Rear toe in/out adjustment

[DJT]

Hi seem to have a lot of toe in on rear axle. Have taken photo of what I believe is toe adjustment for rear. This looking down from top on OSR. Could anyone confirm this for me 

Thanks

David

[BigBoomer]

What are you comparing it to? Difficult to see with only half of the hub visible and the camera at an unknown angle.
You need a decent reference plane or 2 to be able to set the alignment.
That is why the laser systems are so good. Light travels in VERY straight lines in air.

If you think it's out, take it to an alignment specialist and get it checked/adjusted.
At some places the check is free.

[Supafly]

As above, if you don't have the ability to check and confirm yourself, how are you going to be certain it is back within spec after adjusting(which can be a huge can of worms in itself with seized bolts etc.).   

If it is out then the next question is why, could be down to worn bushes or a number of other causes.

Best to take it to somewhere that can check and advise what the root cause is, and hopefully have enough experience to deal with any difficult bolts along the way too.

[DJT]

Hi thanks for replies. I have bought new toe in/out adjusters arms from hard racing. Very nice bit of kit. Removing arms on NSR was a piece of cake. Took an hour from getting car jacked to replacing wheel. OSR rear was the complete opposite. Had 3 ball joint splitters to chose from. As the ball joints are deep two would not work. Had to go the brutal old fashioned way. Ball joint wedge and lump hammer. Still could not split it as I ran out of gap between forks. So went off to buy a propane burner to heat up ball joint housing to help remove it. It removed ball joint and steel insert for aluminium housing 🙄🫣. Separating ball joint from steel insert was a 💩💩💩 of job. Getting insert back in was just as bad. Managed to destroy old ball joint now in all its separate parts no sign of wear in ball joint after 320k miles. Lexus knew how to build longevity into the LS430. As for toe in/out I have done a rough measurement using a tape measure. Gone from 9 o'clock on NSR to 3 o'clock OSR on front of rim. Reversed for rear of rim. Divide the difference by 2 which gives the amount to alter each side. LS430 has very slight toe out at rear. So have set it as close to parallel as possible. Need to to find a 4 wheel tracking place to set it it perfectly. This could be 100 miles down the road so need it as close as possible without upsetting handling and scrubbing tyres on inside edge. 

[DJT]

Forgot say I had sprayed ball joints and bolt on arm with penetrating oil daily for a week to make job easier. 

[DJT]

After a test drive today LS430 feels so much better on the road. Still need to get toe in/out professionally adjusted. 

[Malc1]

9 minutes ago, DJT said:

After a test drive today LS430 feels so much better on the road. Still need to get toe in/out professionally adjusted. 

At 300k+ miles she’s doing very well by you 👍

Malc 

[DJT]

Hi finally got 4 wheel alignment done. Rear needed more toe out I was out by 2 degrees 🫣. Front need more toe in again out by 2 degrees. Yes she feels a lot better. Very planted on the rear. Drive back from alignment was impressive no slowing for bends. Just turn steering wheel and go around bend. I didn't get pushed to either side of car during cornering. After putting in some petrol after alignment I got 32.8mpg on trip meter. This was on a 20 mile drive. Hopefully longer drives should see me closer to 35-36 mpg. 

[Malc1]

Wishful thinking with that sort of mpg 🤣

Malc 

[DJT]

Seen 34mpg on drives to Edinburgh from Wick 

[steve2006]

I remember driving to a major power incident in Wick, got to Edinburgh and thought the Sat Nav was faulty when it said still 250 miles to go!
Seem to remember a pub there called the Black Stairs?

[DJT]

Steve 2006 not sure if pub it's still under same name but black stairs is part of the original Wick. Also black stairs was the subject of a painting by LS Lowry. Can you remember the drive north of Inverness where the roads start to get "interesting" 😆.

[Malc1]

There was a channel 5 tv prog tonight  about the old Queen Mum and her wonderful Castle Mey …… I’ve been there a few times over the years on amazing Scotland driving holidays …….. and nearly called in there on an Ambassador cruise but sadly diverted to Inverness ? was it ? due to terrible seas ……. one day I’ll see your 300K+miles Ls430 🤞

Malc 

[RONNIE W HODGEKINSON]

On 9/20/2024 at 4:33 AM, Supafly said:

As above, if you don't have the ability to check and confirm yourself, how are you going to be certain it is back within spec after adjusting(which can be a huge can of worms in itself with seized bolts etc.).   

If it is out then the next question is why, could be down to worn bushes or a number of other causes.

Best to take it to somewhere that can check and advise what the root cause is, and hopefully have enough experience to deal with any difficult bolts along the way too.

Easy Answer To Why The Toe Out/In Is Out " SPEEDBUMPS"...........Thats It..!!

[RONNIE W HODGEKINSON]

On 9/20/2024 at 4:33 AM, Supafly said:

As above, if you don't have the ability to check and confirm yourself, how are you going to be certain it is back within spec after adjusting(which can be a huge can of worms in itself with seized bolts etc.).   

If it is out then the next question is why, could be down to worn bushes or a number of other causes.

Best to take it to somewhere that can check and advise what the root cause is, and hopefully have enough experience to deal with any difficult bolts along the way too.

SPEEDBUMPS..!!!!

[DJT]

We don't have speed bunps, we've got craters with bits of tarmac around them. No I don't drive fast just roll into craters and crawl out slowly. Best bit is every built up area is now 20mph. If only we could go that fast 🤣. A9 is only decent bit of tarmac for miles. 

[DJT]

Malc you will see my LS430 on day. Someone sent me a message about a jap fest gathering of all types of Japanese cars. Only issue is it's in south of England so need to book some holiday and hotel. 

[Malc1]

Whereabouts and when ? 
Malc 

[DJT]

Malc need to do an internet search. 

[DJT]

Winter arrived Sunday evening/night. Had an inch of snow fall over night. At 5am Monday morning I was busy chipping frozen snow off car. No roads gritted until 7am at earliest. Had new Dunlop all season tyres fitted to new alloys. They work extremely well. Fresh snow slush and black ice proved to no issues. Never engaged snow mode and traction control never kicked in. Last week fitted some made to measure "rubber" floor mats from car mats 4 u. Look good and will protect carpet from the worse of winter weather