What kind of tyres do you run + ever look at a Cayenne?

[Werewolf1976]

Random I know.  Thinking of putting on Michelin Primacy 4 XLs on the GS250 as they are on sale for 540 fitted for 4 (anywhere I can do better?)

Also eyeing a replacement for the wife who always wanted a Cayenne - looking at a used Porsche Cayenne Diesel Euro 6 - wondering if anybody had a view here?

Something like this

Thanks in advance!

[Linas.P]

58 minutes ago, Werewolf1976 said:

Random I know.  Thinking of putting on Michelin Primacy 4 XLs on the GS250 as they are on sale for 540 fitted for 4 (anywhere I can do better?)

Also eyeing a replacement for the wife who always wanted a Cayenne - looking at a used Porsche Cayenne Diesel Euro 6 - wondering if anybody had a view here?

Something like this

Thanks in advance!

Any premium tyres are generally within top ~5% of the tyres you can buy, so Primacy 4 are completely adequate tyre and £540 seems like good deal with fitting. The cheapest I can find them are like £130, but that is not fitted and £148 fitted.

For GS250, I would probably consider All Season tyres, I have been historically critical about All Season tyres, but only if people mistakenly thinks about them as "winter tyres", as sort of Summer tyre + wet and mucky autumn (which is basically 11 Months in UK), they work well. Generally I would prioritise wet grip above all else in UK and most of All Seasons are rated A for wet. Primacy 4 are also rated A for wet, so that is good. Top 4 tyres from All Season are Michelin CC2 > Goodyear Asymmetric All Seasons > Bridgestone Turanza All Season 6 > and best of the best Pirelli Cinturato All Season SF3.

If you don't want all season tyres then Primacy 4 is certainly good choice, few other options in similar category (touring) would be Bridgestone Turanza 6 and also Goodyear EffcientGrip Performance2, Actually Pirelli Cinturato P7 (but you need to make sure they are C2) are also good. Continentals are good, but they are generally good more in UHP category. 

For 250 I would avoid so called UHP tyres as they are just compromise that adds no benefit. I had Michelin PS4 on the car and despite being great tyres they are just too much, and you starting to have issues in cold etc. 

As for Porsche - unreliable... that is as much as I can say, maintenance will be a shocks comparing to Lexus, because having Lexus people get used to just doing regular service and nothing else. On Porsche you will spend £1000 minimum every year and all sorts of stupid sensors and failed parts. Finally, why have Porsche if it's diesel SUV? Just get Touareg of same year (it is literally the same car), or get 911. Alt least spending that amount of money on 911 can be justified by pleasure driving it. 

[Normski]

I ran a 2011 Cayenne diesel to around 140k miles. Was by FAR the most reliable and cheapest car i've ever run. Consumables like tyres etc were no more expensive than other premium cars and at times were in fact a little cheaper (due to shared items across the Porsche/VW/Audi group). Servicing was on par with Lexus costs. Dealers, like Lexus, varied from shocking to absolutely brilliant.

Overall cost of buying, running and the selling at the end considering retained value was amazing.

The car itself really got under your skin - the drive was spot on.

Things to watch out for:

1. They can vary on spec though as so much is optional but I noted that the cost of the car doesn't vary much if buying used. Do not over pay for options.
2. Talking of options - check carefully. And then again. Things like dimming mirrors and xenons/LEDs were optional! 
3. DO NOT stick to the set service times (ie long life). Get things done every 12months/10k miles regardless. Like other brands keep on top of maintenance and you'll be fine.
4. Unless you're doing the miles get the petrol variety, particularly the generation from about 2017.

If you need any in depth info just shout up.

[Linas.P]

I guess depends on how old it is, mileage and service history. Most reliable and cheapest car ever really doesn't belong in the same sentence with Porsche. However, I guess this needs to be adjusted with expectation - if one goes into Porsche ownership expecting it to be money sink and in few years of ownership the car does not bankrupt them, then they may feel like the experience was great. Basically if you going into ownership expecting absolute worst, then it may (although unlikely) surprise you and actually not going to cost that much.

The only thing I would agree with - unless really doing many miles, go for petrol. 

[Phil xxkr]

2 hours ago, Werewolf1976 said:

Random I know.  Thinking of putting on Michelin Primacy 4 XLs on the GS250 as they are on sale for 540 fitted for 4 (anywhere I can do better?)

Also eyeing a replacement for the wife who always wanted a Cayenne - looking at a used Porsche Cayenne Diesel Euro 6 - wondering if anybody had a view here?

Something like this

Thanks in advance!

