Modifications Discussion

Matthew_McNally · February 4, 2005

:D gucci trim , :tsktsk: me what next burberry carpets with matching versace headlining .

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as long as its genuine versace mate, and you pay £££££££ to have it done ;)

Fargo · February 4, 2005

Show car owners - Growing breed, money + cars + imagination= FUN.
They tend to be more responsible as they dont even want a stone chip let alone rubber stuck on the car!

Money doesnt buy you class...

I am working realy hard this year to try and show the local councils and local police the differences between the none trouble making car enthusiasts and the yobs that create problems. as the problem i encounter is that they dont have any training that teaches them to differenciate. its the same with the public.

Also from personal experience i have seen the police turn a peaceful gathering into a dangerous situation from misreading the signs,

I have been in talks with bluewater management too, am trying to get them to hoast a monthly "show and shine" competition

its a wonder you get any time to actually pull off these MANY talks,

There is lots more planned this year, uhu

The pot cannot call the kettle black, we cannot criticise the corsas for wanting the loud exhausts. yes we can

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Gucci Trimmed M3's
Basicaly i do not associate with any form of Chav or kevin.

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i mebbe wrong here, but if that aint CHAV, i don't know wot is...

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Yep you said it lol

I have seen the price he paid, Carisma did the trim and it cost ££££££££.
Fake gucci is chav, real gucci is expensive and purely for show.

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again, money cant buy you class..

I feel there is space for a new magazine! might be where i am heading!

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not ANOTHER 'in talks with'

you could start up your own TV series.... 'The Don Talks With (fill inthe blank)' or 'An Audience with.....'

Rob · February 4, 2005

give it up already............. this is sooooooooooooooo far off topic its unbelievable, it u 2 want to argue the toss over petty things start a new post.

Fargo · February 4, 2005

errr thats what this post is about....and since when does one post in an enitire thread constitute as "sooooooooooooooo far off topic its unbelievable"

we could have a boring discussion, or we could have a healthy lively discussion.. i know what id rather have...

a bit of leg pulling is healthy....as you know...

luv you alllll

TheDon · February 4, 2005

Well i am starting a new company FARGO that will become very aparent as of the 12th of Feb. These talks have to take place as many companies are waking up to my ideas.

I have a full buinsiness plan and there has not been one person i have spoken to that has not taken to the idea.

I work till 2 am most mornings with all the projects that are going on as i want to hit the ground running when it all opens.

And some of you may or may not notice that i have organised for YOU a very good deal on a certain something that we supply!!!! wonder if you can guess what it is! (hint:- Leather)

I have a host of buisiness cards if you would like to view them. I have just recived my conformation of sponsorship from Vibe Audio and also have a lot of other companies.

Unless you understand the show scene where things are a bit different to normal modding then i suppose its difficult.

The gucci interior cost in excess of £6k, you may say it dont buy you class but how many of your wives would kill for a gucci handbag! and not being funny but how many of you have a "spare" M3 with which to spend £40k on mods. It may not buy you class but it certainly makes a good show car.

I have to say that im apauled by your small mindedness. It realy makes me laugh that you feel that your so better while you have been driving round with the biggest and most ultimate "chav" dream - NOS.

You may spend your time playing with wires etc but i am trying to better things for my comunity. im sorry if you cant understand. But i dont like seeing them all give us a bad name, I am in a position where i have magazine backing (fast car) to help relations with bluewater etc and also to promote more sensible driving.

If i gave everything away that i did then i would be stupid. im not gonna put full names of people i speak too as this is the internet, anyone can read it and they could call them up etc.

So im sorry if you dont understand the SOCIAL side of modding, but i do. I am involved heavily and want to make my money out of it, therefore doing deals with companies is my main objective.

woggledog · February 4, 2005

And some of you may or may not notice that i have organised for YOU a very good deal on a certain something that we supply!!!! wonder if you can guess what it is! (hint:- Leather)

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Suppliers to the porn industry? :winky:

TheDon · February 4, 2005

of course, nothing less. altho you will have to be in gold to get full benifit!

