pocket by not purchasing their Petrol! And we can do that WITHOUT hurting ourselves. Here's the idea:

For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY petrol from the two biggest oil companies (which now are one), ESSO and BP. If they are not selling any petrol, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow suit. But to have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of Esso and BP petrol buyers. It's really simple to do!! Now, don't wimp out on me at this point.. keep reading and I'll explain how simple it is to reach millions of people!! I am sending this note to a lot of people. If each of you send it to at least ten more (30 x 10 = 300)... and those 300 send it to at least ten more (300 x 10 = 3,000)… and so on, by the time the message reaches the sixth generation of people, we will have reached over THREE MILLION consumers! If those three million get excited and pass this on to ten friends each, then 30 million people will have been contacted! If it goes one level further, you guessed it... THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE!!! Again, all you have to do is send this to 10 people.

That's all (and not buy at ESSO/BP). How long would all that take? If each of us sends this email out to ten more people within one day of receipt, all 300 MILLION people could conceivably be contacted within the next 8days!!! I'll bet you didn't think you and I had that much potential, did you! Acting together we can make a difference. If this makes sense to you, please pass this message on.

PLEASE HOLD OUT UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO THE 69p a LITRE RANGE

It's easy to make this happen. Just forward this email, and buy your petrol at Shell, Asda,Tesco, Sainsbury's, Morrison's Jet etc. i.e. boycott BP and Esso.

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Recieved this email about 2 weeks ago so its not a new idea, and it aint gonna work.

javadude · August 25, 2005

The problem is if you don't buy from them directly and use the supermarkets then they'll just buy off them anyway as they're only a finite number of refineries in the UK and hence only a limited amount of fuel to go round.

There's about 9 or 10 refineries. I used to work for Lindsey Oil Refinery (a shared Total and Fina one) and it provided petrol to all the petrol stations in that area of the country regardless of the name on the tanker/petrol station.

Curran · August 25, 2005

look at thie way

if a barrel of crude costs $60 and it contains 44 US gallons it works out at 36c a litre or roughly 20p a litre

so allowing them another 15 to 20 odd pence for refining it, transporting, marketing etc hopefully it would end up at the pumps at below 40 p a litre.

The delay for the fuel price change is the fact the oil companies have to keep I thought 6 weeks fuel reserves in the country and the fact the goverment demands a tax payment on it.

Its the Tax thats taking the ***** not the oil prices at all but I have heard now that the goverment makes almost as much money from fuel tax as income tax,

So unless your willing to see a doubling of income tax to make up the short fall (which you know the present goverment will never do as they have "not" increased the direct tax burden) and we are now so lucky to have cheaper car costs than ever before we should just accept it.

I understand in the next month or maybe its even happened the 2p increase in fuel tax the gordon annonced in march will be applied. come the next budget we will see another 2 p a litre

The_Gooner · August 25, 2005

I also work at a Refinery in the UK and cant see why this would work,

All refinerys in the UK supply all garages near to them. Therefore by not buying from a BP garage you wont hurt them at all as they will still be selling you the fuel you are buying from the garage down the road, the only person to be hurt by this is the company who own the garage. A BP garage is not owned by BP just uses their name.

All refinerys export abroad therefore loss of sales here will be made up by larger sales abroad.

As an Oil company the profits on petrol is not as great as you may think and the refinerys can change to produce less petrol and more other products therefore recuperating profits else where.

Also if the raw material for making a TV was to triple within 3-4 years would you expect thte price of the finished TV to be the same or greater its the same as petrol, if the raw material has gone up then what do you expect, at the end of the day if we cant make a profit on it why make it.

The price of fuel before taxation in the UK is nopw one of the cheapest to buy. the problem is not big oil companys making large profits more the government making large tax gains on commodities that we need.

Personely I would sooner pay more at the pumps and leave other things alone which they will tax to gain

At the end of the day if this country needs X ammount of pounds to run then the government will get X ammount of pounds from Joe Public one way or another, at least you can control the ammount of fuel you buy.

When you think of the process from drilling crude out transporting to refinery, refining the petrol out, blending it to a spec, getting it to the pump its not a bad price when you deduct the 70+% tax of it.

lexus boy · August 25, 2005

gooner with u 100%

just when will people realise this.

Monster-Mat · August 25, 2005

just filled up with diesel.....

£1.01 a litre.........shocking

The_Gooner · August 26, 2005

gooner with u 100%
just when will people realise this.

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I doubt people will, all most people see is the price on the pump and the high profits oil companys make, they then put 2 and 2 together and well we know the rest.

Oil companys dont control the price of oil, but one things for certain oil companys wont put fuel in the pumps for a loss,

During the last fuel strikes the government froze tax on fuel not reduced it, the price on fuel went down due to oil companys being able to lower their prices before tax due to low oil price.