Costco have Michelin tyres 👍

[Werewolf1976]

Thanks!  Normski, any options I should absolutely avoid on a used Cayenne - air suspension, pano-sunroof - anything really, really fail-prone?

[Normski]

2 hours ago, Werewolf1976 said:

Thanks!  Normski, any options I should absolutely avoid on a used Cayenne - air suspension, pano-sunroof - anything really, really fail-prone?

Like just about all manufacturers try to avoid the air suspension. It's not necessarily more prone to failure it's just that they all cost big money WHEN things go wrong. So you either budget accordingly or roll the dice...

Pano roof never caused me grief but I must have only opened it a handful of times during my ownership. Again, check for seals/dampness in the cabin.

Standard headlights (non-xenon/LED) are shocking. I remember seeing many that had some really poor quality aftermarket options fitted. So if you see those avoid as they could cause grief on the circuits/error messages.

A friend had the burmester sound system on his and the amp went. It's a super rare option as it cost £3/4k when new. So when he tried to get it repaired he spent ages looking for someone that knew how to repair.

Another failure prone item - wheels. Or rather after market/cheap copies. Avoid. Stick to OEM only.

Connected to the wheels - a few folk I know reported suspension components failing. I reckon it was the over sized / wrong wheels/tyre setup they ran.

The only scary item that I read about when I had mines was where the transfercase failed. Some folk got lucky and had Porsche to pick up the bill but others were left with a few K to spend.

Unfortunately depending on the age of the car you may find many that have been abused, run on a shoestring, poor parts used, or shall we say owned by wrong 'uns. 

[Normski]

Forgot to say. Mine was the 4.2 diesel. EPIC car that I miss terribly. Check on the following video to give you a feel of things 

You Tube - Autocar

[Werewolf1976]

20 hours ago, Linas.P said:

Any premium tyres are generally within top ~5% of the tyres you can buy, so Primacy 4 are completely adequate tyre and £540 seems like good deal with fitting. The cheapest I can find them are like £130, but that is not fitted and £148 fitted.

For GS250, I would probably consider All Season tyres, I have been historically critical about All Season tyres, but only if people mistakenly thinks about them as "winter tyres", as sort of Summer tyre + wet and mucky autumn (which is basically 11 Months in UK), they work well. Generally I would prioritise wet grip above all else in UK and most of All Seasons are rated A for wet. Primacy 4 are also rated A for wet, so that is good. Top 4 tyres from All Season are Michelin CC2 > Goodyear Asymmetric All Seasons > Bridgestone Turanza All Season 6 > and best of the best Pirelli Cinturato All Season SF3.

If you don't want all season tyres then Primacy 4 is certainly good choice, few other options in similar category (touring) would be Bridgestone Turanza 6 and also Goodyear EffcientGrip Performance2, Actually Pirelli Cinturato P7 (but you need to make sure they are C2) are also good. Continentals are good, but they are generally good more in UHP category. 

For 250 I would avoid so called UHP tyres as they are just compromise that adds no benefit. I had Michelin PS4 on the car and despite being great tyres they are just too much, and you starting to have issues in cold etc. 

As for Porsche - unreliable... that is as much as I can say, maintenance will be a shocks comparing to Lexus, because having Lexus people get used to just doing regular service and nothing else. On Porsche you will spend £1000 minimum every year and all sorts of stupid sensors and failed parts. Finally, why have Porsche if it's diesel SUV? Just get Touareg of same year (it is literally the same car), or get 911. Alt least spending that amount of money on 911 can be justified by pleasure driving it. 

Thanks  - we get very limited A/S tyre choices here. Link to the best tire ever...available in the US only though

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Michelin&tireModel=Pilot+Sport+All+Season+4&partnum=345YR8PSAS4XL&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes

 

[Linas.P]

5 hours ago, Werewolf1976 said:

Thanks  - we get very limited A/S tyre choices here. Link to the best tire ever...available in the US only though

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Michelin&tireModel=Pilot+Sport+All+Season+4&partnum=345YR8PSAS4XL&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes

 

Yes - I think they even have PS5 AS as well now.

[RONNIE W HODGEKINSON]

On 11/1/2024 at 12:59 PM, Werewolf1976 said:

Random I know.  Thinking of putting on Michelin Primacy 4 XLs on the GS250 as they are on sale for 540 fitted for 4 (anywhere I can do better?)

Also eyeing a replacement for the wife who always wanted a Cayenne - looking at a used Porsche Cayenne Diesel Euro 6 - wondering if anybody had a view here?

Something like this

Thanks in advance!

Those Were The Tyres i was going to Recommend..!!!