Fargo · February 4, 2005

Well i am starting a new company FARGO that will become very aparent as of the 12th of Feb. These talks have to take place as many companies are waking up to my ideas.
praise to ya

And some of you may or may not notice that i have organised for YOU a very good deal on a certain something that we supply!!!! wonder if you can guess what it is! (hint:- Leather)

fair enough, however i have found a company that already does full retrims for the IS for 400 QUID....

Unless you understand the show scene where things are a bit different to normal modding then i suppose its difficult.

oh i can fully appreciate the in and outs of the show car seen..s'all good

I have to say that im apauled by your small mindedness. It realy makes me laugh that you feel that your so better while you have been driving round with the biggest and most ultimate "chav" dream - NOS.

lmao,, when did i seriously say i was EVER better than anyone.. you wunna know why the nos was there,,, cause there aint any turbo that bolts stright on the IS300, but dont you worry your cotton socks,, the nos has gone and a s/c will be coming..

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and less you forget chris,, im not digging you out as a person,, im just digging at the sceane man....

did you tell us what your idea of a max'd car is..

jason_l · February 4, 2005

surely it doesn't matter who makes the product or what products you have!

i thought the whole point in modding is to be different from the next guy, if someone wants a full tweed re-trim then as long as they like it then what does it matter!

If everyone had the same style then we would buy the same car, in the same colour with the same extras and then mod them up all to be the same!

Most form's of modding have been seen to look 'chav' like by the general public, because they see some guy in a Nova driving like a tw@t and asume all people who modify there cars are the same!

I get called a chav at work becasue i have the HKS hiper exhaust on my car, they don't truely understand! And when i try to eplain it gets worse!!!! :shutit:

Fargo · February 4, 2005

yes, your right,, the point is if your gona mod a car,, then you gota be unique or original..

uncle_rob · February 4, 2005

well i can honestly say i dont associate with anyone who has a car like that.
The people i mix with drive nice cars like E46 M3s, ACS S3's, Gucci Trimmed M3's, Mitsubishi Evo's, Range rover Vogues on 24" chromes costing the same as a good second hand IS200, IS200's in varying states of Tune. Basicaly i do not associate with any form of Chav or kevin.

Also it sounds like your describing MAZ's car, and that was featured on the cover of max power (bar the no go part)

I fail also to see how a 400bhp M3 has all show and no go?

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Damn bro, hold up a minute. I read Max Power, im 21 yrs old, i love modified cars, i HAVE an IS200, i HAVE a 330Ci ACS, i LOVE wearing Burberry, i would be proud to see my cars in Max Power, etc etc etc, so what would you call me then? Am i a Chav? Am i someone you can be seen to be associated with? Sounds like you need to start appreciating the fact that some people don't have all the money in the world, people have different tastes, and people aren't so self-indulged in being in the right class and seen with the right people.

And by the way, think you will find that the M3 is considered by Bimmer owners as an all-go car, not just a show car, however everything BMW have done to make the new M3 so nice, weight has bn sacrificed etc, and now is slower than the E36. Agree or disagree, take a look at an e46 fanatics website.

TheDon · February 4, 2005

personaly i mucho prefer the E36 M3 to the E46. i actualy prefer all E36 bmws to the e46 lot. I feel like that was their last batch of Driver orientated cars.

As for max power, its what the magazine stands for that i hate. Burnouts etc that create the problems for everyone else. It gives bad ideas to impressionable people. I know some of the staff writers there and have seen them incite this behaviour when its not taking place!

My idea of a Maxed car -

Well i see it as more than just the car butttttt......

Neon Washer Jets

Ford Motorsport sticker on a vauhaul

HKS sticker on a nova

6 x 4" exhausts hanging out of a corsa leaving little or no back pressure

Hub cap spinners

Half assed bodykit fitted by self, painted with spraycans.

That is what i class as a max car. I go to a lot of cruises, all the shows and everything i can. Max power definately has a following. it is definately made for a wide range of people. But i still remember why i used to buy max power when i was 14 - TITS. plain and simple.

As i have grown up and seen what they are doing to the scene it makes me apreciate them less.

TheDon · February 4, 2005

still this is turning out to be a damn good discussion. heated but good. am enjoying this

lexus boy · February 4, 2005

children children

please leave the chav issue be

whether your a car modifyer, or want your car to be max'd it makes no difference

if the owner likes their car who are we to frown upon or spit at what anyone else does?

if we were all the same it would be boring,!

TheDon · February 4, 2005

my problem is not with their cars but the way in which they act and the way that act is given to all car modifers. Be they show cars, road cars, pro cars etc.

There needs to be seen to be a difference. the same way as hot-rods are not compared to restored cars. altho they are similar they are different worlds. i just want that kind of distinction within the modding scene

uncle_rob · February 4, 2005

personaly i mucho prefer the E36 M3 to the E46. i actualy prefer all E36 bmws to the e46 lot. I feel like that was their last batch of Driver orientated cars.
As for max power, its what the magazine stands for that i hate. Burnouts etc that create the problems for everyone else. It gives bad ideas to impressionable people. I know some of the staff writers there and have seen them incite this behaviour when its not taking place!

My idea of a Maxed car -

Well i see it as more than just the car butttttt......

Neon Washer Jets

Ford Motorsport sticker on a vauhaul

HKS sticker on a nova

6 x 4" exhausts hanging out of a corsa leaving little or no back pressure

Hub cap spinners

Half assed bodykit fitted by self, painted with spraycans.

That is what i class as a max car. I go to a lot of cruises, all the shows and everything i can. Max power definately has a following. it is definately made for a wide range of people. But i still remember why i used to buy max power when i was 14 - TITS. plain and simple.

As i have grown up and seen what they are doing to the scene it makes me apreciate them less.

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You seen the last couple of issues??? If my memory serves me correct, a couple of Skylines, a 350z, R 7ECH's civic type R, Chrome M3 from canada. These are not boy racer cars, these are expensive luxury vehicles. I agree Max Power has a TITS image as a teenagers Porn Mag, but beneath all that, there are some good reviews, and some damn tastey cars and i would be proud to have my cars in it.

Thing with the E36, too old now, and don't look as good modified as the newer 3 Series (X registered onwards). My next choice for BMW, forget the 3 series, and buy a 535d. Bi-turbo and bags of Torque!!!

Fargo · February 4, 2005

personaly i mucho prefer the E36 M3 to the E46. i actualy prefer all E36 bmws to the e46 lot. I feel like that was their last batch of Driver orientated cars.
Cant say i know the difference to be honest

But i still remember why i used to buy max power when i was 14 - TITS. plain and simple.

As i have grown up and seen what they are doing to the scene it makes me apreciate them less ,, you still talking about TITS...(sorry couldnt resist)

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still this is turning out to be a damn good discussion. heated but good. am enjoying this
exactly,, we can all raise our voices, and i hope after we can all still shake hands..

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TheDon · February 4, 2005

i aint lost any love for anyone here, its just a discussion.

Either way, if you ask anyone who is not into the modding world to name something from it - 9/10 will say Maxpower.

I think that it does promote the wrong image tho.

jason_l · February 4, 2005

my problem is not with their cars but the way in which they act and the way that act is given to all car modifers. Be they show cars, road cars, pro cars etc.
There needs to be seen to be a difference. the same way as hot-rods are not compared to restored cars. altho they are similar they are different worlds. i just want that kind of distinction within the modding scene

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This is what im trying to get at! Some people that act like tw@t's in their cars and so all of us get stereotyped! now im all up for going sideways now and then on clear roads, but its the people that always drive like crap 100% of the time that are giving us all a bad name!

janey · February 4, 2005

I have a host of buisiness cards if you would like to view them. I have just recived my conformation of sponsorship from Vibe Audio and also have a lot of other companies.
I have to say that im apauled by your small mindedness. It realy makes me laugh that you feel that your so better while you have been driving round with the biggest and most ultimate "chav" dream - NOS.

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Is this the company who are sponsoring you Chris ???? :)

VIBE Audio or "Vented Innovative Bass Enclosures", are a manufacturer of pre-fabricated boxes . Specializing in Bass enhancement and Bass enclosure design.

(Amongst other audio products too)

Aren't big bass boxes a (sorry to all) 'Chav' dream too????

Fargo · February 4, 2005

I have a host of buisiness cards if you would like to view them. I have just recived my conformation of sponsorship from Vibe Audio and also have a lot of other companies.

I have to say that im apauled by your small mindedness. It realy makes me laugh that you feel that your so better while you have been driving round with the biggest and most ultimate "chav" dream - NOS.

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Is this the company who are sponsoring you Chris ???? :)

VIBE Audio or "Vented Innovative Bass Enclosures", are a manufacturer of pre-fabricated boxes . Specializing in Bass enhancement and Bass enclosure design.

(Amongst other audio products too)

Aren't big bass boxes a (sorry to all) 'Chav' dream too????

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this is true,, what say you chrissy..

chib1177 · February 4, 2005

Damn thats a good question Janey :winky:

anyway im saying nowt :shutit: the only mods I have so far is a chrome front grille and a brolly holder attached to my boot liner

Bazza · February 4, 2005

Well i am starting a new company FARGO that will become very aparent as of the 12th of Feb. These talks have to take place as many companies are waking up to my ideas.
what will this company do then ??

I have a full buinsiness plan and there has not been one person i have spoken to that has not taken to the idea.

I work till 2 am most mornings with all the projects that are going on as i want to hit the ground running when it all opens.

so...whats it going to be doing ?

And some of you may or may not notice that i have organised for YOU a very good deal on a certain something that we supply!!!! wonder if you can guess what it is! (hint:- Leather)

i guess you are talking re-trims, no need to be shy !

I have a host of buisiness cards if you would like to view them. I have just recived my conformation of sponsorship from Vibe Audio and also have a lot of other companies.

would love to view them, perhaps we can do a "show me yours and i will show you mine" evening

well done on your sponsership,

and you also have a lot of other companies, ? so what are they sponsering then?

Unless you understand the show scene where things are a bit different to normal modding then i suppose its difficult.

is there that much to understand ?

unless its a concours event, then surely it comes under the same criteria as normal modding, which of course would involve the best and worst cases of modding,

The gucci interior cost in excess of £6k, you may say it dont buy you class but how many of your wives would kill for a gucci handbag! and not being funny but how many of you have a "spare" M3 with which to spend £40k on mods. It may not buy you class but it certainly makes a good show car.

gucci nah , she prefers prada

really , so if you gold plated a whole car it would look good !!

its not about throwing money at a car, its about carrying out tasteful modifications, and having a respect for the vehicle in question

see money cant buy you class, it cant even buy you taste

I have to say that im apauled by your small mindedness. It realy makes me laugh that you feel that your so better while you have been driving round with the biggest and most ultimate "chav" dream - NOS.

difference in pauls nos and the chavs nos, is that pauls works !

a dream is what it is to most,

You may spend your time playing with wires etc but i am trying to better things for my comunity. im sorry if you cant understand. But i dont like seeing them all give us a bad name, I am in a position where i have magazine backing (fast car) to help relations with bluewater etc and also to promote more sensible driving.

your community, ........which are who exactly ?

bluewater, is that not the typical max power meet ?

If i gave everything away that i did then i would be stupid. im not gonna put full names of people i speak too as this is the internet, anyone can read it and they could call them up etc.

erm....still dont know what you are doing, so why would i want to call them up?

yes its the internet, so wouldnt take much to find out who they were !

So im sorry if you dont understand the SOCIAL side of modding, but i do. I am involved heavily and want to make my money out of it, therefore doing deals with companies is my main objective.

sounds like a great plan, making money out of the social side of modding

so how about some examples of what you do, unless of course you would like it to remain hidden from all our eyes, this SOCIAL thing of yours

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